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I dunno, I've had some good stuff that was just hand labeled but it also wasn't from an online source acting as "business"

You made the point already.

As far as I'm concerned trying to sell this as it is, on a public forum says a lot about the individuals pushing it and it's not a positive.
 
You made the point already.

As far as I'm concerned trying to sell this as it is, on a public forum says a lot about the individuals pushing it and it's not a positive.
Not really sure where I made that "point" before

But if fancy labels are what makes gear good in your opinion, you're not difficult to please
 
Not really sure where I made that "point" before

But if fancy labels are what makes gear good in your opinion, you're not difficult to please

getting some vials from a buddy of a buddy that brews with some chicken scratch writing on it is one thing and bad enough on its own.

If you think selling it on a open forum in that state is fine then youre easier to please then me.
I'll choose an Innovagen over this any day just based on looks.

plus it wasn't just the labels, lack of certain products and not mentioning orals also is ground for suspicion.

Lab reeks of "its good enough" mentality.
 
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getting some vials from a buddy of a buddy that brews with some chicken scratch writing on it is one thing and bad enough on its own.

If you think selling it on a open forum in that state is fine then your easier to please then me.

plus it wasn't just the labels, lack of certain products and not mentioning or also is ground for suspicion.

In my first post I said it also wasn't in a "business" aspect when I did that.

I'm not ordering from him, so I could not careless if they come hologrammed in a box or written on with a sharpie.

He's just a relabeled source from before
 
In my first post I said it also wasn't in a "business" aspect when I did that.

I'm not ordering from him, so I could not careless if they come hologrammed in a box or written on with a sharpie.

He's just a relabeled source from before
Not sure why you are convinced we are a relabeled source but everyone is entitled to their own opinion sir. In due time everyone will come to see we are exactly as advertised, a new source looking to prove ourselves.
 
The method you use sterlize glassware and vials is not up to standards in my book. I use a different method that includes about 3 more steps. It includes anti-bacterial soap, 91%ipa, distilled water and not letting the glassware sit for it to dry. Letting it sit in open air can be subjective for airborne contaminants IMO. 450* heat for 1hr is the minimum. The parcels need attention to detail. Hopefully the label is not hand written

And no I don't source but I do get high off my own supply :)

I don't suggest using antibacterial soap on any lab glassware. Soap leaves a residue behind. A mild cleaning detergent or one specially made for lab glassware is best. These don't leave residues after rinsing.

I also don't suggest using 91% IPA on rubber stoppers. Alcohol works by disrupting the hydrophobic forces that hold the membrane walls together. This process takes a little time so if you use 91% it evaporates quicker and allows some of the bacteria to create a defense for it. If you just dunk the stopper in quickly and take it out it evaporates too quick. I you leave it submerged too long then the alcohol will start to deteriorate the rubber. 71% is better bc it's more hypotonic or holds more water. The alcohol is enough to cause the membrane walls to become brittle and then the hypotonicity from the water allows the cell to burst from the water going in.

The best method available to us is steam sterilization with an autoclave or pressure cooker and/or gamma radiation. Failing that or in a pinch, I'd use 70% IPA and let it soak for about 15min and then dry it off in the oven at around 180-200deg F.

450deg F for 1hr is fine for glassware and vials. I do 500deg F for a little more than an hour just bc you never know what temp your oven truly is and there are hot spots and cold spots within the oven.
 
I am all for new labs promoting themselves. I am willing to give anyone a try if there's good reason. But come on man, there is minimal effort in this and that's the worrisome part. at least try.
 
Gotta say i agree. Lots of guys have arm tats if you're trying to prove this "identifiable markings" thing. So what's a quad shot going to prove?

And do you expect your chef to be fat? Do you ask for a belly shot before you eat their food? Just because they make the stuff doesn't mean they partake in it or even lift. It's just a silly way to ask for provenance..
I thought the bicep thing was to make sure it wasn't hammer.
 
You're not offering 50% off yet? Give us a reason to take a chance with you? Even at that, you're not proven so it will take a level of insanity to inject an unknown substance into our muscle.
 
@Apex labs you should of known that you need to come correct right out of the gate, testing, pics,etc... UGL's are a dime a dozen.
Why should we risk using you?

Thank you for not believing the people saying we are hammer. But, as stated before we are not affiliated with any source on any board. I simply did my research and came correct as possible prior to jumping in the lions den.

Just putting this out there....
 
You're not offering 50% off yet? Give us a reason to take a chance with you? Even at that, you're not proven so it will take a level of insanity to inject an unknown substance into our muscle.

I will offer 50% off for the first two meso members to place an order. Shipping will be free as well. !
 
It doesn't matter how anyone plays this. No startup ugl is going to send out shit gear to the first few members (unless they don't know what they're doing)

They want that money and orders coming in before production gets sloppy and under dosed lol.
 
It doesn't matter how anyone plays this. No startup ugl is going to send out shit gear to the first few members (unless they don't know what they're doing)

They want that money and orders coming in before production gets sloppy and under dosed lol.

This is one thing that we take quite seriously. Why under dose product when keeping the product on point will keep much more business coming? I am not perfect, but I also am not a thief or a liar. Our product will be the same quality today, tomorrow, and so on.
 
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