Experienced DNP USERS

[gotgrowth]

***FLAMERS KEEP OUT***.
***experience only please ****

I've done tons and tons of research on dnp and decided that I will be going 14-20 days off 250mg crystalline dnp from a very reputable source . (Have all the support sups as well) Will only bump it up if sides on 250 are almost non existent after a full 7days.

Will start the run first week of JAN :

Pre "run" diet :
Low carb. 100-150(only around workouts )

Planned run during:
up carbs to 200-250 all from fruits and lower fats.

MY PLAN AFTER THE RUN IS TO IMMEDIATELY JUMP INTO A LONG LEAN BULK /RECOMP CYCLE


My question to you is HOW Did YOU diet after your dnp run to get the fat loss to STICK IN ORDER FOR YOU TO STAY LEANER ON YOUR BULK

any info is appreciated




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[tenpoundsleft]

***FLAMERS KEEP OUT***.
***experience only please ****

I've done tons and tons of research on dnp and decided that I will be going 14-20 days off 250mg crystalline dnp from a very reputable source . (Have all the support sups as well) Will only bump it up if sides on 250 are almost non existent after a full 7days.

Will start the run first week of JAN :

Pre "run" diet :
Low carb. 100-150(only around workouts )

Planned run during:
up carbs to 200-250 all from fruits and lower fats.

MY PLAN AFTER THE RUN IS TO IMMEDIATELY JUMP INTO A LONG LEAN BULK /RECOMP CYCLE


My question to you is HOW Did YOU diet after your dnp run to get the fat loss to STICK IN ORDER FOR YOU TO STAY LEANER ON YOUR BULK

any info is appreciated


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Which supplements have you decided on?

I'm doing something similar, but not sure if I'll start in Jan or Feb

 

[gotgrowth]

Ala vit e, vit c, green tea / grapseed blend/ magnesium, v8 , electrolyte tabs , might throw in NAC. ETC

Main staples :
Multi
Fish oil
Biotin
Zinc
Liv52
InJ GLUTATHIONE

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[SauceBoss]

that dnp shit scares the hell out of me

 

[gotgrowth]

that dnp shit scares the hell out of me

If you trust your source and know exactly what you have you have to be an idiot to do it wrong just don't take more then you should


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[Yomane]

I never noticed any rebound fat loss from my 1.5 week run with DNP, but I ran test while I took it. I definitely increased my carb intake drastically after stopping. Gained back 6 of the 10 pounds I lost within 2 weeks but I was still just as lean.

 

[ironwill1951]

if you had done tons and tons of research on proper diet and cardio you would not need dnp..

***FLAMERS KEEP OUT***.
***experience only please ****

I've done tons and tons of research on dnp and decided that I will be going 14-20 days off 250mg crystalline dnp from a very reputable source . (Have all the support sups as well) Will only bump it up if sides on 250 are almost non existent after a full 7days.

Will start the run first week of JAN :

Pre "run" diet :
Low carb. 100-150(only around workouts )

Planned run during:
up carbs to 200-250 all from fruits and lower fats.

MY PLAN AFTER THE RUN IS TO IMMEDIATELY JUMP INTO A LONG LEAN BULK /RECOMP CYCLE


My question to you is HOW Did YOU diet after your dnp run to get the fat loss to STICK IN ORDER FOR YOU TO STAY LEANER ON YOUR BULK

any info is appreciated




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[JayWaWa]

if you had done tons and tons of research on proper diet and cardio you would not need dnp..

Thats patently bullshit.
Some people prefer DNP plus a good diet and cardio over those two alone.

Its a matter of preference.

Frankly the shit works like a miracle...and some people enjoy working miracles.

 

[JayWaWa]

***FLAMERS KEEP OUT***.
***experience only please ****

I've done tons and tons of research on dnp and decided that I will be going 14-20 days off 250mg crystalline dnp from a very reputable source . (Have all the support sups as well) Will only bump it up if sides on 250 are almost non existent after a full 7days.

Will start the run first week of JAN :

Pre "run" diet :
Low carb. 100-150(only around workouts )

Planned run during:
up carbs to 200-250 all from fruits and lower fats.

MY PLAN AFTER THE RUN IS TO IMMEDIATELY JUMP INTO A LONG LEAN BULK /RECOMP CYCLE


My question to you is HOW Did YOU diet after your dnp run to get the fat loss to STICK IN ORDER FOR YOU TO STAY LEANER ON YOUR BULK

any info is appreciated




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Dose at 1.5mg DNP per pound of bodyweight for max fat loss to minimal energy loss.

I recommend this for max burn while on DNP:
Diet while on roughly 50-60% cal from carbs mix of complex and fruits(no processed cereals/sugars i.e even most "whole grain" granolas are overly processed)
30-40% cal from protein and ~10% cal from fat.

For max burn directly after get fat-adapted:
Ketosis. Start with exogenous ketone doses day 1-2 and then go high high fat high protein diet(Do some googling in this area, plenty of great info out there) As long as you maintain ketosis and don't eat too much over you BMR needs you'll stay shrrrrrrredded.

hope this helps.

Jay

 

[ironwill1951]

its always nice to have an expert tell us how to properly introduce banned pesticides to out diet.

 

[tenpoundsleft]

its always nice to have an expert tell us how to properly introduce banned pesticides to out diet.

FFS, give it a rest. Heard of Warfarin? It's in pretty much any blood thinner (anticoagulant) prescribed today - invented by the Germans about 100 years ago (technically, during WWII) to kill rodents. Look for Coumadin (among many names) on the label, it's actually Warfarin.

Oh, and DNP is not banned, it's used in industry. Buy it from Sigma-Aldrich today!
http://www.sigmaaldrich.com/catalog/product/aldrich/d198501?lang=en&region=US (2,4-Dinitrophenol moistened with water, ≥98.0% | Sigma-Aldrich)

And I don't even think it's illegal for anyone to possess, as long as it's not in pills or capsules that is. The whole "human consumption" racket.

 

[fodsod]

I typically use DNP to kick off contest diet or cutting cycles so I'm already running low carbs (60-80 a day all complex around training time), moderate good fats and high protein.

I really don't change anything before. during or after. Just avoid binge eating, drink a lot of water and carry on with your diet plans and training. Let it do it's thing. You'll hold some water during the usage and it'll peel off about a week or so after you come off of it.

Honestly, it's not that big of a deal and definitely not something to build your routine around. Just another tool on the belt to improve your physique.

 

[tenpoundsleft]

I typically use DNP to kick off contest diet or cutting cycles so I'm already running low carbs (60-80 a day all complex around training time), moderate good fats and high protein.

I really don't change anything before. during or after. Just avoid binge eating, drink a lot of water and carry on with your diet plans and training. Let it do it's thing. You'll hold some water during the usage and it'll peel off about a week or so after you come off of it.

Honestly, it's not that big of a deal and definitely not something to build your routine around. Just another tool on the belt to improve your physique.

Good post

So you don't take any supplements that are uniquely tied to DNP then.

How about AAS use, not that DNP is catabolic, just to ensure decent energy levels in the gym and outside, any recommendations there?

 

[fodsod]

Good post

So you don't take any supplements that are uniquely tied to DNP then.

How about AAS use, not that DNP is catabolic, just to ensure decent energy levels in the gym and outside, any recommendations there?

I don't bother with a bunch of extra supps either. I'm already running the stuff I think is important so I've never added anything extra during DNP use but that's just me.

My diet is already solid year round so very little changes there other than dropping carbs and I don't usually do cardio at all especially at the beginning of a cut. If it happens it'll be later in the process but I try to stay fairly lean all year round (9-12% bf tops) thanks to GH, solid diet and hard training so it's just not needed. Now for the average guy I'd say the more activity you can get in while on DNP the better.

AAS usage is minimal for the most part during the time on (10-14 days). Again, I'm typically starting a cut so I've transitioned from my bulking drugs to a cruising dose of Test while doing the DNP and immediately into my cutting drugs once it's cleared my system (I usually wait a week after I've come off then start my cutting drugs in full).

That's just how I do it and I've never had any issues at all in any category (health issues, muscle loss, ect..)

 

[tenpoundsleft]

FFS, give it a rest. Heard of Warfarin? It's in pretty much any blood thinner (anticoagulant) prescribed today - invented by the Germans about 100 years ago (technically, during WWII) to kill rodents. Look for Coumadin (among many names) on the label, it's actually Warfarin.

Oh, and DNP is not banned, it's used in industry. Buy it from Sigma-Aldrich today!
http://www.sigmaaldrich.com/catalog/product/aldrich/d198501?lang=en&region=US (2,4-Dinitrophenol moistened with water, ≥98.0% | Sigma-Aldrich)

And I don't even think it's illegal for anyone to possess, as long as it's not in pills or capsules that is. The whole "human consumption" racket.

I should have added that dialing in the right Warfarin dosage for those who need it is notoriously difficult, with over 50% of patients either having too much or too little. This in turn can cause the clots that were supposedly prevented or bleeding if too much. Some studies show that there is a correlation with traffic accidents too.

No such thing as harmless, and no need to dismiss anything as a pesticide. I bet that the active ingredient in several pesticides have perfectly good medical uses in humans, except in different doses - toxicity is always in the dosage.

 

[ironwill1951]

you are plain and simply fucked up.... what to hell does a medical doctor dialing in
warfarin dosages have to do with DNP ?

I should have added that dialing in the right Warfarin dosage for those who need it is notoriously difficult, with over 50% of patients either having too much or too little. This in turn can cause the clots that were supposedly prevented or bleeding if too much. Some studies show that there is a correlation with traffic accidents too.

No such thing as harmless, and no need to dismiss anything as a pesticide. I bet that the active ingredient in several pesticides have perfectly good medical uses in humans, except in different doses - toxicity is always in the dosage.

 

[tenpoundsleft]

you are plain and simply fucked up.... what to hell does a medical doctor dialing in
warfarin dosages have to do with DNP ?

You're the one that brought up pesticides..... so I added an example of another pesticide, that is widely used in medicine. Relevant. You on the other hand have failed to do anything other than fume and foment. <sigh>

You're clearly unaware of the LD50, ED50, TD50 concepts in pharmacology - look them up. Those are part of the dialling in challenge, compounds with overly narrow ratios are problematic - and that's apparently the underlying reason for why DNP was delisted (banned if you will) by the FDA after being approved for several years in the 30s. The cumulative effect and the close range between ED50 and LD50 is too narrow for Joe Schmo to deal with - clearly there are many on this board that have no problems managing their intake adequately.

Reference seemingly harmless everyday OTC meds like Tylenol and other acetaminophen NSAIDS that have extremely close ranges between therapeutic and irreversible harm doses. Insulin is another example of a commonly available OTC medication that can be quite lethal - and the list of course goes on, and on.

Back to Warfarin, this is hard to dial in accurately as different people respond quite differently (it's not just about body weight, age, gender) - by comparison, an informed user of DNP appears to be able to dial in a correct DNP dose much easier.

Since some of us try to get better informed, why don't you take your whining elsewhere, we know what you think of DNP already. Have a good day.

 

[ironwill1951]

warfarin is commonly used in the medical community and has saved many may lives, tell me how many lives dnp has saved ? in fact tell me of one. your comparison of these two compounds is one of the stupidest things I have ever heard.
have you read any of the posts these 19 yr olds have put on here and the stupid shit they do ? you telling these kids that dnp is safe is irresponsible, they do what they read on here and a stupid lazy fat ass like you telling them how great dnp it is doesn't help.

 

[JayWaWa]

warfarin is commonly used in the medical community and has saved many may lives, tell me how many lives dnp has saved ? in fact tell me of one. your comparison of these two compounds is one of the stupidest things I have ever heard.
have you read any of the posts these 19 yr olds have put on here and the stupid shit they do ? you telling these kids that dnp is safe is irresponsible, they do what they read on here and a stupid lazy fat ass like you telling them how great dnp it is doesn't help.

I couldnt disagree more.
Telling them DNP will kill them is the problem.
Its just like with recreational drugs...you tell a kid that all drugs are terrible and they will become junkies or die the first time they use them...and guess what? They inevitably know someone who has done them and didnt die or isnt a worthless junkie etc.

Much the same is true with DNP. They will know someone who got competition shredded on DNP and T3 and tell you that their boy is not only not dead but in better conditioning than you. They will discount EVERYTHING you say from that point out. You want to reach these 19 y/o newbs...then dont bullshit them!

Telling people the truth is whats important. The truth is rarely an extreme but a balance of wisdom that navigates and lays out the benefits and risks of something. DNP is no different. If someone takes responsible mg/lb they will not die. If they take an irresponsible mg/lb the risk of death is possible and even defined in the literature on it.

Having a no DNP approach is your choice. But castigating everyone else who advocates low dose usage is really fucking annoying and youre just making yourself look like an ass.

 

[tenpoundsleft]

warfarin is commonly used in the medical community and has saved many may lives, tell me how many lives dnp has saved ? in fact tell me of one. your comparison of these two compounds is one of the stupidest things I have ever heard.
have you read any of the posts these 19 yr olds have put on here and the stupid shit they do ? you telling these kids that dnp is safe is irresponsible, they do what they read on here and a stupid lazy fat ass like you telling them how great dnp it is doesn't help.

You truly fail even elementary school reading comprehension....

Where did I say DNP is safe? Whatever "safe" might be... I've repeatedly stated the various issues btw dosage levels (e.g. ED50, TD50, LD50) and individual sensitivity. The comparisons I made with other substances that are widely used, yet balance precariously btw therapeutic and detrimental dosages are clearly wasted on you.

You keep dragging any attempt at dialog down into the gutter of ignorance. Stay there if you wish, fool.