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@Achilles26 how come in first picture it looks like there's still chunks of the gh puck and in 2nd it looks completely dissolved.
edit nevermind it just looks like glare not chunks of gh
 
Spooby said:
What do you plan on doing to find out what it is? Are just waiting on Frank?
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They emailed me back and said their people were looking at the pictures and to hold on to the vial. They'll tell me what to do with it once they finish looking at the pictures.
 
Spooby said:
Maybe it isn't bacteria... you said you called them and verified that nothing in their bac water could've reacted to GH? Maybe they don't know, maybe they've never gotten a call from a steroid/peptide user regarding this... the only way to find out what it is would be to have a lab that specializes in fungus/mold/bacteria etc... put it under the microscope and figure out what's in it. Does simec even take opened vials? Just to see what it is?
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I don't want to stick my nose in where a bunch of WKM's are trying to figure something out. But as far as it being something biological. The fastest known rate of cell division is just under 10 minutes. It belongs to Pseudomonas natriegens you find it in salt water. So with the time frame that he gave. It just seems impossible for anything grow that fast. Especially since he put it in the fridge. Cold generally slows biological processes down. So it seems it would most likely be an inorganic foreign body. How it got there, who knows.
 
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Brand new vial I just opened...Notice the stopper on the right(Pcom NPP) is indented in the middle...it's like a bowl shape...Thoughts?
 
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Brand new vial I just opened...Notice the stopper on the right(Pcom NPP) is indented in the middle...it's like a bowl shape...Thoughts?
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Different brand of stoppers. No need to worry.

@Achilles26. When I look at the vial laying upside down on the table, why does it look like I can see the table through the stopper?


@Spooby
Have you used gh or peptides before? Certain peptides last longer in different carrier water. It should be known the for gh and most other peptides bac water is the preferred method, not sterile water. The only exception I know of currently is Igflr3 which is not optimal with bac water, but a different kind of solution.

Therefore it is not like voiding the warranty.
 
mghoward74 said:
Different brand of stoppers. No need to worry.

@Achilles26. When I look at the vial laying upside down on the table, why does it look like I can see the table through the stopper?


@Spooby
Have you used gh or peptides before? Certain peptides last longer in different carrier water. It should be known the for gh and most other peptides bac water is the preferred method, not sterile water. The only exception I know of currently is Igflr3 which is not optimal with bac water, but a different kind of solution.

Therefore it is not like voiding the warranty.
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The only thing I've ever done is reconstitute HCG. I feel like peptides are a waste of money for what you get out of them when i can spend less money on a tren cycle and gain far more.

And yes, it is a bit similar to voiding a warranty when you don't mix what the manufacturer tells you to mix. It isn't their water he mixed the gh with, so pcom might go "well, you did not use our product to reconstitute, therefore we cannot verify if the water you used was actually bac water" etc... I could see that being an issue itself. The right way to go about this would be for sure to replace the vial, and anything else they do besides that would look good on them. I would like to see the vial tested in a lab. The problem with that however, is that we don't know if the buyer did it purposely, we don't know if pcom screwed up, we don't know if the BAC water used was bad, therefore unless a third party with no affiliation to either pcom nor achilles gets a hold of it and tests it and shares the results, we are only going by word of mouth. Either party could send the vial for testing, yet the fact that we don't know who's at fault here, it's a 50/50 guess so to speak, the test would be biased and the possibility of the results being in favor of the one who sent it off for testing is extremely high. I don't really see a bulletproof way out of this one yet
 
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I doubt they'd ship out a separate vial... It would almost be pointless with the shipping costs etc. However, it would be good to figure out what it is. As Frank said it could be from their raws provider, which could result in more problems in the future.

I don't care if I get 1 vial for free... I just had 20 land the other day
 
Yeah if that thing was in the powder sent from the raw supplier, that would be a very bad situation! But I don't think there's any way of proving that... this shit is complicated since its all illegal and the business/manufacturing aspects of the operation are across the ocean.
 
Spooby said:
The only thing I've ever done is reconstitute HCG. I feel like peptides are a waste of money for what you get out of them when i can spend less money on a tren cycle and gain far more.

And yes, it is a bit similar to voiding a warranty when you don't mix what the manufacturer tells you to mix. It isn't their water he mixed the gh with, so pcom might go "well, you did not use our product to reconstitute, therefore we cannot verify if the water you used was actually bac water" etc... I could see that being an issue itself. The right way to go about this would be for sure to replace the vial, and anything else they do besides that would look good on them. I would like to see the vial tested in a lab. The problem with that however, is that we don't know if the buyer did it purposely, we don't know if pcom screwed up, we don't know if the BAC water used was bad, therefore unless a third party with no affiliation to either pcom nor achilles gets a hold of it and tests it and shares the results, we are only going by word of mouth. Either party could send the vial for testing, yet the fact that we don't know who's at fault here, it's a 50/50 guess so to speak, the test would be biased and the possibility of the results being in favor of the one who sent it off for testing is extremely high. I don't really see a bulletproof way out of this one yet
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We can go into a whole other debate about peptides and how they're benefical...lol.

Are you reconstitution hcg with sterile water? I hope not due to the fact sterile water is only good for a few days after mixing. Otherwise, you probably not getting the best from your hcg. There's practically no way you use 1 or 2 vials of hcg on a 10-12 week cycle with sterile water without it going bad. Using bac water...you're fine.

It's like using whole milk for hot chocolate vs. hot water. The instructions say use hot water, but we all know hot milk makes it taste better.
 
@mghoward74 you know, that picture does look like you can either see the table, or there is something there that resembles that look.

Does anyone think the skewed labels would have anything to do with this, if they are even skewed? I have a vial from them with a label not so straight. Not saying I had gear quality issues either. Just looking at all concerns and trying to compare with actual vials I have on hand.
 
Bumping this so its not forgotten


Big_paul said:
No not at all. I'm not not a source. You can look high and low, and you will never find one member past or present who I have sold gear to. I'm old fashioned, I only source in gyms.
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Big_paul said:
Correction. There are 2 members but they haven't been active for years and they train in the gyms I train in. 100% honesty here:)
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Big_paul said:
I'm admitting that I source in gyms, my gear doesn't have shit floating in it and never crashes. But Dema, you see, I like being a member and once you source on meso, can never be a member again. I grew mary jane for 30 years too. It's a job. Apples and oranges.

You get started looking for the members that I sold gear to.
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Achilles26 said:
I doubt they'd ship out a separate vial... It would almost be pointless with the shipping costs etc. However, it would be good to figure out what it is. As Frank said it could be from their raws provider, which could result in more problems in the future.

I don't care if I get 1 vial for free... I just had 20 land the other day
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You should care. There could be an issue with quality assurance. You're putting this stuff in your body.

Again..could you answer the question on why I can see the table through the stopper on the vial.

Thank you
 
No, I use BAC water. It's always supplied with mine from where I obtain it. And yes I understand peptides and their benefits. I shouldn't say ALL are a waste of money, but I don't have much money, and I'd prefer to use tren when I want my body to release excessive igf
 
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