Fertilizer Club, LLC

[mands]

@jano quit blaming these members for everyone not liking you. It's the way you are behaving which kills your credibility. I don't pretend to know enough about the testing to formulate an opinion if you are credible or not. But the way you are acting and responding makes the decision for me and most other members. If you are legit and as smart as you act then take the high road and prove yourself through your character and testing. I for one wish there were more competition among the testing options.

He can't take the high road. He has a mind of a criminal and sociopath.

mands

I don't have to try to insult your intelligence, you've failed to understand basic logic before. You also make a false slippery slope assumption (you can google that, or I can show you some examples of what it is, in case it doesn't help). You are also using "appeal to motive" but that's a bit irrelevant. I just like to point out fallacies.

I don't have to try to insult your memory either, you having missed me admitting that the whole thing was a mistake and apologizing. You were in that thread as well.

Also, if you'd take a reading class and a few hours to go through this thread (and I'm being generous), you might notice that it's not the intelligence I have issue with with @mands. It's the sheer hypocrisy and the morality of it that I'm pointing out.

Why do you feel the need to post here, when your brain is not capable of realizing those simple things?


If you are interested I'll gladly continue on the above topic with you elsewhere, feel free to PM me. I might even help with suggesting some basic reading comprehension materials.


Don't dilute the thread, please, I'm waiting for @mands to answer the questions. He will try to postpone or ignore it as much as possible and is hoping for others to come and dilute the thread with so much bullshit that it will get lost. He is quite reliant on others, like you, coming to his aid in discussions.

The questions you ask don't mean anything. No member here cares what you think or cares for me to answer your elementary questions. I've established myself here and for the community.

You on the other hand have proven yourself childish and a liar.

mands

 

[janoshik]

He can't take the high road. He has a mind of a criminal and sociopath.

mands

I did take the high road more times than you can probably count, but feel free to spread malicious bs. Stooping lower and lower with every post.

Also nice to see you've done a psychiatric evaluation of me. Are you going to claim you are a doctor too, like JIM does? It would certainly help you establish yourself better in the community, lol.

The questions you ask don't mean anything. No member here cares what you think or cares for me to answer your elementary questions. I've established myself here and for the community.

You on the other hand have proven yourself childish and a liar.

mands

You are proving further and further that you are a liar and a little bitch @mands.

A lot of members here care what I have to say, don't delude yourself and don't refer to the community in an argument. Can't you literally answer questions without wanting somebody to back you up?

Are you taking the high road by spreading vile lies?
Is that the adult thing that you've been taught to do?

You are liar @mands, your friend JIM is a liar and you two have screwed up every project you've done so far. Good job on establishing yourselves.

 

[janoshik]

Hey don't be upset that I have called you out for what you are...

A liar, thief, drug addict, incompetent and now just added to the list a little whiny bitch that can't use common sense to answer some worthless questions that have zero bearing on your position as a lair.

What a petty little lying bitch you are.

Would your mother be proud of you that you stoop so low to demean somebody who is a liar according to you that you become a liar as well?

I left the incompetent unbolded because I like the irony being called incompetent from one of two guys who conducted and defended the AAA tests

Good job. Keep up the great work contributing to the community and over charging for your questionable services. I know what you charge some of these suppliers in private and it's ridiculous. Keep gouging them and they will go elsewhere soon.

Cheers liar.

mands

I am making all the tests I can public, even for my non-paying customers. You should check it out - www.janoshik.com/tests - lotsa people like it!

I am charging just the right amount. Or can you calculate the costs of running such a business? No you can't, because you are clueless a not quite the sharpest knife in the drawer.

60 euro for raws, 80 oils and pills, 120 SARMs, 150 peptides and 290 euro for HGH, 400 euro for extended HGH tests. Those are my most common samples. The prices are the same for LONG time, years for raws and oils, 2 years for HGH. Bulk discounts for many many samples.

Please, share what I charge some of these suppliers. NAME THEM. CALL THEM IN. I charge everybody the same.

I charge PM.com, Anasci, POTG, TP, Fertilizer company everybody the same.

So c'mon you lying piece of trash. Who am overcharging in private?

Stand by your words like the man you pretend to be. Name them. Call them in. I have immaculate accounting. Blockchain is public.

C'mon!




Don't worry @mands, you acting like a bitch and avoiding questions makes more and more members realize you lack the balls you pretend to have. They see.


Oh... And you keep missing those questions that are incredibly easy to answer, and yet you write walls of text. Really makes one wonder if cognitive dissonance is really that strong with you.

 

[Wunderpus]

Thank you, I appreciate that.

Also, please, notice that @mands above says that I am a thief and drug addict.

That makes him a liar as well.

He is also claiming that I overcharge people and can't support his statement (because it's another malicious and vile lie) and is deliberately avoiding questions.

If it was not a lie, wouldn't it be the easiest thing in the world to name the lab/person whom I've overcharged?

What do you think about that?

I try to decipher through the personal BS and look for the actual truths, and be AS objective as I possibly can, even when it comes to matters like Dr. Jim. IME he has always been kind, knowledgeable and has seemed like a solid guy. Now, do i KNOW that he's an MD? No... I'd hope he wouldn't lie, but like I said, I haven't seen any real evidence to support he is or is not a doctor. As far as the issue about overcharging, I don't remember ever seeing that, as so much of those threads are FILLED with pages and pages of unrelated banter... Obviously I know nothing about whether or not you're a drug user/addict, nor do I really care, honestly. It doesn't in anyway alter my opinion of you, based on what you choose to do with your body.

 

[mands]

You are proving further and further that you are a liar and a little bitch @mands.

A lot of members here care what I have to say, don't delude yourself and don't refer to the community in an argument. Can't you literally answer questions without wanting somebody to back you up?

Are you taking the high road by spreading vile lies?
Is that the adult thing that you've been taught to do?

You are liar @mands, your friend JIM is a liar and you two have screwed up every project you've done so far.

I hope you didn't lose much sleep over this little man. Maybe bring your girlfriend on here to tell us that awesome story about customs calling you and she had to take my gh back to customs. lol

When are you going to write in black and white for all members at meso and PM that you lied and fabricated some idiotic story for over a year about testing my gh.

You had everyone eating that story over at PM didn't you. Hell you had me believing it for 2 seconds.

How's the new place? You still running from LE or have you taken care of that problem with your move?

Wow posting every 2-3 min about me. I think you have a crush.

Edit: What do you want to know about @Dr JIM? Do we agree on everything? No of course not. I'm not a robot nor is he. We actually have our own opinions. But, we have a mutual respect and agree on what we are doing here at meso.

mands

 

[janoshik]

I try to decipher through the personal BS and look for the actual truths, and be AS objective as I possibly can, even when it comes to matters like Dr. Jim. IME he has always been kind, knowledgeable and has seemed like a solid guy. Now, do i KNOW that he's an MD? No... I'd hope he wouldn't lie, but like I said, I haven't seen any real evidence to support he is or is not a doctor. As far as the issue about overcharging, I don't remember ever seeing that, as so much of those threads are FILLED with pages and pages of unrelated banter... Obviously I know nothing about whether or not you're a drug user/addict, nor do I really care, honestly. It doesn't in anyway alter my opinion of you, based on what you choose to do with your body.

Thank you. I have mentioned the MD only because it the most obvious and biggest one.

You've mostly avoided the question regarding mands, but thank you nevertheless, I really appreciate sober answers. Have a nice day.

 

[Wunderpus]

Also, please, notice that @mands above says that I am a thief and drug addict.

That makes him a liar as well.

If this is what you're referring to, I didn't remember to reply, it wasn't on purpose. So, here's my answer:

Mands, like myself, you and every one else has the right to say whatever they want, and such statements come with their own consequences. Mands genuinely believes he has the evidence to support you are a thief (in the sense of not testing products you were paid to do, I believe). It's hard for me to judge him for that, as he genuinely see all the evidence he needs to form that opinion, and it doesn't appear to just be formed out of dislike towards you.... As far as the drug user stuff, again, I don't know anything about it. Is there evidence out there to support you're a drug addict? If yes, then, he's not wrong in saying it. If no, it's probably speculative, I really don't know? I've never touched on that subject between you guys as I know nothing about it.

 

[janoshik]

I hope you didn't lose much sleep over this little man. Maybe bring your girlfriend on here to tell us that awesome story about customs calling you and she had to take my gh back to customs. lol

When are you going to write in black and white for all members at meso and PM that you lied and fabricated some idiotic story for over a year about testing my gh.

You had everyone eating that story over at PM didn't you. Hell you had me believing it for 2 seconds.

How's the new place? You still running from LE or have you taken care of that problem with your move?

Wow posting every 2-3 min about me. I think you have a crush.

Edit: What do you want to know about @Dr JIM? Do we agree on everything? No of course not. I'm not a robot nor is he. We actually have our own opinions. But, we have a mutual respect and agree on what we are doing here at meso.

mands

Certainly not. Broke up with that one, but I can send a postcard to yours, though

I have not moved, I've moved my business, you are getting out of touch, old man.

Post the evidence I'm thief, drug addict and that I'm overcharging people.

Post it now or you will appear as a lying POS. How is that better than what you are trying to make of me?

 

[janoshik]

If this is what you're referring to, I didn't remember to reply, it wasn't on purpose. So, here's my answer:

Mands, like myself, you and every one else has the right to say whatever they want, and such statements come with their own consequences. Mands genuinely believes he has the evidence to support you are a thief (in the sense of not testing products you were paid to do, I believe). It's hard for me to judge him for that, as he genuinely see all the evidence he needs to form that opinion, and it doesn't appear to just be formed out of dislike towards you.... As far as the drug user stuff, again, I don't know anything about it. Is there evidence out there to support you're a drug addict? If yes, then, he's not wrong in saying it. If no, it's probably speculative, I really don't know? I've never touched on that subject between you guys as I know nothing about it.

Thank you, I genuinely appreciate that.

Mands had never paid a single dime to me for anything, therefore I have asked him to share the evidence that I am a thief. If he has none, he is a liar. There is no evidence of me being a drug addict because I'm not a one and there are people on this board who know me for years and can disprove that easily and @mands knows that.

Therefore, he is a provable liar.

 

[Kracken]

Don't dilute the thread, please, I'm waiting for @mands to answer the questions.

If he does answer (and I see lots more on this pising match) that would be diluting the thread. This whole discussion has diluted the thread. There is one relevant post mixed in somewhere but people will have to dig for it. I'm hoping that poster follows up with his final results.

 

[brutus79]

I am not aware of blaming anybody for that.

I called them retarded - why would I expect them to like me?
Please, stop putting words in my mouth.

I'm talking about particular first thread I've posted in here ever, UK GENTECH LABS

@Dr JIM, @CensoredBoardsSuck and @brutus79 acted like retards and I called them out on it. Simply put, Dr JIM knows jack shit about science, he's a google scholar and mentally disadvantaged. I'd also like to point out the sheer stupidity of CBS here - UK GENTECH LABS

Oh, by the way according to them I'm GETM JIM spread lies about me since DAY 1 I've appeared here, before I did literally anything, but call him out on his bullshit. (Did mands call him out on being a liar? Somebody who is trying to appear as if he had a high moral ground should point out lies indiscriminately, what do you think? )

I made the efford to dig that up, so you know what I'm referring to, because you've been respectful with your post and I thank you for that.



Also, you've misunderstood my goal over here. I am not here to make business, I am here to show what the so called local 'prominent' members around here really are.

Liars and frauds.


And now that it's very apparent even to public that @mands is on the same level, I'd like to show the public as well. Petty little liar and lacking any balls to speak of.


If you are interested I'll gladly continue on the above topic with you elsewhere, feel free to PM me.


Don't dilute the thread, please, I'm waiting for @mands to answer the questions. He will try to postpone or ignore it as much as possible and is hoping for others to come and dilute the thread with so much bullshit that it will get lost. He is quite reliant on others coming to his aid in discussions. Like the strong independent man he is.


PS: I don't think anybody is really doubting my testing abilities and knowledge. There is literally nobody on the board who can compete in the knowledge with me and Analyzer.

You test drugs for internet drug dealers. You are scum. Your entire family should be put through a woodchipper- and that would be a mercy, because they wouldn't have to live to see the day they learned what a fucking loser you are... a black market "scientist" who trots around on fucking web forums talking about how smart and important he is because he is a fucking failure in real life. Picture me being excited when the feds finally pull your card... and sad for all the people you snitch on because you are scared of prison. Pick any country- I could dig an African child out of a dumpster and explain to him what you do for a living and what you are so proud of and he would laugh in your face. You are nothing and you are nobody. I haven't posted in a year because I have a real life- couldn't help but wipe my ass with some self proclaimed genius who is just a forum troll who lives between bouts of finger fucking his mother.

Die slow,
Brutus.

 

[janoshik]

You test drugs for internet drug dealers. You are scum. Your entire family should be put through a woodchipper- and that would be a mercy, because they wouldn't have to live to see the day they learned what a fucking loser you are... a black market "scientist" who trots around on fucking web forums talking about how smart and important he is because he is a fucking failure in real life. Picture me being excited when the feds finally pull your card... and sad for all the people you snitch on because you are scared of prison. Pick any country- I could dig an African child out of a dumpster and explain to him what you do for a living and what you are so proud of and he would laugh in your face. You are nothing and you are nobody. I haven't posted in a year because I have a real life- couldn't help but wipe my ass with some self proclaimed genius who is just a forum troll who lives between bouts of finger fucking his mother.

Die slow,
Brutus.

ur mum.

tried my best to respond on the same level as you are.

 

[ickyrica]

You test drugs for internet drug dealers. You are scum. Your entire family should be put through a woodchipper- and that would be a mercy, because they wouldn't have to live to see the day they learned what a fucking loser you are... a black market "scientist" who trots around on fucking web forums talking about how smart and important he is because he is a fucking failure in real life. Picture me being excited when the feds finally pull your card... and sad for all the people you snitch on because you are scared of prison. Pick any country- I could dig an African child out of a dumpster and explain to him what you do for a living and what you are so proud of and he would laugh in your face. You are nothing and you are nobody. I haven't posted in a year because I have a real life- couldn't help but wipe my ass with some self proclaimed genius who is just a forum troll who lives between bouts of finger fucking his mother.

Die slow,
Brutus.

wow dude, just wow.

ur mum.

tried my best to respond on the same level as you are.

it's hard to respond to someone like him, isn't it? He is the guy that will take a trip over to your hometown and pay you a visit. Well, that's what I get out of reading his posts anyway.

This is a giant shit show @jano. One thing I wouldn't want if I was you is to keep kicking a hornets nest and relive history. If I remember correctly you lied about testing a members gear? Isn't that the epicenter of all the distrust?

 

[janoshik]

wow dude, just wow.

it's hard to respond to someone like him, isn't it? He is the guy that will take a trip over to your hometown and pay you a visit. Well, that's what I get out of reading his posts anyway.

This is a giant shit show @jano. One thing I wouldn't want if I was you is to keep kicking a hornets nest and relive history. If I remember correctly you lied about testing a members gear? Isn't that the epicenter of all the distrust?

It's the easiest thing in the world to respond to internet tough guys, just takes a little experience.

It is a giant shitshow and you are correct on both accounts.

I'm not reviving history, I'm pointing out that @mands is a liar and a hypocrite.

 

[AnTabolic73]

Also, you've misunderstood my goal over here. I am not here to make business, I am here to show what the so called local 'prominent' members around here really are.

This is the general consensus across most boards. It's common knowledge, I love meso, but I know not to trust everything I read here.

has always been kind,

KIND!! Now that's funny. I won't argue with the knowledgeable comment, but kind?

 

[mands]

Thank you, I genuinely appreciate that.

Mands had never paid a single dime to me for anything, therefore I have asked him to share the evidence that I am a thief. If he has none, he is a liar. There is no evidence of me being a drug addict because I'm not a one and there are people on this board who know me for years and can disprove that easily and @mands knows that.

Therefore, he is a provable liar.

I paid international shipping on those kits to be tested didn't I? I was promised testing and you lied about it. Made some fake story to make you look reputable and it only made you look like a fool to anyone with half a brain.

There is no Hypocrisy going on here except on your end. I know your type and I know what you are about. You are mentally unstable and can't control your anger.

Get it together dude. Like I said make a thread admitting to all(make sure you tag all your buddies and customers) that you lied to me and to all the community.

mands

 

[ickyrica]

It's the easiest thing in the world to respond to internet tough guys, just takes a little experience.

It is a giant shitshow and you are correct on both accounts.

I'm not reviving history, I'm pointing out that @mands is a liar and a hypocrite.

Be careful who you classify as an internet tough guy. Some people have a bigger reach than you'd care to admit. That's not something that needs to be learned the hard way. A member from France had a rude awakening from another member in the states near the end of 2016, all without leaving his house. The globe is much smaller than we think sometimes.

It's hard to care what you say about @mands. Basically, to about 99.9% of Meso it doesn't matter. I am in that group. He has in no way shown any signs of being anything other than what he should be; a member with other members interest at hand. If he thinks you are an addict I would believe he has a reason to think this. I can count multiple members that we have seen go down in flames due to drugs or alcohol and they all claimed the same thing you are, not a druggie. Do I care if you are or he is wrong? Nope. Do I care if he made it up to piss you off? Nope. I'd imagine that I am in the large majority here. Honestly, I don't care about much you have to say about members like @mands. Really shouldn't even be commenting on this, but I did find it funny that you are standing on a soapbox crying lies and deceit when that is how this entire thing started; Lying about GH testing.

 

[Wunderpus]

This is the general consensus across most boards. It's common knowledge, I love meso, but I know not to trust everything I read here.


KIND!! Now that's funny. I won't argue with the knowledgeable comment, but kind?

To me, yes. I have chatted with him in private and he was always kind, to me. I can't speak for others.... Why would I?

 

[AnTabolic73]

To me, yes. I have chatted with him in private and he was always kind, to me. I can't speak for others.... Why would I?

Fair enough.

 

[janoshik]

I paid international shipping on those kits to be tested didn't I? I was promised testing and you lied about it. Made some fake story to make you look reputable and it only made you look like a fool to anyone with half a brain.

There is no Hypocrisy going on here except on your end. I know your type and I know what you are about. You are mentally unstable and can't control your anger.

Get it together dude. Like I said make a thread admitting to all(make sure you tag all your buddies and customers) that you lied to me and to all the community.

mands

That's a definition of thievery? Making you pay shipping? Good one, master cherrypicker, you really know how to cheer me up. Why didn't you ever request a refund, if it's 'thievery' according to you?

Now pick other two cherries so I can have a laugh.

Post the evidence I'm drug addict and that I'm overcharging people, you lying hypocrite.



I know you are expecting me to burst in anger and lose coherence and narrative and that is exactly what makes it so easy to remain perfectly calm.