First Cycle @ 21

[Anabolic21]

Age: 21
Height: 6'3"
Weight: 210lb
Gym Experience: 4-5 yrs
Goals: to get bigger. Lifting is my main hobby. And minimize / eliminate the risk of permanent fertility / HPTA damage (with proper PCT and using hCG)

Cycle:
Wk1-12
Test E 500mg/wk
hCG 500iu/wk

Wk 1-14
Arimidex 0.25mg EOD

PCT: (14 Days after last injection)
Wk 14-18
Clomid 75/50/50/50
Nolvadex 40/20/20/20

Thoughts?
I look up to people like Chris Bumstead and Larry Wheels... They're both 22. They also have 1/1000000 genetics. Anyone else out there experienced with AAS in their 20's?

 

[foxace36]

If you really want to blast, just do it. I'd only advise against if you're still a teenager. You're unlikely to damage your fertility (unless you already have fertility issues), and I think you're more likely to bounce back (in terms of HTPA recover) because you're so young. Maybe that's wrong, but that's what I've heard.

I'm 21; I started at 20. I BnC though. Best decision I've made, even if it means TRT (though I doubt it). Plan on running a long PCT when I'm done, and if it goes well, great, if not, TRT route.

 

[penche]

Too young next thread will be why am I depressed and dick don't work. Just sayin stick around you'll see those threads

 

[JohnLong]

im 25
i started my first 3 weeks ago
im on sustanon 350/week
500/week is a good start
i havent touched my aromasin
i wouldn't recommend start using your AI until you notice what extra estrogen feels like

 

[EcpertRealistic]

Age: 21
Height: 6'3"
Weight: 210lb
Gym Experience: 4-5 yrs
Goals: to get bigger. Lifting is my main hobby. And minimize / eliminate the risk of permanent fertility / HPTA damage (with proper PCT and using hCG)

Cycle:
Wk1-12
Test E 500mg/wk
hCG 500iu/wk

Wk 1-14
Arimidex 0.25mg EOD

PCT: (14 Days after last injection)
Wk 14-18
Clomid 75/50/50/50
Nolvadex 40/20/20/20

Thoughts?
I look up to people like Chris Bumstead and Larry Wheels... They're both 22. They also have 1/1000000 genetics. Anyone else out there experienced with AAS in their 20's?

I won't recommend to anyone wanting to look good to run testosterone only cycle. Is the most mediocre way to screw your hpta and gains are soft. Much better bulking steroids out there.

Your chest will grow uneven on testosterone. And may develop gyno. 150mg test/week is the maximum I will EVER run of test.

You will see how soft and fat you look after the cycle. Just watch

Here's a better cycle

150 test / 10 week
Anadrol 25-50/day for 4 weeks
Masterone 350mg/ 10 weeks
Nandrolone 300mg/week 8 weeks

 

[foxace36]

Too young next thread will be why am I depressed and dick don't work. Just sayin stick around you'll see those threads

A young age is not always an indicator of ignorance. Cycling is far from rocket science. With adequate research, he will be fine.

 

[Evom1]

I won't recommend to anyone wanting to look good to run testosterone only cycle. Is the most mediocre way to screw your hpta and gains are soft. Much better bulking steroids out there.

Your chest will grow uneven on testosterone. And may develop gyno. 150mg test/week is the maximum I will EVER run of test.

You will see how soft and fat you look after the cycle. Just watch

Here's a better cycle

150 test / 10 week
Anadrol 25-50/day for 4 weeks
Masterone 350mg/ 10 weeks
Nandrolone 300mg/week 8 weeks

Ignore this guy. He's been spamming a ton of threads.

 

[MindlessWork]

Ignore this guy. He's been spamming a ton of threads.

Not to mention the shitty and dangerous advice.

 

[EcpertRealistic]

im 25
i started my first 3 weeks ago
im on sustanon 350/week
500/week is a good start
i havent touched my aromasin
i wouldn't recommend start using your AI until you notice what extra estrogen feels like

Is your chest already sagging?
That's the problem with testosterone, your chest will start sagging and your nipples will get uneven.

 

[Anabolic21]

Thanks for the replies.
Does anyone else use hCG? Does this cycle look good to everyone?
@EcpertRealistic test only cycles are very very common especially for first cycles... I think everyones on the same page with that.

 

[Just Fish]

I won't recommend to anyone wanting to look good to run testosterone only cycle. Is the most mediocre way to screw your hpta and gains are soft. Much better bulking steroids out there.

Your chest will grow uneven on testosterone. And may develop gyno. 150mg test/week is the maximum I will EVER run of test.

You will see how soft and fat you look after the cycle. Just watch

Here's a better cycle

150 test / 10 week
Anadrol 25-50/day for 4 weeks
Masterone 350mg/ 10 weeks
Nandrolone 300mg/week 8 weeks

Still at it moron. Stop giving advice and get back on the corner bitch

 

[penche]

A young age is not always an indicator of ignorance. Cycling is far from rocket science. With adequate research, he will be fine.

Are you sure? You checked out his research already? What happens if he runs into trouble or possibly buys fake testosterone. You think he'll purchase blood panels and understand what he's looking at? Does he know the indicators for high liver values, kidney indicators, what a high WBC could mean?
Are you aware of these indicators? Do you get bloodwork done on a regular cycle?

Some do get limp dick if the estrogen is too high or they feel like complete shit. Your not him therefore you can't answer for him. Everyone is different. For the most part pct is a waste... you gain all these lean body mass with high ass anabolic/androgens to go back to a less than normal testosterone value. No matter how you cut it, you will end up losing most of all of it. And those that claim I keeped 7-10lbs could've done it without hormones. Makes no sense and I don't advocate young 20yr olds to "cruise."

 

[foxace36]

Are you sure? You checked out his research already? What happens if he runs into trouble or possibly buys fake testosterone. You think he'll purchase blood panels and understand what he's looking at? Does he know the indicators for high liver values, kidney indicators, what a high WBC could mean?
Are you aware of these indicators? Do you get bloodwork done on a regular cycle?

Some do get limp dick if the estrogen is too high or they feel like complete shit. Your not him therefore you can't answer for him. Everyone is different. For the most part pct is a waste... you gain all these lean body mass with high ass anabolic/androgens to go back to a less than normal testosterone value. No matter how you cut it, you will end up losing most of all of it. And those that claim I keeped 7-10lbs could've done it without hormones. Makes no sense and I don't advocate young 20yr olds to "cruise."

You missed the part where I said "with adequate research." Never implied he already knew everything. Regardless, I get all of that done, regularly, and knew my shit inside and out when I started at 20. It just really grinds my gears when people treat age as some indicator of intelligence/responsibility.

 

[penche]

You missed the part where I said "with adequate research." Never implied he already knew everything. Regardless, I get all of that done, regularly, and knew my shit inside and out when I started at 20. It just really grinds my gears when people treat age as some indicator of intelligence/responsibility.

Makes no sense for you to give him advice because you missed the part where he wants to "pct". You blast and cruise. Yea I'm sure he'll be fine while he's on clomid and you're cruising on 250mg of Test per week. Oh yea... he'll feel really fine.. kinda like a 2 dollar whore with one shoe fine Amirite?

God dam 20yrs olds nowadays...wtf

 

[Oldschool]

You missed the part where I said "with adequate research." Never implied he already knew everything. Regardless, I get all of that done, regularly, and knew my shit inside and out when I started at 20. It just really grinds my gears when people treat age as some indicator of intelligence/responsibility.

You talking to a well respected member like you have your fucking ducks in a row and have a thread asking members here why you almost passed the fuck out? Fuck off dude. PENCHE DONE FORGOT MORE THAN YOU WILL EVER KNOW. And another thing,, nobody gives two fucks about what grinds your gears. Get the fuck out of here.

 

[Sk8man101]

Problem:
The two week rule regarding when to start your pct doesn't apply to all cycles.
You need to understand the halflives of all the shit your taking.

I'd link you some shit to read but I'm way to lazy to find it.

Found it, read these threads:
Is the Active Life of the drug how long to wait to start PCT?
third week of pct, libido death! please help

 

[Oldschool]

im 25
i started my first 3 weeks ago
im on sustanon 350/week
500/week is a good start
i havent touched my aromasin
i wouldn't recommend start using your AI until you notice what extra estrogen feels like

Some low estrogen sides are the same as high estrogen sides. In all your wisdom do You know how to tell which problem You are having(high or low estrogen)? You guys are playing with fire not doing this shit right. I'm done fucking with you whippersnappers. I have step children to whip.

 

[Sk8man101]

Some low estrogen sides are the same as high estrogen sides. In all your wisdom do You know how to tell which problem You are having(high or low estrogen)? You guys are playing with fire not doing this shit right. I'm done fucking with you whippersnappers. I have step children to whip.

Good point.

 

[JohnLong]

Some low estrogen sides are the same as high estrogen sides. In all your wisdom do You know how to tell which problem You are having(high or low estrogen)? You guys are playing with fire not doing this shit right. I'm done fucking with you whippersnappers. I have step children to whip.

how would i have low estrogen if i havent taken an ai yet?
if you take your ai and notice side effects related to low estrogen you probably crashed your estrogen. its not hard to figure it out

 

[Sk8man101]

You missed the part where I said "with adequate research." Never implied he already knew everything. Regardless, I get all of that done, regularly, and knew my shit inside and out when I started at 20. It just really grinds my gears when people treat age as some indicator of intelligence/responsibility.

I'm 23 and I'll tell you right now this dude doesn't have the knowledge to be cycling.

If he DID have the knowledge, he would have enough to know he probably shouldn't be cycling at that age.