First Cycle Test P / Test E

[Kobrah]

Your welcome. Be safe. Keep us updated on progress.

Thanks, I will. I am waiting till next friday to start, just because honestly. I'll post up some progress.

Like everyone else said you shouldn't use at your age but if you are going to do it, then use test only! Hgh and insulin has fucked up more people than you can imagine. If you fucked up on dosing you could even die. So hold of on them for about a decade lol.

I still think you shouldn't use but if you did I would use prop to coast into pct and if you have enough you can use it as a jump start. Personally I would just use prop and run a 6-8 week cycle at most and do proper PCT. The goal being to restart your hpta as fast as possible. Good luck

After researching GH more, and everyone's comments, I'm an idiot for even mentioning it. LOL thanks for the advice I'm going to wait until 28-30's before that shit. Also, so you you think just prop would be better than both? or just E alone?

 

[Kobrah]

Dont do the gh you idiot. you're already doing severe permanent irreversible damage by injecting testosterone, don't make things worse

Thanks for the advice! I'm not using GH now.

 

[hurricane]

Thanks, I will. I am waiting till next friday to start, just because honestly. I'll post up some progress.

After researching GH more, and everyone's comments, I'm an idiot for even mentioning it. LOL thanks for the advice I'm going to wait until 28-30's before that shit. Also, so you you think just prop would be better than both? or just E alone?

Your not an idiot. You just didn't know what you were talking about. I think viking is getting at is you can run a shorter cycle with the prop because of the shorter Esther. At your age a shorter cycle is ideal. But do you have enough prop for that? You'll have to pin EOD for 8 weeks.

 

[Kobrah]

Your not an idiot. You just didn't know what you were talking about. I think viking is getting at is you can run a shorter cycle with the prop because of the shorter Esther. At your age a shorter cycle is ideal. But do you have enough prop for that? You'll have to pin EOD for 8 weeks.

I have 30ml 300mg/ml (3 vials) of Prop 50ml 300mg/ml (5 vials) of Enth plus my pct stuff. I bought a bunch so I wouldn't be short on anything.

 

[hurricane]

I have 30ml 300mg/ml (3 vials) of Prop 50ml 300mg/ml (5 vials) of Enth plus my pct stuff. I bought a bunch so I wouldn't be short on anything.

You have 300mg per ml of test prop. I know it can be done but I've never seen it. Are you sure your reading it right. 300 mg of prop will hurt like a mother fukr. What brand is the prop?

 

[Kobrah]

You have 300mg per ml of test prop. I know it can be done but I've never seen it. Are you sure your reading it right. 300 mg of prop will hurt like a mother fukr. What brand is the prop?

shit no I meant 100mg, prop 300mg enth! my mistake, good catch! Didn't read through what I typed before i posted!

 

[hurricane]

shit no I meant 100mg, prop 300mg enth! my mistake, good catch! Didn't read through what I typed before i posted!

Yeah those shots would of had you screaming.

 

[Apexvallen]

Thanks for the advice! I'm not using GH now.

Oh, you already said that before I posted. my bad. Good for you for listening. Nice to see someone actually taking some advice for once.

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And you actually have your PCT ready.. wow. im impressed

 

[Kobrah]

shit no I meant 100mg, prop 300mg enth! my mistake, good catch! Didn't read through what I typed before i posted![/QUO

Oh, you already said that before I posted. my bad. Good for you for listening. Nice to see someone actually taking some advice for once.

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And you actually have your PCT ready.. wow. im impressed

I appreciate the Input, and the advice from you, and everyone else, I don't think you vets get enough appreciation for all the info and wisdom you're willing to share with us newbies. Especially repeating it over and over and over again on the same thread posted by a million newbies like how i was that was too lazy to just search threads. Now I know better, and I can only have mad respect for you guys.

Once again. Thanks bros.

 

[Apexvallen]

You should do a log thread, just so some of the knowledgable guys can give you some input as you go along and itll save you making a new thread every time you have a small concern. Plus itll be cool to look back on in ten years to see where you started.

 

[Test_Subject]

shit no I meant 100mg, prop 300mg enth! my mistake, good catch! Didn't read through what I typed before i posted!

Thank god. 300mg/ml prop would cripple you, lol.

 

[ErikR]

First, yes you are too young. Second, it's your first cycle, so you should just run test e by itself. You will make nice gains on that alone. Third, just for thinking of using gh and insulin at your age shows that you shouldn't be running anything.

 

[Apexvallen]

First, yes you are too young. Second, it's your first cycle, so you should just run test e by itself. You will make nice gains on that alone. Third, just for thinking of using gh and insulin at your age shows that you shouldn't be running anything.

Also, this.

 

[Kobrah]

Like everyone else said you shouldn't use at your age but if you are going to do it, then use test only! Hgh and insulin has fucked up more people than you can imagine. If you fucked up on dosing you could even die. So hold of on them for about a decade lol.

I still think you shouldn't use but if you did I would use prop to coast into pct and if you have enough you can use it as a jump start. Personally I would just use prop and run a 6-8 week cycle at most and do proper PCT. The goal being to restart your hpta as fast as possible. Good luck

What are your guys thoughts on The Perfect 8-Week Testosterone-Based Steroid Cycle versus the advice on prop only for a less harsh cycle?

 

[hurricane]

What are your guys thoughts on The Perfect 8-Week Testosterone-Based Steroid Cycle versus the advice on prop only for a less harsh cycle?

Bill Roberts knows his shit and is a smart guy. I agree that a front load definitely works as I did it with sustanon. My problem is for a first cycle that front load of test will hit you hard. And not having done gear you don't know how your body can handle test. My most recent front load knocked me on my ass with a serious case of test flu. If you don't mind pinning EOD I think for 8 weeks just prop is close to perfect. In and out of your system quickly so you can easily assess your tolerance and adjust the cycle if need be. Just my thoughts.

 

[Kobrah]

Bill Roberts knows his shit and is a smart guy. I agree that a front load definitely works as I did it with sustanon. My problem is for a first cycle that front load of test will hit you hard. And not having done gear you don't know how your body can handle test. My most recent front load knocked me on my ass with a serious case of test flu. If you don't mind pinning EOD I think for 8 weeks just prop is close to perfect. In and out of your system quickly so you can easily assess your tolerance and adjust the cycle if need be. Just my thoughts.

Okay! I have no problem with pinning EOD, and you make a good point! Thanks brotha

 

[hurricane]

Okay! I have no problem with pinning EOD, and you make a good point! Thanks brotha

Your very welcome bud.

 

[viking23]

What are your guys thoughts on The Perfect 8-Week Testosterone-Based Steroid Cycle versus the advice on prop only for a less harsh cycle?

As @hurricane said, you can't go wrong with following advice from Bill Roberts. Although being new to cycling I would hold off on frontloading. I definitely recommend using a short ester or oral to ease the transition into PCT.

If you are okay with pinning EOD then I say you should just use prop. It's going to hurt a little more because of the virgin muscles though. It'll be nice being able to alter your dose if you need and more importantly using prop will limit the amount of time your htpa's shut down.

 

[wedorecover]

You think that'd be okay for a first cycle? I just want to have somewhere to go on my later cycles. Also it is alot! I meant to say 2IU's Twice daily or 7-10 3-4 times weekly... My mistake sorry! Thanks for that catch.

Your to young but u already have it so ur not gonna listen 500 mg of test e and u will make great gains all I'm gonna tell you is I hope you don't like using ur dick

 

[Kobrah]

As @hurricane said, you can't go wrong with following advice from Bill Roberts. Although being new to cycling I would hold off on frontloading. I definitely recommend using a short ester or oral to ease the transition into PCT.

If you are okay with pinning EOD then I say you should just use prop. It's going to hurt a little more because of the virgin muscles though. It'll be nice being able to alter your dose if you need and more importantly using prop will limit the amount of time your htpa's shut down.

Thanks for the advice brotha, I really appreciate it!