ironwill1951
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and then... a potato.I don't think i can argue with you, with a person who has less IQ then a potato
Planning my first cycle and getting everything together to do it right. I am going to the thailand to get pharmacy grade steroids
Stats:
Age: 24 ( been waiting for this moment since i was 18, i didn't wanted to ruin my system, so i had to wait 6 years)
Height: 6' 2"
Weight: 220lbs 14%bf
Diet now: 2800 Calories (45c/30p/25f) (maintenance)
Diet during cycle: 4500 calories (45c/30p/25f) (bulk)
Body Type: Ectomorph/Endomorph (skinnyfat)
Cycle:
Weeks 1 - 12 Test E 500mg (250mg monday / 250mg thursday)
Weeks 1 - 14 Liquidex .25mg EOD (bump to .5mg EOD if gyno/water retention occur)
Weeks 1- 13 HCG 250iu EOD (bump to 500 EOD if testicular atrophy occurs)
PCT:
Weeks 14 - 15 Liquid Clomi 100mg ED
Weeks 14 - 15 Nolvadex 40mg ED
Weeks 16 - 17 Liquid Clomi 50mg ED
Weeks 16 - 17 Nolvadex 20mg ED
Any advice or personal experince would be nice, also i can add my photos later on, and if anyone wants to join me in thailand, i would be glad
Skinnyfat is not body condition, its a curse, only people who never saw real skinnyfat think its because of lack of muscle, Also most "skinnyfat" genetic carriers don't get newbie gains, i had same problem, no matter how hard i was training i had minimum progress, but i haven't stopped, i went from 71kg to 92-98, I still call myself skinny fat because i get fat really fast on my butt/legs/abs, also if i cut down i don't get a lot of muscle definition, i wouldn't even considered taking steroids if i had better genetics, but i love bodybuilding that's why i am making this step.WTF is this? A well laid out plan that you obviously did your homework on to come up with. Great job. It looks pretty solid as a cycle. I wouldn't change it.
I'm also a skinny/fat dude and compete in BB so I know how hard it can be. Personally, I would change the diet around a little and slowly work up in calories until you hit a stalling point and then start the cycle and continue slowly adding calories. I've never had good luck making such a big jump in calories all at once. This is just me though. As this is your first cycle, you may find that a big jump like this while on cycle works well with you.
I was in Thailand years ago and would like to join you but my wife probably wouldn't understand.
Ill try to get bodyfat down, but as i mentioned i don't get a lot of definition, when i started i used to be 8% but i still had no abs, i was checked in hospital on army checkI normally wouldn't think someone could think they are skinnyfat at 14%. is your bodyfat higher than that?
First I would ask training experience. How long, how dedicated? when was your last break and for how long? So how consistent, what type of progress have you made, etc?
I mean those are the important things, want to make sure you really ready, because based off your stats and what you said, might not be the best time to start yet.
But if everything is in order I would start by priming. Would really try to bring the bodyfat down to nothing before the cycle, then I would ease into the extra calories as the cycle progresses. Increase them incrementally rather than all at once.
Ill try to get bodyfat down, but as i mentioned i don't get a lot of definition, when i started i used to be 8% but i still had no abs, i was checked in hospital on army check
Also post this 2 are talking about
ALL IN (First steroid cycle)
I made 2 posts 2 and 3 days ago, just because one didn't got attention as it was made in a time difference with usa, most of people in this post gave nonsense comments, that wouldn't help any1
Just an FYI for those that don't read the other thread. He only trains 2x a week because he is too lazy to go by himself, he thinks that he can change his entire life around the second he starts AAS and that he will maintain good diet and proper training with no real knowledge of training. Ima be mean to you because I hate people making identical threads because they didn't get the answer they wanted. I gave him solid cycle advice in the other one too. "Skinnyfat" is not some sort of genetic property that makes your body incapable of making noobie gains, you just sucked that's why you didn't make them. If skinnyfat did stop your body from adapting rapidly to new stimulus then the "skinnyfat gene" as you call it would have been wiped off the face of the planet centuries ago. You were never 8% BF because at 8%bf you will have abs unless for some reason you were born without core muscles or had them surgecally removed otherwise they'd show. Just because your scrawny doesn't make you lean. You undoubtably are not 14% BF right now too unless you can take a picture to prove me wrong but I'm gonna venture your like the rest that say 14% but are actually 20-22%. Good luck bud you are gonna need it
Now that is TRUE devotionHe's so fucking lazy his profile pic is him laying in bed. Typical 20 something. Wants all the results but doesn't want to sweet, hurt or go without his workout buddy.
I doubt you were 8% with no abs...Ill try to get bodyfat down, but as i mentioned i don't get a lot of definition, when i started i used to be 8% but i still had no abs, i was checked in hospital on army check
Also post this 2 are talking about
ALL IN (First steroid cycle)
I made 2 posts 2 and 3 days ago, just because one didn't got attention as it was made in a time difference with usa, most of people in this post gave nonsense comments, that wouldn't help any1
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ignore the troll bro - he's posted this already - see his other thread
HAHAHA!usually retards like you have huge forearms from sitting around watching gay porn and doing the one handed typing thing.