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Telboy

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Hey Gents,

Go easy on me, this will be my 6th cycle (Previous cycles being Test + NPP, Dbol, Tbol - pretty much the standard progression through cycles)

I think i have everything nailed but with the stigma attached with tren, I thought I'd just run it past some of you veterans.

Age:31
Height: 5'8
Weight: 81kg
BF: 13%
Target: Cutting (Diet would be tailored obviously, but thought i'd mention this here)

Initial thoughts from me; I'll be pinning ED to keep things consistent and I could in theory drop the Mast completely (At the moment I only introduce it in week 3 to check Tren sensitivity) but I don't see any downsides in keeping it, other than the cost.

I've also extended Nolva into week 6, which may not be necessary.

My planned cycle is:

Week 1: Test P - 300mg, Tren A - 400mg
Week 2: Test P - 300mg, Tren A - 400mg
Week 3: Test P - 300mg, Tren A - 400mg, Mast P - 300mg
Week 4: Test P - 300mg, Tren A - 400mg, Mast P - 300mg
Week 5: Test P - 300mg, Tren A - 400mg, Mast P - 300mg
Week 6: Test P - 300mg, Tren A - 400mg, Mast P - 300mg
Week 7: Test P - 300mg, Tren A - 400mg, Mast P - 300mg
Week 8: Test P - 300mg, Tren A - 400mg, Mast P - 300mg
Week 9: Test P - 300mg, Tren A - 400mg, Mast P - 300mg
Week 10: Test P - 300mg, Tren A - 400mg, Mast P - 300mg
Week 11: Test P - 300mg, Tren A - 400mg, Mast P - 300mg
Week 12: Test P - 300mg, Tren A - 400mg, Mast P - 300mg

Week 13: PCT Starts
Clomid - 100/75/50/50
Nolva 40/40/40/20/20/10

A.I:
Adex - 0.5 twice a week.
Caber - 0.5 a week (If lactating becomes an issue)

Any thoughts? :)
 
You really don't need to start with 400 mg tren in my opinion.I have ran up to 700mgs in the past and really its overkill.Now cutting on 500 test,300 tren a and just introducing drost prop which will be at 500mgs pwk.Also 500mg inj.l-carnitine + ECA. Body composition improving daily.My point was maybe it will be better to start tren at 200-250 for 2 weeks and see how it goes.
 
Tren91 said:
You really don't need to start with 400 mg tren in my opinion.I have ran up to 700mgs in the past and really its overkill.Now cutting on 500 test,300 tren a and just introducing drost prop which will be at 500mgs pwk.Also 500mg inj.l-carnitine + ECA. Body composition improving daily.My point was maybe it will be better to start tren at 200-250 for 2 weeks and see how it goes.
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Thanks buddy.

A lot of threads i've read, seem to indicate that by keeping test somewhat lower than the tren intake meant that they were able to keep sides minimal.

Obviously everybody reacts differently though. How have the sides been for you?
 
Telboy said:
Thanks buddy.

A lot of threads i've read, seem to indicate that by keeping test somewhat lower than the tren intake meant that they were able to keep sides minimal.

Obviously everybody reacts differently though. How have the sides been for you?
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Have heard it also,but does not apply for me.I don't experience sides until i reach 450-500 tren.I talking about the typical sides like bad sleep and sweating.Bloodwork trashed even at 200 mgs tho.But i feel like most people are way more scared from visual sides like acne,gyno and fucking hair loss than getting a heart atack LMAO. Anyway mast is a feel good compound for most like anavar.You will like the combo.
 
Tren91 said:
You really don't need to start with 400 mg tren in my opinion.I have ran up to 700mgs in the past and really its overkill.Now cutting on 500 test,300 tren a and just introducing drost prop which will be at 500mgs pwk.Also 500mg inj.l-carnitine + ECA. Body composition improving daily.My point was maybe it will be better to start tren at 200-250 for 2 weeks and see how it goes.
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Agreed, I’m running 200test and 200tren a on my bulk right now and it’s going great. The less tren the better, especially since it’s your first one.
 
You probably don’t need to be running Tren at all. The risk/reward thing. Unless you’re competing you don’t need it.

That being said, it’s up to you, and you probably already made up your mind. It looks like you researched it pretty well as your layout looks pretty good.

The only thing I would possibly change is the dosing. Like the other guys already said. You don’t need much to see a good effect.

Since it’s your first cycle with Tren I would dial in a dose. Do the first 3 weeks at 200 mg/week then bump it up to 300 for the next 3 weeks and see how you do at 400 for your final 3 weeks.
 
BigBaldBeardGuy said:
You probably don’t need to be running Tren at all. The risk/reward thing. Unless you’re competing you don’t need it.

That being said, it’s up to you, and you probably already made up your mind. It looks like you researched it pretty well as your layout looks pretty good.

The only thing I would possibly change is the dosing. Like the other guys already said. You don’t need much to see a good effect.

Since it’s your first cycle with Tren I would dial in a dose. Do the first 3 weeks at 200 mg/week then bump it up to 300 for the next 3 weeks and see how you do at 400 for your final 3 weeks.
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that’s some solid advice, I’d listen to him if I were you.
 
Cashton said:
Agreed, I’m running 200test and 200tren a on my bulk right now and it’s going great. The less tren the better, especially since it’s your first one.
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Test, tren, and... Don't tell me you are bulking on 200test + 200tren....
 
Cashton said:
Agreed, I’m running 200test and 200tren a on my bulk right now and it’s going great. The less tren the better, especially since it’s your first one.
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BigBaldBeardGuy said:
You probably don’t need to be running Tren at all. The risk/reward thing. Unless you’re competing you don’t need it.

That being said, it’s up to you, and you probably already made up your mind. It looks like you researched it pretty well as your layout looks pretty good.

The only thing I would possibly change is the dosing. Like the other guys already said. You don’t need much to see a good effect.

Since it’s your first cycle with Tren I would dial in a dose. Do the first 3 weeks at 200 mg/week then bump it up to 300 for the next 3 weeks and see how you do at 400 for your final 3 weeks.
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Thanks guys, really appreciate the feedback. I'll take this and revise the plan.
 
Telboy said:
Thanks guys, really appreciate the feedback. I'll take this and revise the plan.
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Cashton said:
Agreed, I’m running 200test and 200tren a on my bulk right now and it’s going great. The less tren the better, especially since it’s your first one.
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Tren is one of the poorest ASS when we talk about MPS. Test is actually doing all the job. Tren is great for specific purposes, but not for bulking at all.
 
BigBaldBeardGuy said:
You probably don’t need to be running Tren at all. The risk/reward thing. Unless you’re competing you don’t need it.

That being said, it’s up to you, and you probably already made up your mind. It looks like you researched it pretty well as your layout looks pretty good.

The only thing I would possibly change is the dosing. Like the other guys already said. You don’t need much to see a good effect.

Since it’s your first cycle with Tren I would dial in a dose. Do the first 3 weeks at 200 mg/week then bump it up to 300 for the next 3 weeks and see how you do at 400 for your final 3 weeks.
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This is best advice you got here, don't use tren unless u plan to compete,not worth it risk your health for nothing!

But if u really want to use it,for your size and everything ,just do 50mg EOD...it will be around 200mg per week and that is more then enough for you....400mg is overkill
 
Telboy said:
Hey Gents,

Go easy on me, this will be my 6th cycle (Previous cycles being Test + NPP, Dbol, Tbol - pretty much the standard progression through cycles)

I think i have everything nailed but with the stigma attached with tren, I thought I'd just run it past some of you veterans.

Age:31
Height: 5'8
Weight: 81kg
BF: 13%
Target: Cutting (Diet would be tailored obviously, but thought i'd mention this here)

Initial thoughts from me; I'll be pinning ED to keep things consistent and I could in theory drop the Mast completely (At the moment I only introduce it in week 3 to check Tren sensitivity) but I don't see any downsides in keeping it, other than the cost.

I've also extended Nolva into week 6, which may not be necessary.

My planned cycle is:

Week 1: Test P - 300mg, Tren A - 400mg
Week 2: Test P - 300mg, Tren A - 400mg
Week 3: Test P - 300mg, Tren A - 400mg, Mast P - 300mg
Week 4: Test P - 300mg, Tren A - 400mg, Mast P - 300mg
Week 5: Test P - 300mg, Tren A - 400mg, Mast P - 300mg
Week 6: Test P - 300mg, Tren A - 400mg, Mast P - 300mg
Week 7: Test P - 300mg, Tren A - 400mg, Mast P - 300mg
Week 8: Test P - 300mg, Tren A - 400mg, Mast P - 300mg
Week 9: Test P - 300mg, Tren A - 400mg, Mast P - 300mg
Week 10: Test P - 300mg, Tren A - 400mg, Mast P - 300mg
Week 11: Test P - 300mg, Tren A - 400mg, Mast P - 300mg
Week 12: Test P - 300mg, Tren A - 400mg, Mast P - 300mg

Week 13: PCT Starts
Clomid - 100/75/50/50
Nolva 40/40/40/20/20/10

A.I:
Adex - 0.5 twice a week.
Caber - 0.5 a week (If lactating becomes an issue)

Any thoughts? :)
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What @BigBaldBeardGuy said brother.

I just tried Tren for the first time on my last cycle.
Not because I needed to grow, but because I enjoy experimentation. (Its like 40% of my interest in AAS)

Honestly, I'd rather run a Test/Mast/Nandrolone run at decent dosage (1 gram of gear per week combined)

I can sleep better, I'm not sweating like a Hooker at church and I'm not a sexual deviant.

When you see actual pros who wont even run that shit anymore.. you stop and think lol.

I get better gains running Nandrolone or DHB or Primo etc.

Not because they're more powerful.
But because I feel absolutely fucking AMAZING on cycle.
King of the world, healthy and great.

Tren, I'm just not putting in the love and time that the gym needs.
I'm slightly stressed and stress hormones kill gains


I feel like, for a PRO
Tren is the key, but for me personally... even though I didnt experience bad sides.. and I felt "Good" on tren.
I wont be running it again, just better options
I dont feel like tren is "The evil devil" like everyone says

I just find it's over rated a bit and it's not particularly worth it in comparison to cycles that are healthier for our lifestyle and state of mine.
 
Currently cutting on 250mg test-e, 200mg tren-e and 200mg mast-e. Feeling mentally great and shape and strenght is God like.

Sleep could be better and i am a little easier frustrated, no other sides tho.. loving this cycle
 
Telboy said:
Any thoughts? :)
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Why tren? You can cut just as effectively on test and mast and you don't have to deal with all of the side-effects and health damage that come with tren use.

Unless you're a complete monster, test and mast is plenty to mitigate muscle loss during a cut. If you bump the mast up to 4-500 and drop the tren you'll have an effective cycle that won't make you feel like a bag of hammered assholes.

If you don't have a specific reason that you NEED to use tren, I wouldn't. I swore that shit off years ago. It's terrible for you and your quality of life. I'm sure lots of people will disagree, but that's my 2c.
 
Telboy said:
Hey Gents,

Go easy on me, this will be my 6th cycle (Previous cycles being Test + NPP, Dbol, Tbol - pretty much the standard progression through cycles)

I think i have everything nailed but with the stigma attached with tren, I thought I'd just run it past some of you veterans.

Age:31
Height: 5'8
Weight: 81kg
BF: 13%
Target: Cutting (Diet would be tailored obviously, but thought i'd mention this here)

Initial thoughts from me; I'll be pinning ED to keep things consistent and I could in theory drop the Mast completely (At the moment I only introduce it in week 3 to check Tren sensitivity) but I don't see any downsides in keeping it, other than the cost.

I've also extended Nolva into week 6, which may not be necessary.

My planned cycle is:

Week 1: Test P - 300mg, Tren A - 400mg
Week 2: Test P - 300mg, Tren A - 400mg
Week 3: Test P - 300mg, Tren A - 400mg, Mast P - 300mg
Week 4: Test P - 300mg, Tren A - 400mg, Mast P - 300mg
Week 5: Test P - 300mg, Tren A - 400mg, Mast P - 300mg
Week 6: Test P - 300mg, Tren A - 400mg, Mast P - 300mg
Week 7: Test P - 300mg, Tren A - 400mg, Mast P - 300mg
Week 8: Test P - 300mg, Tren A - 400mg, Mast P - 300mg
Week 9: Test P - 300mg, Tren A - 400mg, Mast P - 300mg
Week 10: Test P - 300mg, Tren A - 400mg, Mast P - 300mg
Week 11: Test P - 300mg, Tren A - 400mg, Mast P - 300mg
Week 12: Test P - 300mg, Tren A - 400mg, Mast P - 300mg

Week 13: PCT Starts
Clomid - 100/75/50/50
Nolva 40/40/40/20/20/10

A.I:
Adex - 0.5 twice a week.
Caber - 0.5 a week (If lactating becomes an issue)

Any thoughts? :)
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Tren is the steroid where all the stereotypes of a juice head were born. It is intense and I think you should start with as little a dose as possible and work your way up. It’s an incredible steroid and I personally save it to use only when breaking through plateaus. Don’t abuse it and start slow are the best recommendations I can give you.
 
BigDaddyV said:
Tren is the steroid where all the stereotypes of a juice head were born. It is intense and I think you should start with as little a dose as possible and work your way up. It’s an incredible steroid and I personally save it to use only when breaking through plateaus. Don’t abuse it and start slow are the best recommendations I can give you.
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Imo it's drug just for competition...not worth the risk using it for nothing
 
BigDaddyV said:
People abuse the fuck out of tren. I agree with you unless you need to look your absolute best it’s not worth using. There are so many other safer steroids that will get you to your goal.
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The most abused drug in any sport not just bodybuilding... it's mostly cause it can substitute hard work and u still get some results...but still person that gives 100% in everything will beat lazy fuck on tren
 
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