For all those that are serving and have served

[franchise24]

LC, it DOES matter, though. He reps a company that notoriously scams his fellow "members", solely for profit. He is a rat that will feed on his common folk. Not to be trusted. There are reasons reps are outcast to their threads...

There never was a complaint of IA scamming a customer. Now this thread wssn't intended for IA or me.

It was to put out some info for vets to watch or non vets to watch. Maybe if were a vet you'd know that vets commit suicide at an alarming rate. The soldiers in documentary won't come out and say their issues but a vet understands many of the things that were said and probably going through the same thing. Who knows how that documentary helped someone. Not here but elsewhere.

 

[Leancuisine]

LC, it DOES matter, though. He reps a company that notoriously scams his fellow "members", solely for profit. He is a rat that will feed on his common folk. Not to be trusted. There are reasons reps are outcast to their threads...

I alone have had more issues from Panda than entire communities have had with IA.

Odd isn't it... I will post an issue that I have with panda, and then I'll receive 10-15 PM's telling me that the had the same issues. But they don't publicly say it because panda has a cult following of dick lickers.

Am I the only one that thinks this is odd????

 

[Wunderpus]

I alone have had more issues from Panda than entire communities have had with IA.

Odd isn't it... I will post an issue that I have with panda, and then I'll receive 10-15 PM's telling me that the had the same issues. But they don't publicly say it because panda has a cult following of dick lickers.

Am I the only one that thinks this is odd????

Not sure, man. I don't really follow Panda... But, I would agree, that is fucked up. I believe in full public transparency, as it appears you do as well. This is why the labeling of reps on their handles, and only allowing them to post on their labs' threads, really makes sense. Less confusion.

 

[Leancuisine]

LC, it DOES matter, though. He reps a company that notoriously scams his fellow "members", solely for profit. He is a rat that will feed on his common folk. Not to be trusted. There are reasons reps are outcast to their threads...

Man I can understand your point. I see where you're coming from. But franchise has NEVER burned someone on meso.
If you've been burned before by a rep, it sucks. But what can ya do? I understand you have a feeling to protect meso from this happening to other members. I understand that.

But he's never burned anyone. I'll give anyone a chance. Shit I'm even trying to be more understanding of masteron.

 

[Wunderpus]

There never was a complaint of IA scamming a customer. Now this thread wssn't intended for IA or me.

It was to put out some info for vets to watch or non vets to watch. Maybe if were a vet you'd know that vets commit suicide at an alarming rate. The soldiers in documentary won't come out and say their issues but a vet understands many of the things that were said and probably going through the same thing. Who knows how that documentary helped someone. Not here but elsewhere.

EVERYTHING YOU POST SHOULD BE A REFLECTION OF THE LAB YOU REP, OR SOMEHOW RELATED TO THAT LAB!

We DO NOT CARE about your personal experiences, beliefs, thoughts, ideas or anything now. You VOIDED that when you became a gear whore. That privilege is GONE. Sorry, just the path you chose.

Can I make it more clear?

 

[Wunderpus]

Man I can understand your point. I see where you're coming from. But franchise has NEVER burned someone on meso.
If you've been burned before by a rep, it sucks. But what can ya do? I understand you have a feeling to protect meso from this happening to other members. I understand that.

But he's never burned anyone. I'll give anyone a chance. Shit I'm even trying to be more understanding of masteron.

Affiliating with ANY lab immediately shows your disregard for the well being of our community. Labs fuck up, even the best ones... You are basically signing a contract to potentially lie, or weasel, your lab's way out of issues both publicly and privately, for little financial gain... It's a character test, more than anything. If you're willing to rep a lab, especially one with a shotty record, you have failed our established character test here at Meso. That's it, man.

 

[Leancuisine]

Not sure, man. I don't really follow Panda... But, I would agree, that is fucked up. I believe in full public transparency, as it appears you do as well. This is why the labeling of reps on their handles, and only allowing them to post on their labs' threads, really makes sense. Less confusion.

I understand this as well. But for the most part, everyone knows he's a rep. It's no secret, and for those who feel strongly against this, the simple answer is to not order from him.

I believe in transparency, but being as this is an illegal drug forum... I understand people being cautious with things.

The thing is though, every rep gets run through the mud until they establish themselves. I can understand why, but I just don't agree with it. Someone is going to order from them eventually, so whether they are welcomed or greeted with hostility, I think the process of establishing a labs legitimacy is the same either way?

 

[Wunderpus]

I'm certain that I could probably rep for about ANY lab if I wanted to. I have enough pull here, and on some other boards, that most labs would gladly send me free gear to pimp their shit. This isn't an ego thing, this is just a fact. But, guess what, I'd NEVER even consider it for half a second. Why? Because I care more about being a member than I do about a few bucks, or discounted gear. Everything I would ever say after that moment would be, and should be, regarded as bullshit at best. I don't want to lose my rights as a member here, or on the other boards I frequent. The information and knowledge I've gathered from our community is so much more valuable. This is why, in a sense, I take personal distaste to members converting to reps. It's gross.

 

[Wunderpus]

I understand this as well. But for the most part, everyone knows he's a rep. It's no secret, and for those who feel strongly against this, the simple answer is to not order from him.

I believe in transparency, but being as this is an illegal drug forum... I understand people being cautious with things.

The thing is though, every rep gets run through the mud until they establish themselves. I can understand why, but I just don't agree with it. Someone is going to order from them eventually, so whether they are welcomed or greeted with hostility, I think the process of establishing a labs legitimacy is the same either way?

The only way to somewhat legitimize themselves is to label their handles as a rep, and to only dwell within the appropriate threads. It just has to be that way. Homeboy can't play around as a member when he wants to, and a rep when he wants a few bucks. Sorry, I just don't see how that's sustainable. If it were, everyone would be a rep from time to time to pay for their upcoming cycle. Some dye that is cast cannot be undone.

 

[franchise24]

EVERYTHING YOU POST SHOULD BE A REFLECTION OF THE LAB YOU REP, OR SOMEHOW RELATED TO THAT LAB!

We DO NOT CARE about your personal experiences, beliefs, thoughts, ideas or anything now. You VOIDED that when you became a gear whore. That privilege is GONE. Sorry, just the path you chose.

Can I make it more clear?

You speak for yourself and handful of others. The knowledge I'm gaining from my training with a coach who is a hall of fame powerlifter is invaluable. You might not care but there those that do. And the info I share that I'm learning have the interest of some.

As far as making yourself clear. Yeah it's clear. It's been beating more times than I care to count.

I'm still going to log my workouts and what my coach does for us to improve. I'm still going post on anything military related.

Me being a rep does not detract from my service. There is an exception to everything in life. The comment someone made of an SF serving then raping a boy or child was a very bad comparison.

 

[Wunderpus]

Me being a rep does not detract from my service.

Duh. They are entirely unrelated.

I'm glad that you feel your regurgitated information from some world class powerlifting coach is valuable. Maybe it is, maybe it isn't. I hope the money you're making from pimping shitty UGL oils is funding this next evolution of your training knowledge, how touching.

Personally, I prefer to make my money the old fashioned, and legal, way. I too use a coach, not even some mystery ghost coach like you do, and I log my information in a thread. Carry on, we all know your time here has an expiration date. You only have a few options, really... Inevitably your time with that lab will end. Either they will fuck up, or you will decide you're done. You'll either need to make a new handle, or carry the mark of shame on your handle till the end of time.

I think we know which it'll be. Please let me know what your new handle is, when you make it, so I know where to direct my unpleasant words.

 

[franchise24]

Duh. They are entirely unrelated.

I'm glad that you feel your regurgitated information from some world class powerlifting coach is valuable. Maybe it is, maybe it isn't. I hope the money you're making from pimping shitty UGL oils is funding this next evolution of your training knowledge, how touching.

Personally, I prefer to make my money the old fashioned, and legal, way. I too use a coach, not even some mystery ghost coach like you do, and I log my information in a thread. Carry on, we all know your time here has an expiration date. You only have a few options, really... Inevitably your time with that lab will end. Either they will fuck up, or you will decide you're done. You'll either need to make a new handle, or carry the mark of shame on your handle till the end of time.

I think we know which it'll be. Please let me know what your new handle is, when you make it, so I know where to direct my unpleasant words.

He's no mystery ghost coach bud. Don't get that twisted. Hall of Powerlifter Steve Goggins.

I made my living and retired from the army. Carry on.

 

[Eman]

You speak for yourself and handful of others. The knowledge I'm gaining from my training with a coach who is a hall of fame powerlifter is invaluable. You might not care but there those that do. And the info I share that I'm learning have the interest of some.

As far as making yourself clear. Yeah it's clear. It's been beating more times than I care to count.

I'm still going to log my workouts and what my coach does for us to improve. I'm still going post on anything military related.

Me being a rep does not detract from my service. There is an exception to everything in life. The comment someone made of an SF serving then raping a boy or child was a very bad comparison.

There's been quite a few reps that think they can be members too. They all eventually give up and stay in there thread, where they belong. You will too... Just depends on how many times it needs beaten into your head.

It's a pretty sad state of affairs. Still no clue why you chose this... I guess because you thought you could lie and get away with two handles. Doesn't matter.

 

[Wunderpus]

He's no mystery ghost coach bud. Don't get that twisted. Hall of Powerlifter Steve Goggins.

I made my living and retired from the army. Carry on.

Just need those few extra bucks from pimping a lab, though? Or is it just to pay for your gear? Honest questions, why did you choose to rep this lab, and why rep any lab? Did they approach you, or did you approach them? Did you use their products prior? Are you using their products now? Have you personally tested any of their products? Will you stand behind them if, and most likely when, something goes to shit? How long do you plan to rep? Do you expect to become a regular member when your time repping this lab ends? Or, will you just go to repping another, but in private this time?

@Millard Baker can we please get old Franchise here an appropriate branding for the lab he publicly reps, like the Pharmacom folk. He is no longer a "member", he's a sales person.

 

[Wunderpus]

There's been quite a few reps that think they can be members too. They all eventually give up and stay in there thread, where they belong. You will too... Just depends on how many times it needs beaten into your head.

It's a pretty sad state of affairs. Still no clue why you chose this... I guess because you thought you could lie and get away with two handles. Doesn't matter.

Oh yeah, i forgot homeboy lied. How's that for character, @Leancuisine ? Too bad he got caught, right? Damn.... Could've been nice to have two handles. Shit, I should've thought of that

 

[franchise24]

Just need those few extra bucks from pimping a lab, though? Or is it just to pay for your gear? Honest questions, why did you choose to rep this lab, and why rep any lab? Did they approach you, or did you approach them? Did you use their products prior? Are you using their products now? Have you personally tested any of their products? Will you stand behind them if, and most likely when, something goes to shit? How long do you plan to rep? Do you expect to become a regular member when your time repping this lab ends? Or, will you just go to repping another, but in private this time?

@Millard Baker can we please get old Franchise here an appropriate branding for the lab he publicly reps, like the Pharmacom folk. He is no longer a "member", he's a sales person.

I pm Millard I can post the pm if you'd like about the rep stuff.

They approached me after I made a purchase a few weeks before my meet. I'm using their products now. As far as testing. Only lab work from last year and it was spot on with my TRT script.

 

[franchise24]

Oh yeah, i forgot homeboy lied. How's that for character, @Leancuisine ? Too bad he got caught, right? Damn.... Could've been nice to have two handles. Shit, I should've thought of that

Well let's see that is common thing to do. You've been around long enough to know that.

A rep handle and your regular handle separate. There are many reasons for that. No need to to list them

 

[Wunderpus]

Well let's see that is common thing to do. You've been around long enough to know that.

A rep handle and your regular handle separate. There are many reasons for that. No need to to list them

I was being sarcastic.... I've seen it countless times.

I pm Millard I can post the pm if you'd like about the rep stuff.

They approached me after I made a purchase a few weeks before my meet. I'm using their products now. As far as testing. Only lab work from last year and it was spot on with my TRT script.

No, thanks. I think the rep in you is already forgetting what the "P" in PM stands for. It's "private", just so you know. I don't need to see your convos with Millard. I'd prefer to see his public response to my suggestion, anyway.

So, you bought one order, then they came to you and asked you to rep, unsolicited? I'd rather see those PMs than the ones with Millard.... ha. Not to overstep my privacy boundaries here, but, in what manner are you compensated? Discounts? Free products? Money? Percentage of the sales you are somehow responsible for? Is gear whoring commission based, or more of a salary gig?

 

[franchise24]

The only way to somewhat legitimize themselves is to label their handles as a rep, and to only dwell within the appropriate threads. It just has to be that way. Homeboy can't play around as a member when he wants to, and a rep when he wants a few bucks. Sorry, I just don't see how that's sustainable. If it were, everyone would be a rep from time to time to pay for their upcoming cycle. Some dye that is cast cannot be undone.

You have your beliefs and I have I agree to disagree with you on a certain things and I agree with some of your points.

My log is what it is a log. My log speaks of nothing but training. I might have posted in my old log my cycle or not cant remember. But I can almost assure you that my new log has no gear talk.

 

[Eman]

Oh yeah, i forgot homeboy lied. How's that for character, @Leancuisine ? Too bad he got caught, right? Damn.... Could've been nice to have two handles. Shit, I should've thought of that

I don't envy LC's position. I gave him my thoughts before, he's on a slippery slope if he wants to defend Franchise and he knows that.

With that said, I'm not sure exactly how much of a hypocrite I would become if a good friend starting repping... It would not be a fun position to be in.

It doesn't change my stance though... Franchise wanted to be a gear whore more than a member. I think he's still in denial about it... He'll come to terms eventually though.