For all those that are serving and have served

[Wunderpus]

You have your beliefs and I have I agree to disagree with you on a certain things and I agree with some of your points.

My log is what it is a log. My log speaks of nothing but training. I might have posted in my old log my cycle or not cant remember. But I can almost assure you that my new log has no gear talk.

No, this is again where you're WRONG! All the "positive" things you post about your results, your training, your PRs, your goals... They are ALL centered around the gear you are using, it's a FUCKING steroid forum... This then leads to the certainly overstated and fake results you will receive from this magic sauce... Then, causing your brothers and sisters here (former), that had faith in your, to certainly spark some curiosity as to what lab you're running!

And would you look at the, luckily for them, you'll be MORE than glad to share what lab you're running.... I expect to see NOTHING but great results from your current, and future cycles

Amazing how good those results can be when they lead to money, am i right?

 

[Leancuisine]

Oh yeah, i forgot homeboy lied. How's that for character, @Leancuisine ? Too bad he got caught, right? Damn.... Could've been nice to have two handles. Shit, I should've thought of that

I understand why he made another handle. I have to admit though... the 21gunsalute name was a little on the nose for who it was.

I just looked at his avi and it says the ia super pharmacy right on it. He isn't hiding anything anymore.

For someone to have a resource as a hall of fame powerlifting coach, I think that could definitely benefit the powerlifting community.
I'm not a power lifter. I'm a want to be, still wet behind the ears "bodybuilder" if you even want to call it that. Going for physique. Don't think I'm big enough, or confident enough in posing and what not, to do classic.

I understand your points. And @Wunderpus and I had a PM conversation and he mentioned the risk of people getting infections and sick and what not from labs. Makes sense. It's a very valid and real concern.

I just think that people should give new reps a chance. I will say I am going to give IA a chance.

I've only ever done gear from 3 different sources.
My first cycle was from nophat. I don't know if you guys remember that time or not. That was a few years ago, but nophat would brew his own gear and there would be auctions on meso!!! Freaking AUCTIONS FOR GEAR!?


@Millard Baker I'm legitimately curious, was this allowed? This was years ago, but it's odd to see how much things have changed. Was this a decision that was made by the community, or was it a rule that was written for safety reasons?


My second source was a private source and he stopped. Miss that guy.

Current source is purple panda. Homebrewed from his raws.

I have a competition coming up in March and I would like to try some IA stuff in the months before and maybe even some things leading into the competition.

I will give an honest review of the products, report any bad happenings, as well as the good. Unfortunately the closest quest is 12 hours away. I may end up doing blood work myself, as the VA blood tests top out at 1000 for test.

Long post. But I'll take the plunge. I'll be a guinea pig and review the stuff.

 

[Wunderpus]

I understand why he made another handle. I have to admit though... the 21gunsalute name was a little on the nose for who it was.

I just looked at his avi and it says the ia super pharmacy right on it. He isn't hiding anything anymore.

For someone to have a resource as a hall of fame powerlifting coach, I think that could definitely benefit the powerlifting community.
I'm not a power lifter. I'm a want to be, still wet behind the ears "bodybuilder" if you even want to call it that. Going for physique. Don't think I'm big enough, or confident enough in posing and what not, to do classic.

I understand your points. And @Wunderpus and I had a PM conversation and he mentioned the risk of people getting infections and sick and what not from labs. Makes sense. It's a very valid and real concern.

I just think that people should give new reps a chance. I will say I am going to give IA a chance.

I've only ever done gear from 3 different sources.
My first cycle was from nophat. I don't know if you guys remember that time or not. That was a few years ago, but nophat would brew his own gear and there would be auctions on meso!!! Freaking AUCTIONS FOR GEAR!?


@Millard Baker I'm legitimately curious, was this allowed? This was years ago, but it's odd to see how much things have changed. Was this a decision that was made by the community, or was it a rule that was written for safety reasons?


My second source was a private source and he stopped. Miss that guy.

Current source is purple panda. Homebrewed from his raws.

I have a competition coming up in March and I would like to try some IA stuff in the months before and maybe even some things leading into the competition.

I will give an honest review of the products, report any bad happenings, as well as the good. Unfortunately the closest quest is 12 hours away. I may end up doing blood work myself, as the VA blood tests top out at 1000 for test.

Long post. But I'll take the plunge. I'll be a guinea pig and review the stuff.

There is NO doubt that he COULD provide a lot of valuable information. Obviously he didn't actually give a fuck about the community, or he wouldn't rep a lab. All the alleged results from his training, gear, diet etc. are all subject to absolute scrutiny as it all looks like an advertisement for a lab, now. Sad, really.

Personally, I actually always liked Franchise, truly. I also thought he provided good info. Sad to see that disappear as all further posts about anything just appear to be an ad campaign for his lab.... At least that's how I see it.

 

[Wunderpus]

I've only ever done gear from 3 different sources.
My first cycle was from nophat. I don't know if you guys remember that time or not. That was a few years ago, but nophat would brew his own gear and there would be auctions on meso!!! Freaking AUCTIONS FOR GEAR!?

Bro, @biggerben69 and I were the reason NoPhat disappeared. He sent a personal friend of mine a hot pack... It was a nightmare. I literally texted Ben the moment I got the text from my buddy. Honestly, it was scary. I received I think 2 packs from NP prior, and told my buddy NP was G2G... Well, I surely felt like shit when the feds showed up with a hot pack asking if he was expecting anything. Luckily for him he used a fake name and they couldn't prove shit. However, they DID have copies of his WU transactions sent to NP... So, mustn't have been worth it to them to push for a few vials of gear. Either way, I've seen this all play out a million different ways. Almost always ends in us, the consumer, getting fucked. Call me over reactive, or whatever... Rather that then have my head on the metaphorical chopping block. I trust no one who can flip-flop so easily, and lie to us, for some coin.

 

[MindlessWork]

There is NO doubt that he COULD provide a lot of valuable information. Obviously he didn't actually give a fuck about the community, or he wouldn't rep a lab. All the alleged results from his training, gear, diet etc. are all subject to absolute scrutiny as it all looks like an advertisement for a lab, now. Sad, really.

Personally, I actually always liked Franchise, truly. I also thought he provided good info. Sad to see that disappear as all further posts about anything just appear to be an ad campaign for his lab.... At least that's how I see it.

Sup WP. You are a great poster and while not to defend Franchise I followed his PL log and he has been very careful so far as not to mention IA Pharma in his log but there will be someone bringing that up.

 

[Leancuisine]

Bro, @biggerben69 and I were the reason NoPhat disappeared. He sent a personal friend of mine a hot pack... It was a nightmare. I literally texted Ben the moment I got the text from my buddy. Honestly, it was scary. I received I think 2 packs from NP prior, and told my buddy NP was G2G... Well, I surely felt like shit when the feds showed up with a hot pack asking if he was expecting anything. Luckily for him he used a fake name and they couldn't prove shit. However, they DID have copies of his WU transactions sent to NP... So, mustn't have been worth it to them to push for a few vials of gear. Either way, I've seen this all play out a million different ways. Almost always ends in us, the consumer, getting fucked. Call me over reactive, or whatever... Rather that then have my head on the metaphorical chopping block. I trust no one who can flip-flop so easily, and lie to us, for some coin.

Jesus Christ I read about that actually last year I think. Idk when the thread was made but goddamn. I didn't know it was you. Wel not you, but your bud. That shit is fuckin scary. Good thing nothing came out of it.

 

[GigaloRob]

Sup WP. You are a great poster and while not to defend Franchise I followed his PL log and he has been very careful so far as not to mention IA Pharma in his log but there will be someone bringing that up.

If he openly reps for a source would it not be logical to conclude that he is using products from the source he reps for? A logical assumption would be that yes he is using or its implied that he is using his employers product. Either way his log is an advertisement while possibly containing other useful information. Both can simultaneously be true and are exactly that.

 

[franchise24]

No, this is again where you're WRONG! All the "positive" things you post about your results, your training, your PRs, your goals... They are ALL centered around the gear you are using, it's a FUCKING steroid forum... This then leads to the certainly overstated and fake results you will receive from this magic sauce... Then, causing your brothers and sisters here (former), that had faith in your, to certainly spark some curiosity as to what lab you're running!

And would you look at the, luckily for them, you'll be MORE than glad to share what lab you're running.... I expect to see NOTHING but great results from your current, and future cycles

Amazing how good those results can be when they lead to money, am i right?

I haven't gotten any questions about my cycle from my first log. And I set one rep PR's and rep PR's the last two weeks on trt. It was a technical flaw that was corrected. But I can see where you are going with that. I can send you a screen shot of what I believe was someone creating a second handle to try and get me to solicit them via pm. But that didn't work. I can pm you the pm I sent to millard about the rep tag or whatever you call it and a request I put in with milliard.

My thoughts are you can't trust anyone on the internet, unless you know them personally. You saying you have all the pull in the world says a lot of good and can be used to your advantage as well. We don't know if you snag up some free gear here and there because of your rep.

We only believe what you say because you have gained the the trust of many through the years. But what you do in private no one knows.

 

[MindlessWork]

If he openly reps for a source would it not be logical to conclude that he is using products from the source he reps for? A logical assumption would be that yes he is using or its implied that he is using his employers product. Either way his log is an advertisement while possibly containing other useful information. Both can simultaneously be true and are exactly that.

You could say that, and I do agree how objective his log would be going forward now that this comes to light. The debate will be strong in this one I am sure.

 

[jaymaximus]

When you're a rep you stay in your thread. There's no exceptions. Franchise made his choice, so stop trying to use military service as an excuse or a way to earn back respect. Loyalty Duty Respect Selfless Service honor integrity personal courage, how many of those have you violated? Guess fuckers is loyal to the gear now.

 

[franchise24]

When you're a rep you stay in your thread. There's no exceptions. Franchise made his choice, so stop trying to use military service as an excuse or a way to earn back respect. Loyalty Duty Respect Selfless Service honor integrity personal courage, how many of those have you violated? Guess fuckers is loyal to the gear now.

I never violated any of those. I am not using my military service to to earn respect. Maybe you didn't read the OP. It was a thread to watch a documentary on 5th group. I don't need respect from people on the internet bro. I earned that already in my life in many ways.

And listing all the army values. Kudos to you. We both served on the same team. I guarantee you would have been more than comfortable to have me watching your 6. END OF STORY!!!

Those that know me personally here can attest to that. Gear whore. Well I was a gear wore before being rep. And I bought all my gear. So I guess I'll always be a gear whore.

 

[Leancuisine]

When you're a rep you stay in your thread. There's no exceptions. Franchise made his choice, so stop trying to use military service as an excuse or a way to earn back respect. Loyalty Duty Respect Selfless Service honor integrity personal courage, how many of those have you violated? Guess fuckers is loyal to the gear now.

Goddamn that's some pog shit. Haven't heard LDRSHIP in for ever.

I never saw him using his service to fluff anything. He literally made a post trying to let people know of a documentary his buddy is in. Thread was completely harmless until that fuckin cunt nugget @TRT spread his legs to let all of meso lick his blue waffle.


If franny said something along the lines of "here's a documentary I thought of while sorting out my fine selection of IA. It's about 5th group, who all use IA."

But did he say that? Nope. But you
Mother fuckers seem to think so.

 

[TRT]

Goddamn that's some pog shit. Haven't heard LDRSHIP in for ever.

I never saw him using his service to fluff anything. He literally made a post trying to let people know of a documentary his buddy is in. Thread was completely harmless until that fuckin cunt nugget @TRT spread his legs to let all of meso lick his blue waffle.


If franny said something along the lines of "here's a documentary I thought of while sorting out my fine selection of IA. It's about 5th group, who all use IA."

But did he say that? Nope. But you
Mother fuckers seem to think so.

It doesn't matter what he was starting a thread about he shouldn't be cause he's a rep. Period.

 

[Leancuisine]

It doesn't matter what he was starting a thread about he shouldn't be cause he's a rep. Period.

Are you law enforcement? Can't imagine otherwise why you would have that officer as your avi.

If you are, pure definition of hypocrisy. I see lots of juices out cops and wonder how many people they've arrested for drugs.

If not, carry on. Still don't agree with your opinion.

People should be given a white sleet until they fuck up. Then mark it up and tarnish them.
I do that with all the members. If yo don't provide useful information, why do you post?

 

[Leancuisine]

I don't envy LC's position. I gave him my thoughts before, he's on a slippery slope if he wants to defend Franchise and he knows that.

With that said, I'm not sure exactly how much of a hypocrite I would become if a good friend starting repping... It would not be a fun position to be in.

It doesn't change my stance though... Franchise wanted to be a gear whore more than a member. I think he's still in denial about it... He'll come to terms eventually though.

Not much to envy. Maybe my lucious hair. About all I've got to claim.

My issue is everyone just flipped immediately. Anyone who once spoke good about franny is now running him through the mud. People switch so quick because a guy went to rep for a lab he likes. He has not changed one bit since he started repping.

 

[mands]

So you guys are ragging on him for making money off members? He isn't stealing. People are choosing to pay him.
Just as @Wunderpus you choose to pay chest Rockwell Is that not making money off members?
Odd how right when you started your little thread saying how great he is at being a couch, then shortly there after he starts getting paid BY MESO to not produce articles. At least if you give money to whatever lab franny reps, you get product.

But chest is paid to literally like people's questions in a thread. Where's his article? He seems like a fuckin scam. What about @mands? Doesn't he test shit for people? What about those who have members PAY THEM to test shit.

How about that guy that comments on threads telling people to buy his miglyol ?

If you're going to be a cunt to one guy, be a cunt to everyone who provides services.

I test for free for the community. Nobody has ever paid me to get anything tested ask around. I use my own money.

As far as @ChestRockwell why don't you start reading instead of making accusations.

The Most Effective Growth Hormone Protocol for Fat Loss

mands

 

[Eman]

My issue is everyone just flipped immediately. Anyone who once spoke good about franny is now running him through the mud. People switch so quick because a guy went to rep for a lab he likes. He has not changed one bit since he started repping.

Whether he changed or not isn't really the point, is it? His integrity is now out in the open, and it reflects poorly on him.

It's been the same way for anyone that has decided to choose free gear over the community... Someone flips on the community and the community flips on them. He values money/free gear over the community, why wouldn't people flip on him?

Again, I think it's a sad thing because I liked the guy but it just turned out he wasn't who I thought he was... What more can I say?

 

[gr8whitetrukker]

I just think that people should give new reps a chance. I will say I am going to give IA a chance.

Then where will you be when IA gets a bad batch and owes alot of customers replacements? Where will you be when IA realizes its going to cost him a metric shit ton of his own money to make customers right? Where will you be when IA and Franchise realize it would be easier to disappear on said customers offer them nothing and come back and rebrand 4 months later? Where will you be during all this?
ITS GONNA HAPPEN

 

[franchise24]

If he openly reps for a source would it not be logical to conclude that he is using products from the source he reps for? A logical assumption would be that yes he is using or its implied that he is using his employers product. Either way his log is an advertisement while possibly containing other useful information. Both can simultaneously be true and are exactly that.

This I agree with. Again implying is just that. It isn't a fact. I am giving those that powerlifting insight into training done at a professional level by a Hall of Fame lifter. Videos have been posted and have been removed.

Then where will you be when IA gets a bad batch and owes alot of customers replacements? Where will you be when IA realizes its going to cost him a metric shit ton of his own money to make customers right? Where will you be when IA and Franchise realize it would be easier to disappear on said customers offer them nothing and come back and rebrand 4 months later? Where will you be during all this?
ITS GONNA HAPPEN

This is beyond valid. As many ugls do. IA has been around for years. And they could have rebranded after the screw up with the SIMEC reports.

But they didn't. I was customer long before being a rep. And I won't disappear. I doubt that IA will have this issue. It won't be a perfect ride. But I will be transparent.

I'll face the music bad or good. Never been the type to run and hide.

 

[Leancuisine]

Then where will you be when IA gets a bad batch and owes alot of customers replacements? Where will you be when IA realizes its going to cost him a metric shit ton of his own money to make customers right? Where will you be when IA and Franchise realize it would be easier to disappear on said customers offer them nothing and come back and rebrand 4 months later? Where will you be during all this?
ITS GONNA HAPPEN

Well I don't work for the company so I'll be the same place I am right now. Things happen. Everyone fucks up a batch. Up to them how they handle it.

I said I'm going to try them out. Not live and breath IA.