For all those that are serving and have served

I have a lot of respect for you, but I gotta dis agree on @franchise24 s right to post threads... if it's about juice, fuck no, supps, fuck no, but something completely away from the topic of steroids and or sources shold be open .. I mean in a sense, anyone of us combat vets couls be considered reps for the us military...lol.. there is no possible way he could sway someone's opinion on the topic of vets.. Either your with us or against us.

It's all good brother, respect you as well. It's obviously a sensitive subject. It was the wrong thread for me to interject into as I do not want this to be anything about veterans. I just feel once you are a rep you are a rep. We all got our opinions, nothing personal. You are good people, hope life has been treating you well.
 
I told you... Slippery slope you were on.

You're making yourself look like a fool. All for a rep of a half assed lab.

In my opinion all for a friend.
I don't care anymore. I am not going to sit here and let a whole lot of people along mud, when they themselves are fuckin shills.
Franny has NEVER once pushed gear onto anyone. He's sent things to complete strangers. Things like lifting shoes, and other equipment that they said they needed. His character shines through and I do not see his decision to become a rep as a sketchy thing or a sell out at all.

I am tired of this place really. I'll miss some of the dudes here. @hurricane @Ickyrica @Perrin Aybara @XmadXscientist @Docd187123 nl @Seven Dog @insaiyan93 @Thenewera @JackSmooth @gr8whitetrukker @TorroXL

You all have been solid to me and helped me out with a lot. Some of you helped me tremendously with brewing, but all of yo were more than respectful and nice to me.

Just waiting on @Millard Baker to get back to me about deleting my shit
 
It's all good brother, respect you as well. It's obviously a sensitive subject. It was the wrong thread for me to interject into as I do not want this to be anything about veterans. I just feel once you are a rep you are a rep. We all got our opinions, nothing personal. You are good people, hope life has been treating you well.

I hear ya brother. But once you've been a combat MOS, that's with you for the rest of your life. No matter what kind of fucked up shit ya do, you're still part of a small group that not many others can understand.

I'm not giving anyone a free pass to be a cunt just because they've got some service time, but I think there should have been an exception with franny. Yeah he's a rep, but he's a fellow vet and a friend first. And really, as biased as it is, Veteran based threads should be just that... veterans. Because some civilian is going to come in and see the fucked up shit we say and then that's when the whole "thanks for your service but fuck you" ordeal starts.

Edit: thought I quoted Ryno. You didn't disrespect anyone. You're the most level headed guy in the thread.
 
:( take some time away maybe?

I had a guy say he was going to transfer his job location to a closer city to me just so he could kick my ass :rolleyes:

I understand it. I've been a hot head before. I just don't want to be around this type of environment anymore. I got a little son. I have to be more humble and level headed.
 
In my opinion all for a friend.
I don't care anymore. I am not going to sit here and let a whole lot of people along mud, when they themselves are fuckin shills.

You're entitled to your opinion man... It's ironic though that you defend him when he is the one who made his choices. He didn't even give it a second thought when he knew what would happen when he got caught with his second handle.

Best of luck to you. I'll see you when you come back...
 
You're entitled to your opinion man... It's ironic though that you defend him when he is the one who made his choices. He didn't even give it a second thought when he knew what would happen when he got caught with his second handle.

Best of luck to you. I'll see you when you come back...

Yeah no kidding. Meso is an addiction.
 
it's not a fun position, at all. It sucks watching this go down

People make their choices... nothing you can do, my friend.

If a friend of mine did this, I'd know they weren't the kind of friend I thought they were. Others can disagree, that's okay... But I know they probably had that same thought when they first found out about someone like franchise repping.
 
It's all good brother, respect you as well. It's obviously a sensitive subject. It was the wrong thread for me to interject into as I do not want this to be anything about veterans. I just feel once you are a rep you are a rep. We all got our opinions, nothing personal. You are good people, hope life has been treating you well.
Yesir life is good... how are you
 
Everyone here is taking it very personal like the guy fucked your wives and blew your knee caps out, leaving you to die in the woods.

So what? Something bad happens. I alone have had an issue on almost every order I've made with panda. No uproar there.

People have tried IA too, recently, and liked it just fine. No issues. They just don't want to go public with it because you guys will jump down their throat and shun them for trying a new type of gear.

Might as well be a paid board with the cult like following there is.
I'm only a member in 2 forums, period. Both are AAS based. This one being public is filled with a bunch of high school -esque little girls who kick someone out of their little group because they didn't wear makeup one day.
Ah... got it
1) your not defending your review
2) your not defending a service you used

Your defending a right for a rep to have status here...?
Yeah doesnt make any sense man. Literally none.
Think about that before you type any more bullshit

And to bring back the shit storm, and my EXACT POINT that there is an "inner circle" of fuckers on meso. Here ya go.

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Sure hope thats not a PM you just posted in the open.
 
I told you... Slippery slope you were on.

You're making yourself look like a fool. All for a rep of a half assed lab.
Interesting is all I have to say. A term you coined here.

"Where there is smoke there is fire" I sure see a lot of smoke in there.

I'm out of this thread. Speaking with @millard now to get things squared away.
 
This is beyond a touchy subject and I'll try and explain my views as clearly as possible. I like @franchise24 . He's a fellow vet and in my career with the "chair" force I was attached to SF teams alot.
So firstly I respect anyone who's fought for our country.
Whether a rep or not.
Secondly I only skim through the underground. I occasionally post there but very little. I only went through the IA thread because it was franchise.
Third. Making a second handle was a horrible decision. I'm sure he realizes that and regrets it. I think some of the anger is from that lack of transparency.
Fourth. I've only been here a year and a half. My opinion probably means dick. And that's cool.
Fifth. As long as I've been here I've never had a friend turn rep. It's hard because I want to defend him but IA I know nothing about. And like @gr8whitetrukker said you could find yourself on a slippery slope.
Lastly I still like @franchise24 . I think he handled it wrong but he's a grown ass man and can handle it how he wants.
On the subject of where he can or can't post what is the rule for reps?? If they need to stay in their own thread I don't think a double standard should apply. He needs to stay there. If there is no rule or Millard said it's cool then he can do what he wants.
All members should be treated as members. All reps treated as reps. I don't feel anyone should be allowed both. Because it can be viewed by members as a huge conflict of interest.
Like I said. I like franchise and think he's a really good dude. But he did choose to rep. And the rules followed by other reps should be followed by all. As you can see I'm trying not to piss anyone off. So many of you have had my back through all my shit. I hate seeing this go down. It's ugly for everyone.
On a lighter note have a wonderful evening ass clowns! I used my left hand to pick up a fork today!! First time since the stroke. So suk that!
 
Interesting is all I have to say. A term you coined here.

"Where there is smoke there is fire" I sure see a lot of smoke in there.

I'm out of this thread. Speaking with @millard now to get things squared away.

I'm not sure what's interesting about what I said nor do I know what it has to do with the phrase you've coined. The smoke/fire reference really didn't have anything to do with you either specifically, it was your employer I was referring to.

Fwiw, I didn't want to get involved in this thread due to the subject matter but I did because it ended up getting fucked up regardless. I respect you for serving the country, I mean that sincerely. I don't respect your decisions with regard to IA and I think you need to show respect for the board and stay in your thread... This is going to keep happening until you do. You knew it would be like this if you got exposed as a rep, and you did. It was the risk you took... Again, I'll never understand why.
 
This is beyond a touchy subject and I'll try and explain my views as clearly as possible. I like @franchise24 . He's a fellow vet and in my career with the "chair" force I was attached to SF teams alot.
So firstly I respect anyone who's fought for our country.
Whether a rep or not.
Secondly I only skim through the underground. I occasionally post there but very little. I only went through the IA thread because it was franchise.
Third. Making a second handle was a horrible decision. I'm sure he realizes that and regrets it. I think some of the anger is from that lack of transparency.
Fourth. I've only been here a year and a half. My opinion probably means dick. And that's cool.
Fifth. As long as I've been here I've never had a friend turn rep. It's hard because I want to defend him but IA I know nothing about. And like @gr8whitetrukker said you could find yourself on a slippery slope.
Lastly I still like @franchise24 . I think he handled it wrong but he's a grown ass man and can handle it how he wants.
On the subject of where he can or can't post what is the rule for reps?? If they need to stay in their own thread I don't think a double standard should apply. He needs to stay there. If there is no rule or Millard said it's cool then he can do what he wants.
All members should be treated as members. All reps treated as reps. I don't feel anyone should be allowed both. Because it can be viewed by members as a huge conflict of interest.
Like I said. I like franchise and think he's a really good dude. But he did choose to rep. And the rules followed by other reps should be followed by all. As you can see I'm trying not to piss anyone off. So many of you have had my back through all my shit. I hate seeing this go down. It's ugly for everyone.
On a lighter note have a wonderful evening ass clowns! I used my left hand to pick up a fork today!! First time since the stroke. So suk that!
I believe it has been settled. I will no longer post in any thread that isn't IA related. Friendships I've made I can continue to speak with them via pm. So I still can share some things I'm learning from a great Powerlifting coach.

For those that served I will pm you on our special days.

Outside of that take care. I honestly have no regrets other than being able to offer help and advice on powerlifting. But I can always shoot that via pm. I should have a rep tag by my handle soon.
 
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