fucking dnp

[LonelyDrug]

srsly this drug is shit

im having cancer side effect and no weight loss

fuck that shit

 

[Rook2135]

Im driving 5 hrs to LA so will be back to dispell bullshit.

Btw have you guys considered the potential benefits of DNP not only in fat loss but also in boosting your immune system. Also the studies done on DNP to counteract Alzhimers. In the studies DNP has been shown effective at breaking down tau protein which is the plack that builds in the brain with Alzhimers. There needs to be more studies but theres data nontheless.

 

[Yomane]

I felt safer on low dose DNP than I did on clen, yet the same people who shit on DNP recommend clen like it's a safer alternative. Overdosing on any potent substance will yield the same result. The same would happen if you don't respect stimulants. It's just that DNP is much more effective.

 

[Dr JIM]

Easily controlled?
That's a matter of perspective when one considers the fact the weight loos is TEMPORARY and many other means are available as baritric agents wo all the adverse effects that are trite to DNP use.

DNP is just more of the same, using a drug as a substitute to remedy what for many is a life long struggle with obesity.

And just like every other remedy of this nature it fixes NOTHING.

Finally to suggest a drug with such a narrow therapeutic index (for poisonous compounds its referred to as an LD-50) can be used safely, overlooks the very reason this compound is a now registered Poision.

The point instead of feeding the notion DNP can be used as a weight loss agent, the emphasis should be placed on how we can legitimately help those who are inquiring about this junk.

That starts with an appropriate dietary and exercise regimine and ends with the long term solution, the REQUIRED lifestyle change.

Also know this, each "therapeutic" failure experienced by those with obesity only exacerbates their feelings
of ineptitude, self doubt and depression. So DNP only WORSENS these folk long term prognosis, with very few exceptions IMO.

 

[MrRippedZilla]

Im driving 5 hrs to LA so will be back to dispell bullshit.

Btw have you guys considered the potential benefits of DNP not only in fat loss but also in boosting your immune system. Also the studies done on DNP to counteract Alzhimers. In the studies DNP has been shown effective at breaking down tau protein which is the plack that builds in the brain with Alzhimers. There needs to be more studies but theres data nontheless.

I'm as pro-dnp as anyone but no, it does NOT boost the immune system in the doses we're dealing with here - in fact I suspect it would be the exact opposite (though we really lack sufficient data to conclude anything with regards to its effect on the immune system as a whole).
DNP activates AMPK, which is linked to a weakened immune system and partially explains some of the less severe side effects that come with DNP use:
"Present data demonstrate for the first time that the activation of AMPK, in states of low cellular energy charge (such as under high levels of 5'-AMP) or
other signals, could be a factor contributing to reduce the host defense mechanisms." - Stimulators of AMP-activated protein kinase inhibit the respiratory burst in human neutrophils. - PubMed - NCBI

As for Alzheimer's...now that is an interesting area
Novel neuroprotective, neuritogenic and anti-amyloidogenic properties of 2,4-dinitrophenol: the gentle face of Janus. - PubMed - NCBI

"Based on its favorable properties, we suggest that DNP could be used as a lead compound for the development of novel therapeutic approaches for Alzheimer’s disease (AD) and other still untreatable neurodegenerative diseases as well as for some acute neurological disorders.
...mild uncoupling induced by low doses of DNP may actually be beneficial in terms of reducing oxidative neuronal damage in different pathological conditions.
Neurite dystrophy is a characteristic pathological finding in AD brains...We recently showed that low concentrations of DNP (20 mM) promote neurite outgrowth in cultured hippocampal and cortical neurons, and induce neuronal differentiation in a neuroblastoma cell line...Thus, one of the mechanisms by which DNP protects neurons in culture from amyloid toxicity may be related to the increase in levels of tau and, ultimately, neurite stabilization and outgrowth.
Taken together, the effects of DNP in the prevention of neurotoxicity and aggregation of b-amyloid, promotion of neurite outgrowth and neuronal differentiation reviewed above (Fig. 1) suggest that DNP should be explored as a lead compound for the development of novel therapeutic approaches for AD and, possibly, for other devastating and as yet incurable neurological disorders."

I hope you don't think I'm picking on you or anything lol, It's just that I'd rather respond to those willing to learn (as you certainly appear to be) rather than the close minded BS that usually fills these threads

 

[Dr JIM]

For those reasons alone and from a purely evidence based medical perspective, it's absolutely impossible for me to justify the use of DNP!

And IMO we are not helping anyone by offering advice on how to use this
compound "safely".

If there's evidence to the contrary I'd love to review it.

Jim

 

[GearGodess]

For those reasons alone and from a purely evidence based medical perspective, it's absolutely impossible for me to justify the use of DNP!

And IMO we are not helping anyone by offering advice on how to use this
compound "safely".

If there's evidence to the contrary I'd love to review it.

Jim

And you are absolutely entitled to your opinion. Dnp isn't for everyone. And those who choose to use it should learn as much as they can about it before making that decision.

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[D-max]

I think it far wiser to educate and advise safe use rather than it just be the elephant in the corner. Good or bad, people are going to use it, why not do what we can to make sure they have good information from people who have used it successfully rather than let them play a guessing game and tell them not to do it?

How many times does someone "too young" for aas come here and simply get blasted for how stupid and reckless they are for even wanting to try it? Does this stop them?

I think it's far better to educate and advise proper use with a caveat of the dangers than to just start flaming away.

 

[Gronk87]

It's funny, I liken the people who scream the loudest about dnp being poison, explosive, etc., to the same mentality of those against aas usage because it'll kill you, cause roid rage etc. Uneducated and just regurgitating what others who were uneducated said.

DNP gave me severe painful hives and peripheral neuropathy that made walking feel like I was walking on coals 24/7 on 200mg/day for only 11 days of Dinitro's caps but by all means continue to pass off your anecdotal personal evidence and experience as fact

 

[D-max]

DNP gave me severe painful hives and peripheral neuropathy that made walking feel like I was walking on coals 24/7 on 200mg/day for only 11 days of Dinitro's caps but by all means continue to pass off your anecdotal personal evidence and experience as fact

Did you treat it?

If my personal experience and evidence can't be passed off as fact, then neither can yours.

 

[Gronk87]

Did you treat it?

Yes of course, full prednisone pack for the hives after the Benadryl stopped helping and time is the only healer of the PN. Luckily it was short lived for me compared to others I have read. Would not wish it on anyone, insanely uncomfortable. Like someone spilled boiling water on my feet if I got up to walk around.

 

[Gronk87]

I think you can also take lyrica for PN but mine became bearable quick enough for me to not consider that

 

[Gronk87]

Did you treat it?

If my personal experience and evidence can't be passed off as fact, then neither can yours.

Nice edit, and I'm not saying it can. Not a very strong argument there though, D-Max. Consider that the drug may have some more harmful side effects that some may indeed experience that you never had to. There are plenty of examples throughout the internet.

 

[GearGodess]

DNP gave me severe painful hives and peripheral neuropathy that made walking feel like I was walking on coals 24/7 on 200mg/day for only 11 days of Dinitro's caps but by all means continue to pass off your anecdotal personal evidence and experience as fact

Ironically enough Dinitro must be selling something else or laced with something worse as there have been numerous people with unusual nasty sides that are not dnp related. So you may have had that same batch. At least from what I've seen experienced dnp users talk about recently on many boards and occasions.

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[Gronk87]

The difference between my experience and yours is that you are claiming since you are fine, and many many others are fine, then everyone will be fine. While I on the other hand am simply claiming some might not be fine, and they should be aware of that risk. That sounds a lot more reasonable than your stance doesn't it? You have 3 doctorates surely you can follow some simple logic. I'm not a DNP fearmongerer but I would never suggest anyone to take it.

 

[D-max]

Nice edit, and I'm not saying it can. Not a very strong argument there though, D-Max. Consider that the drug may have some more harmful side effects that some may indeed experience that you never had to. There are plenty of examples throughout the internet.

My edit was made within 1 minute of me posting my friend, and before your reply was.

 

[Gronk87]

Ironically enough Dinitro must be selling something else or laced with something worse as there have been numerous people with unusual nasty sides that are not dnp related. So you may have had that same batch. At least from what I've seen experienced dnp users talk about recently on many boards and occasions.

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Can you provide any links? As far as I know Dinitro is the most well respected DNP source on the web. I'd be very interested to see this.

On another note, peripheral neuropathy and hives reactions are definitely legitimate side effects of DNP use, but I wouldn't rule out the possibility of the "bad batch" theory either.

 

[Gronk87]

My edit was made within 1 minute of me posting my friend, and before your reply was.

Okay?

 

[D-max]

On a side note, anyone here seen the side effects of Accutane? Odd with what's going on with that poison, it's embraced and recommended all the time here. I'd say it's way worse, but there's no anti-Accutane lynch mob.

 

[GearGodess]

Can you provide any links? As far as I know Dinitro is the most well respected DNP source on the web. I'd be very interested to see this.

On another note, peripheral neuropathy and hives reactions are definitely legitimate side effects of DNP use, but I wouldn't rule out the possibility of the "bad batch" theory either.

Go on canmass as there are plenty of examples. Thats just one board. He may have been good in the past but at least not recently since a lot of people have been ill from it giving them unusual sides.

Again, this is from people who are very familiar with dnp and not first timers.

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[D-max]

Okay?

You said "nice edit" as if I did it unbeknownst to you.

Get it?