Gemstone Pharma/Labs US domestic Intro

I’ll tell you what it is a mother fucker to actually ship a fucking package for analysis. It should be like $1000 credit. Just saying. I’m not so sure I’ll ever be inclined to do it again unless this yields results I want to see. And $500 credit actually turns into $360 after cost incurred.
 
Did I miss all the pictures of lab equipment? I went back and didn’t see any.
Unfortunately you're not missing anything. He's managed to take away the heat from the fact he hasn't shown us any of his equipment or lab.

I might as well go ahead and say it and see how it plays out, but I requested a COD order just to test the waters on this guy and see how he'd play the situation, with the intention of sending his gear out for testing.
He responded saying the order went out on 12/5, as of right now I have heard nothing of it on informed delivery, and got a very vague response when I asked for an update via email.
It didn't cost me anything so I can't bad mouth him as a source and for all I know it could show up on Monday.

But frankly at this point I'd be pretty stupid to pin anything I receive given the lack of requests he's fulfilled for us ( lab or equipment pics), instead spending his time running a fucking jelly bean contest. Whether or not the jelly bean thing was a meme whatever but it worked perfectly to absolutely hide his denial for more detailed pics of his setup.
 
Did I miss all the pictures of lab equipment? I went back and didn’t see any.
You didn’t miss it cause it wasn’t posted.

But what you do have is his ‘word’! What more could you ask for? :rolleyes:

If something has been said enough times then people will start believing it’s proof, right?!
Let’s take for instance, the Democratic Party that’s trying to impeach the President. They haven’t shown any proof of wrong doings but yet they think they can make people believe it if they say it enough times... :oops:

OMG!! I just blew my own mind!
@Gemstone Pharma is a Democrat!! o_O

This explains everything!! :D:p:D
 
Unfortunately you're not missing anything. He's managed to take away the heat from the fact he hasn't shown us any of his equipment or lab.

I might as well go ahead and say it and see how it plays out, but I requested a COD order just to test the waters on this guy and see how he'd play the situation, with the intention of sending his gear out for testing.
He responded saying the order went out on 12/5, as of right now I have heard nothing of it on informed delivery, and got a very vague response when I asked for an update via email.
It didn't cost me anything so I can't bad mouth him as a source and for all I know it could show up on Monday.

But frankly at this point I'd be pretty stupid to pin anything I receive given the lack of requests he's fulfilled for us ( lab or equipment pics), instead spending his time running a fucking jelly bean contest. Whether or not the jelly bean thing was a meme whatever but it worked perfectly to absolutely hide his denial for more detailed pics of his setup.
Informed delivery isn’t working for me but ask for the tracking and he’ll give it to you. I check the tracking number and it’s on it’s way. He let you do COD so why not be a little more patient. If it were easy to brew and sell your own stuff everyone would be doing it. No business starts off completely smooth and perfect. Not defending this lab but some of you guys are a little ridiculous
 
Informed delivery isn’t working for me but ask for the tracking and he’ll give it to you. I check the tracking number and it’s on it’s way. He let you do COD so why not be a little more patient. If it were easy to brew and sell your own stuff everyone would be doing it. No business starts off completely smooth and perfect. Not defending this lab but some of you guys are a little ridiculous

I'm not complaining about T/A whatsoever, it's been a week. Nothing crazy at all, hence why I said "It didn't cost me anything so I can't bad mouth him as a source and for all I know it could show up on Monday.".

My greater point was his diversion from denying pictures of his equipment and lab.
 
I provided a timeline for the pictures your requesting. Maybe you missed it. Im sure if you read back a bit you'll see it. The photos will be posted no later than Sunday. Ive been under the weather.

Also interesting post i quoted below. Strange that i did you a solid sending out your pack cod, and here you are justifying ripping me off and also why would you not mention said pack instead of making me out to be a liar saying there was no proof any packs were sent out. Curious behavior...
To be perfectly fair we have no evidence of any of the COD packs being sent out in the first place. I'm not trying to call out @Gemstone Pharma but let's be real, this dude hasn't even provided us with pics of his equipment, and he expects to send out unpaid and untested gear to anonymous randoms and have good results?

Just playing the devils advocate here, if you promise to pay the man, pay the man.

I'm not complaining about T/A whatsoever, it's been a week. Nothing crazy at all, hence why I said "It didn't cost me anything so I can't bad mouth him as a source and for all I know it could show up on Monday.".

My greater point was his diversion from denying pictures of his equipment and lab.
 
I provided a timeline for the pictures your requesting. Maybe you missed it. Im sure if you read back a bit you'll see it. The photos will be posted no later than Sunday. Ive been under the weather.

Also interesting post i quoted below. Strange that i did you a solid sending out your pack cod, and here you are justifying ripping me off and also why would you not mention said pack instead of making me out to be a liar saying there was no proof any packs were sent out. Curious behavior...

Solely playing the devils advocate within the situation as I stated in the quote you posted. Pretty straight forward.
Why would I need to mention the pack to give a contrarian point of view for the sake of trying to get a logical and realistic view of the situation at hand? I never once said ripping you off was justifiable. Note how I said specifically "if you promise to pay the man, pay the man.".

On the other note, I did happen to miss the posts noting that you'd be providing the other things requested and I apologize for that. I'll be certainly looking forward to those for some peace of mind.

If you'd like to give me shit over saying this hasn't been a good look I'd love to hear why that would be an issue? Nothing you've done truly has been a good look from a vetting standpoint.
Stolen intro? check
Very little evidence of stock? Check
No images of actual equipment and processes? Check
Offers a ton of money for testing and giving free shit out? Check

Tell me how any of those examples paint you in a good light.
I solely took you up on your offer solely to see if you'd follow through, seeing as everything else has been certainly questionable thus far.
 
If it were easy to brew and sell your own stuff everyone would be doing it. No business starts off completely smooth and perfect. Not defending this lab but some of you guys are a little ridiculous
I think you mean if there wasn’t any legal issues that risk your freedom then everyone would do it. Brewing steroids isn’t rocket science.
I agree with you that no business starts off smooth and perfect. But good businesses at least have a business model to go by!

These fuckin sources of late don’t have a fuckin clue bro. We lay out the same shit in every new source thread but these guys are too lazy to read a little before showing up. It’s just easier for them to make excuse after excuse!
They come in unprepared and we as members accommodate to them. Give them advice, how to’s, and pretty much tell them how to run their OWN business! It’s pathetic!
We set standards and then when they decide to go against the standards we set in every source thread we then just sit back and let them by and accommodate to their needs and wants instead of them doing that for us!
These fucks need us way more then we need them! But when we don’t hold these sources accountable for requests that our members ask for in every single source thread, then all we’re doing is giving them the idea they can do whatever the fuck they wanna do and get by. Fuck that!

We deserve better and shouldn’t settle for anything other than the best!

@mdavid82 I responded to your post but it was a message I wanted everyone in this thread to see. Nothing personal towards you bro! :)
 
I’ll tell you what it is a mother fucker to actually ship a fucking package for analysis. It should be like $1000 credit. Just saying. I’m not so sure I’ll ever be inclined to do it again unless this yields results I want to see. And $500 credit actually turns into $360 after cost incurred.
It seriously is. Its been 2 weeks and still gojng through the process myself. Fuck!
 
Gotta wait and see what testing looks like. All the rest is silly bullshit until the gear is proven to be good.

$500 testing incentive is good.

The gear on delivery for Prissy victims was a boner idea but it did get the orders rolling.
Now we sit back and wait. I’m guessing about 17 days for results. The incentive is good. It is a lot of work. Fortunately I keep 3ml steriles on hand so I didn’t have to order that. The postal part is the real hassle. Especially with the holidays.
 
Nononsense review. Unbiased and absolutely the truth.


TA. 7 days (fair at best)

Communication-
not what I’m used to, I’m used to responsive assertive sources who typically don’t miss a beat.

Stealth
Holy fuck this needs work. Bro, if you ship on your own behalf, my response to this would be what in the actual fuck. I’ve received packs from gym buddies that were in ziploc bags before, never a source

You’re not experienced enough to have a reshipper and if for some reason you had one, FIRE HIM.

Order is as follows (paid for @ full price)

4x test Cyp 120
1x Nolvadex 15
1x proviron 25
Shipping 10

Received is as follows
2x Dbol
3x test prop
2x mast prop
2x Tren E

No I’m not kidding. I literally looked at the lady and said out loud “what the fuck” and laughed.

Here’s my nononsense review, if you want to be here dude, do better. You have a lot to learn here man. You want to stay, make some changes. The only way I’d use this source from this day forward is if those changes were made and demonstrated. You might want to demonstrate that on pack 3 being this needs replaced.


Now onto my last statement. I paid full price for an order before the change in pricing. I was told a second pack would be sent. 3 vials of choice. 3 test Cyp was the request and source agreed. I’ll call bullshit on this now instead of waiting.


Now let’s move on shall we, how do you fuck this up? That was a simple easy order laid out in a typical format that typical sources require.

@GemstonePharma, perhaps you aren’t used to this. I am a man of my word. I will, at all avenues do what I say I would do. Nononsense unbiased and no bullshit or fluff.

What a poor, weak and subpar transaction. Time to go back to school man.


Oh, PS, what in the actual fuck am I going to do with the vials that you stated are now 10 bucks a pc??? So I’ve paid 3x the price for 75mg test prop?!?

If I hear one more fucking rant about someone ripping you off, expect me to chime in.

This source has officially been vetted. Order at your own risk.

Oh, lastly. This is your shot to make what was wrong right. @Gemstonepharma, everyone fucks up, I’ll give you that inch. This bro, is by no standard acceptable. You fucked up by a mile!!

If I missed something or need to add anything that Meso would like to see PLEASE ASK, I’ll act on my word.






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I provided a timeline for the pictures your requesting. Maybe you missed it. Im sure if you read back a bit you'll see it. The photos will be posted no later than Sunday. Ive been under the weather.

Also interesting post i quoted below. Strange that i did you a solid sending out your pack cod, and here you are justifying ripping me off and also why would you not mention said pack instead of making me out to be a liar saying there was no proof any packs were sent out. Curious behavior...

Who ripped who off bro? Take a look at the review. You ought to be ashamed of this operation.
 
In the future if a customer has an issue simply email me and ill get you taken care of. That said i mentioned my first day in buisness was FAR busier than i intended. I did my best but 30 packs in one day was completely unexpected and to be completely honest it was a bit overwhelming. If i slipped and mixed an order up i apologize. Had you simply emailed me to begin with i would have taken care of this immediately. I still will rectify the situation if you reach out.

To go off the deep end defending low life scammers speaks to your credibility not my own. Because i made a mistake on 1 order i deserve to be scammed?
 
In the future if a customer has an issue simply email me and ill get you taken care of. That said i mentioned my first day in buisness was FAR busier than i intended. I did my best but 30 packs in one day was completely unexpected and to be completely honest it was a bit overwhelming. If i slipped and mixed an order up i apologize. Had you simply emailed me to begin with i would have taken care of this immediately. I still will rectify the situation if you reach out.

To go off the deep end defending low life scammers speaks to your credibility not my own. Because i made a mistake on 1 order i deserve to be scammed?
We post all good and bad on Meso. When you correct it then it is equally offset. Yes things could be done personally in email, but how do we continue to vet when we do that.

You could take a tip at this point on shipping. On the front of each box where you are going to place your label jot down what will be packaged in the order. After packing it erase it. This can be done easily with a soft lead pencil and gentle writing. And start vacuum packing and then wrapping the packs in bubble wrap.
 
In the future if a customer has an issue simply email me and ill get you taken care of. That said i mentioned my first day in buisness was FAR busier than i intended. I did my best but 30 packs in one day was completely unexpected and to be completely honest it was a bit overwhelming. If i slipped and mixed an order up i apologize. Had you simply emailed me to begin with i would have taken care of this immediately. I still will rectify the situation if you reach out.

To go off the deep end defending low life scammers speaks to your credibility not my own. Because i made a mistake on 1 order i deserve to be scammed?

Ohhhhh, I get it. So a new source that drops into Meso who’s in the midst of vetting should be done so through private email? Man I had this shit all wrong.

Oh wait....... no, I didn’t. I actually clearly stated as to the bar you’d be held to in my previous posts. Welcome to Meso.

Would like to care to speak to the Ziploc bags? Is that the “new stealth” 2.0?


How do you plan on fixing the issue for future transactions? That’s my question.


Credibility? Again, read above post. I say what I would do and followed through.

So @Gemstonepharma, what’s the next move.
 
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