MESO-Rx
Anabolic Steroids
"Generic" GH ASSAYS
- Thread starter Dr JIM
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Really the "raw data" is cited alongside EVERY SAMPLE, now who's "not reading"?
Oh and I'm also not the "only one" interested in ANY DATA you fellas have that will contradict these results!
Finally know this; Im not involved in any way involved with the testing as it is being conducted at a CERTIFIED PROTEIN ANALYSIS LAB (yep THAT'S ALL THEY DO)
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janoshik
Subscriber
That would be hundreds of hours of work with the amount of misinformations you are spreading.
Yes yes everybody who says you are bullshitter is involved with some lab. That's the best excuse you've got - an ad hominem.
Ditto as above.
And which UGL, Mr. Dr. JIM? You should know that, as you appear to be all knowing.
Or are you just gonna go around accusing people they work for UGL labs when you are unable and unwilling to answer any questions which require at least a tiny bit of expertise on the subject?
You consider that raw data? It's a shame you are claiming I am the one who is 'not reading' especially after I wrote:
' Thank you Mr. Mands, I have read it - is it all the raw data available? What about the system used? Separation method used? How it was calibrated? ' that was written by me
'All this info can be provided. I will speak to Jim about it and see if we can link it in the hyperlink on the new thread.
I know this info is all hard data and it would have to be all scanned a posted because it is not in PDF format like the analysis.' this was written by mands
so it IS OBVIOUS that there is more raw data and even mands states so.
Try shifting the burden of proof harder. That might work with others, not with me.
DickySmalls
Member
This is like when daddy was fighting with mommy.
That's what I thought more of the same BULLSHIT!
You fellas are all the same bc the only evidence YOU HAVE is a willingness to discredit that which in front of you Post any analytical data that refutes these assays or there's nothing to discuss!
Try shifting the burden of proof harder it might work with others, but not with me!
So what you are really saying, crap we are caught with our pants down bc we didn't test our products and can't prove we did!
What a shame lets see the Q and A lists you gave your resellers I bet they tell the real story.
Goes something like this
Low IGF ------ "bad testing time or lab"
low GH ------ "how long did you leave that GH out of the fridge"
You fellas are all the same bc the only evidence YOU HAVE is a willingness to discredit that which in front of you Post any analytical data that refutes these assays or there's nothing to discuss!
Try shifting the burden of proof harder it might work with others, but not with me!
So what you are really saying, crap we are caught with our pants down bc we didn't test our products and can't prove we did!
What a shame lets see the Q and A lists you gave your resellers I bet they tell the real story.
Goes something like this
Low IGF ------ "bad testing time or lab"
low GH ------ "how long did you leave that GH out of the fridge"
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How would you know. And what I'd say to both of you, is if you don't like what Dr j and mands are doing, please start you're own testing program to refute what they are doing
janoshik
Subscriber
Thank you for answering my questions on point and not being evasive at all!
Also, if I posted any data you'd just start bullshitting again about me manipulating the data or the samples being tampered with.
Again the burden of proof is not on ME to deliver anything.
The burder of proof is ON YOU to convince the member that you are
1) knowledgeable on the subject. (and this isn't done by not answering any kind of technical question anybody might have and by ad hominems)
2) that your testing is accurate as you state and have stated many times
Also good job on parroting.
How do we know you are not Barbra Streisand?
I like the project very much. Free testing for all? Sounds cool, I'm all in. If you read, you'd see I've stated that.
But are you really implying this all should go with any questioning?
Well okay, you stick to your bible, feel free to do it, but don't say others should do it as well.
Also good idea with that testing project, wish I had come up with something like that sooner.
Oh rest assured "they" are lab rats for some UGL and have a vested interest in these results!
janoshik
Subscriber
Wow, you truly are the master of editing your posts.
Good for you.
Keep on going with the story that I'm a rep.
That's all you got, because you have no arguments beside that.
GOOD LUCK with this line of BS!
Im not wasting my time "proving" anything UNTIL you cite refuting evidence!
I didn't criticize anything or anyone. I'm thankful for the testing.
I just asked a question and questions should be encouraged not discouraged.
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Are you trying to say this is a plot by mands and Dr j to get free hgh? I think that's a boss idea!
janoshik
Subscriber
Eman
Master
You're way too hostile to not have ulterior motives in this thread as far as I'm concerned.
Pretty much every post so far has been bs with an aim to discredit the testing... That's all I see and it's what I would encourage the other members to pay close attention to.
Eman
Master
Germany?
janoshik
Subscriber
No I am not, where do you see me doing that?
I have no reason to doubt integrity of Mr. Mands. He hasn't said one thing untrue that I am aware of and his acting raises no suspicion on my side - he is answering questions directly, he admits he is not all-knowing and he has good manners. He doesn't use ad hominems and is pleasure to talk with.
All unlike Dr. JIM.
Pharmacom?
I was trying to lighten the mood. You need to smoke a little cheeba sir
Great I hope you located the "raw data". Oh I have AA HPLC "chromos" on everyone of these samples but since it seemed the overwhelming majority of Meso members were only interested in the RESULTS, I didn't bother to post anymore after sample ONE.
janoshik
Subscriber
Yes, sure. I forgot I'm a rep.
Sorry about that. I'm quite tense - rude and vulgar people, avoiding questions like Dr. JIM really get me into the heat.
I TAKE REQUESTS ON WHAT TO WRITE ON A PIECE OF PAPER NEAR TO A REAL HPLC I AM AN INDEPENDENT OWNER OF. (for next 5 minutes)
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