Glute muscle infection from injection.

Great info in this. That's one thing that always worried me about pinning. The air injected into the vial before use. But that clears that up. I tend to be overly cautious and use antibacterial soap and alcohol swabs like they are going out of style. But this definitely makes me feel safer
 
I used paretto gear and it was good to go.. If he kept injecting in the same spot i am 100% shure thats why he had an infection.. Ny first ccyle of test e of newport me and my budy obly did shoulders till week 6 i coudnt cuz of he lump.: i was scared to pin glutes or any other parts.. Now i like pining tris lats chest biceps lol gota let the oil absorb before puting more and i use 4-6 swabs a pin minimum a box is 2$
 
I highly, highly doubt that the Pareto gear was the culprit. Their products are very high quality and I'd be extremely surprised if they sent out a batch of contaminated gear..

Chances are, repeated pinning of the same area is what led to the infection.
 
He's clean, I've pinned him before and seen how he takes care of it all and the site of injection.

Yea and you have no idea how often I've heard that!

I highly, highly doubt that the Pareto gear was the culprit. Their products are very high quality and I'd be extremely surprised if they sent out a batch of contaminated gear..

Chances are, repeated pinning of the same area is what led to the infection.

User technique (or lack there of) is BY FAR the leading cause of AAS infectious complications, IME.
 
1) I said: TEND to settle onto innamiate objects UNLESS your pinning in a dust storm. So why do you think I specifically mentioned DUST, or must I spell it all out for YOU!

2) But so what bacteria may cling to dust particles in the air and some of that air may gain entry into a multi-dose vial, BUT to suggest such a mechanism can increase the rate of infection IS BRO-SCIENCE and that's also a FACT!

Otherwise your nurse acquaintance would be required to FILTER air which is being injected into a multi-dose vial and I KNOW BETTER!

Unless of course you can locate scientific evidence to the contrary, NOT

Why don't you spend a little more time investigating bacterial counts in AIR and compare that to YOUR SKIN bc the former pales in comparison to the latter.

Such information's based on SCIENTIFIC FACTS and has practical applications bc SKIN FLORA is the responsible for the majority of infections related to parenterally administered drugs.
I said this before. It's that the bacteria that gets in with the air sits in there and can grow and culture if you are using a vial over and over for a long time. It may be only a small amount but it is the fact that that small ammount becomes a large ammount over time. I have said this before and it seems to be a concept beyond your ability to comprehend. This is common sense. And yes the skin need to be cleaned, the top, the syringe etc. etc. Yes those are the most important. ALL I said is don't overlook this other possible source of contamination. Thats ALL I SAID.
 
1) : TEND to settle onto innamiate objects UNLESS your pinning in a dust storm. So why do you think I specifically mentioned DUST, or must I spell it all out for YOU!

2) But so what bacteria may cling to dust particles in the air and some of that air may gain entry into a multi-dose vial, BUT to suggest such a mechanism can increase the rate of infection IS BRO-SCIENCE and that's also a FACT!

Otherwise your nurse acquaintance would be required to FILTER air which is being injected into a multi-dose vial and I KNOW BETTER!

Unless of course you can locate scientific evidence to the contrary, NOT

Why don't you spend a little more time investigating bacterial counts in AIR and compare that to YOUR SKIN bc the former pales in comparison to the latter.

Such information's based on SCIENTIFIC FACTS and has practical applications bc SKIN FLORA is the responsible for the majority of infections related to parenterally administered drugs.
You have not read my posts or are not capable of comprehending what I said. You are completely misinterpreting what I said. Read my last post. There is no point in me arguing
 
Yea so what bacteria may cling to dust particles in the air and some of that air may gain entry into a multi-dose vial, BUT to suggest such a mechanism may increase the rate of infection IS BRO-SCIENCE and that's also a FACT!

Unless of course you can locate scientific evidence to the contrary, NOT!
Never said anything about bacteria clinging to dust particals. Every single response has said that I said things I didn't. FACT: there is bacteria in the air. FACT: that small ammount of bacteria can culture in a vial over time and cause an infection. I only said that that was just ONE factor people left out I never said it was the most important or only factor. YOU people said that I said that. Don't bother responding if you aren't even intelligent enough to comprehend my posts.
 
I've had three infections in the last 20+ years. Literally thousands of pins. The only common denominator I can see is that I used a multi dose vial that had been breached for over a month. I'm very anal about sterility and quality of product. There seems to be something to the "28 day rule". Use or discard after penetration within 28 days. That comes from Hospira regarding bacteriostatic water, and it's a preservative! (0.9% benzyl alcohol)
 
I suspect there's much more to that story than what he willingly discusses on some open board, lol.
Yeah, I agree. I've been pinning 3ccs in my ass for years... I bet he reused needles or something stupid. I actually find the glute to be one of the hardest places to perform a proper injection on yourself... It's a pain to do it in a mirror, or whatever.... A lot of room for error... Stick to deltoids and quads if you're having issues with the glute.
 
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