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Try lower dose Ed? Go 2iu/2iu Ed? Idk man. U have to make the decision on what to do. Toss it? Get it tested? Your call man. Order a kit from PD see if same thing happens.
 
Try lower dose Ed? Go 2iu/2iu Ed? Idk man. U have to make the decision on what to do. Toss it? Get it tested? Your call man. Order a kit from PD see if same thing happens.
I don't want to spend more money than I already have. I don't see how lowering the dose would get rid of the pip if IM or lumps if sub q. Lowering dose would rid me of most of the bloat and cts but that's it.
 
I think there is hgh in the vials but at 8iu eod, I definitely expected to feel a little different. No improved sleep, skin is the same, I have bloat and slight cts but that's it so far.

hey bro
u run it around 10 days, how could the skin improve so fast? and plus, u see your skin all the time. its not surgery .

u get bloat and cts, it shows u feels the sides from the stuff. but as beginner, 8iu ed on my stuff is overdosed, your sides could make u feel pain in the night. and ,sleep issue could improve in one days neither, specially when u run some steroids.

i propose u reduce the dose to 4iu ed.your body could feel more comfortable.
 
hey bro
u run it around 10 days, how could the skin improve so fast? and plus, u see your skin all the time. its not surgery .

u get bloat and cts, it shows u feels the sides from the stuff. but as beginner, 8iu ed on my stuff is overdosed, your sides could make u feel pain in the night. and ,sleep issue could improve in one days neither, specially when u run some steroids.

i propose u reduce the dose to 4iu ed.your body could feel more comfortable.
I'm not doing 8iu ed, I'm doing it m/w/f. I ran a ghrp and ghrh and my sleep improved the first day of using them. I don't see how 8iu m/w/f is overdosed, if it were then I would feel harsher sides. How would reducing the dosage to 4iu make me feel more comfortable? The only thing that isn't comfortable is the pip and lumps which you're yet to comment on. The cts and bloat is nothing, I get worse hand pains from clen and worse bloat from 250mg test.

I'm not trying to bash you or your product, I'm reporting my usage and experience with your product and communicating with others who are also using it.
 
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If that were even an option, I think everyone would have done it in the first place lol. I just couldn't justify spending that amount of money, even if I had a good amount saved up. I'm a tight bastard haha.
I agree it's pricey as fuck. But considering the latest uncertainty with the grey tops. I've decided I'm not gonna bother wasting time or money on generics. You get what you pay for when choosing Pharm.
 
I agree it's pricey as fuck. But considering the latest uncertainty with the grey tops. I've decided I'm not gonna bother wasting time or money on generics. You get what you pay for when choosing Pharm.
If I have no luck with generics then I'll just drop hgh entirely. Sure you get what you pay for with pharm but the price is definitely over the top.
 
I don't want to spend more money than I already have. I don't see how lowering the dose would get rid of the pip if IM or lumps if sub q. Lowering dose would rid me of most of the bloat and cts but that's it.

Your not lowering the dose. If your taking 8 eod 4 Ed is same iu. It may be too much product for ur body in one shot. You never know till u try
 
Your not lowering the dose. If your taking 8 eod 4 Ed is same iu. It may be too much product for ur body in one shot. You never know till u try
I use over a ml each aas shot. The ONLY reason I would have more pip from a larger hgh IM shot is if there was a reaction to what was inside the vial.
 
I don't agree with your protocol at all. Seems to me your on a roller coaster doing eod.
You don't have to agree. I've done a lot of research and know many people who have gotten better results from doing m/w/f. There is also no desensitization or problems with insulin sensitivity long-term if you're off longer than you're on each week. I'm not going to sit here and explain why I'm doing m/w/f, you can research it yourself.
 
You don't have to agree. I've done a lot of research and know many people who have gotten better results from doing m/w/f. There is also no desensitization or problems with insulin sensitivity long-term if you're off longer than you're on each week. I'm not going to sit here and explain why I'm doing m/w/f, you can research it yourself.

Then stop bitching about pip and bumps. Your asking for advice but don't wanna take it.
 
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