Big Ben , if you don't mind I would like to offer my two cents on why I used this brand new guy , when I already knew where to get legit gear without any problems.
Firstly, when I got the chance to personally speak with Hercules even after reading the first ten pages of the thread and watching him not duck one question, I could tell that this was a man that was proud of his product and was wanting to stay around awhile. While his products are limited I took a chance.
Really, what is a hundred dollars to test gear out ? If I find a great source than all is gravy and with his prices and the 20ml vials at such an excellent price I felt the push to try.
As a long time lurker and someone who has tried different sources and talked to a many of reps of companies you get this second sense of weeding out the fakes and the shills.
I have been pleased with the quality of the gear no doubt. Not the best I have ever done but for the price it can't be beat.
Listen, I think herc is doing a fine job. Some of the guys I spend a little of each day here with are to date all happy. You, also, sound like a decent and reasonable person.
I have to say, with no disrespect intended, that I believe you're stretching the truth or just plain making up a story to perhaps stroke and be in the good graces of the dope man they have access to.
Drug dealers have people stroking them all day every day. People that are thrilled to do your laundry or landscaping just to be able to be around when the man fills the pipes. To become one of the guys that will run and make deliveries of different sizes around town so he can be apart of the fast life. He's allotted a certain amount of dope and can be certain he'll be high while working and is proud and he works harder at this job than at any other in his life.
The equivalent to the persons I described in the above paragraph in the world of an online steroid dealer is a reshipper. He is given stock of the ugl's products. The boss also has a select group that runs to different MG and WU spots around the area payment is sent.
Once payment is received, the ok to ship with name and addy is emailed to the re-shipper in a different location who then packs up orders labels and ships. Hopefully the boss has some sense and has his re-shippers generate labels in a safe location, usually the reshippers home. USPS Priority mail with its one price if it fits it ships thing it makes everything nice a tidy. No face to face dealings with the post office folks some of which are nosy as fuck and even more bored,
They watch and remember people coming in 3 times a week shipping a large number of packs. The nosy employee asks every time it's your turn to step up to the counter with your priority boxes to ship if the boxes contain anything potentially hazardous, liquid , perfume or lithium batteries. You of course say "no".
Now, the odds say that at some point, no matter how well the reshipper packs up those vials full of oil that a vial or 2 is going to break or the metal crimp holding the stopper in place is going to leak. Ever seen how a cardboard box looks with 10 or 20ml soaking through? It looks like the shipper when answering the standard questions presented to all lied for some reason? The ball has begun rolling and is picking up speed.
By printing your own labels and postage you avoid worrying about how nervous you looked on camera shipping those oil filled vials of those DEA scheduled drugs and committing Federal Crimes in succession.
The US Postmaster has people trained especially to recognize these things. When the DEA and FBI come, you can bet whatever they haven't seized that riding shotgun in that gov'r owned Charger with the FBI lame is a US Postmaster.
Back to why I know your post as to why a vet such as yourself would use a brand new lab on a wide open board without any members having even completed one cycle? It's because I'm one of the real vets and longtime members of the community. There are others here too...several. Our intelligence and apparent lack of logic would and should be questioned if we were on a huge wide open board using sources that have no track record and that are snubbing their nosed at the feds. On top of that posting about how we did so.
Most of us utilize a small group of sources that have been around for years. For the most part they are private. You can't google and find a website or a board with reps and instructions on how to pay. The reps appear to be intoxicated while just stroking their supplier of drugs off repeating in post after post how wonderful the boss is. Sickening.
The sources we use have layers of security in place. You need to be clear on this. Successful criminals are apprenticed into what exactly it is they are taking on.
Someone just doesn't wake up one day and decide they're gonna be a safe cracker. Where would they start? The art is passed on down from generation to generation. There is much more involved than learning how to open that safe,,,,many motr people also. The safe cracker has to have someone with access and who is willing to, for a price provide layouts or blue prints of the establishments these safes are in. He's gotta have a guy that can disable the alarm and on down the line. That's what you call a "crew". All apreticed.
Top of the line brewers and sources are the same way. They are taught how this thing works. All the other folks involved with the best are the best at what they do. Success breeds success. I'm talking thre best and most consistent powder supply. Someone who knows the ins and outs of putting layers between themselves and the rest of the outside world. Everyone is safe and making money. One weak link and everyone risks EVERYTHING....FREEDOM and makinga living.
The other reason we stick with our guys is our health. We're consuming and injecting a large amount of this sources product into our bodies on a daily basis. Knowing that your people have a track record of quality and sterility is a wonderfully warm, confident and safe feeling that can't be expressed and understood unless you have it. How could you possibly feel completely safe and satisfied that the new guy who has recently tripled his business isn't cutting corners to ensure that he doesn't fall behind and risk seeing unhappy posts of late orders? You can't and in the scenario I presented my money is going on the guy wanting to stay paid. That's where all the smart money is going.
And finally you post that another reason and important factor in abandoning the people that have taken care of you is because you exchanged pm's or emails with the guy in charge pushing the drugs. He impressed you and you are certain that he's proud of the drugs he's pushing. I know meth dealers that take great pride in the way they bag up teeners. It's unique to the other dealers on the block. Drug dealers take it very personally when the quality of their product is brought into question.....why? They can certainly have large egos and want to be known in the drug community as having the best of whatever it is they push. But equally important(depending on the size of the ego) is the bottom line. That fast tax free money that makes them different than all the lame time clock pushing folks with 9-5's. Fuck that. A fat knot with clients that figuratively and sometimes literally sucking your dick and wanting to be your boy. That was what convinced me and the other vets that you weren't and your claim to be is burned to the ground when I put you on my knee and give you a glimpse into how shit really goes down.
