HGH VS MK 677

[UncleBuns]

What are your experiences with mk that you didn't like? I know everyone reacts to it different

Most positive report I've seen of mk677 are just anecdotal. People take it and then say it works but then they have no evidence. Do you have blood work showing a significant increase in igf-1? I'm not asking to be antagonistic. It would actually be very interesting to see someone have a significant response to it.

 

[Dr.V.P.C.]

Here in Brazil we have easy acess to blood work dosing igf1, and Yes, i have some clients that we see a substantial upgrade, even with 10mg/day,with that gh typical growth of nails and hair . Some feel even with 5mg a day.

 

[UncleBuns]

Here in Brazil we have easy acess to blood work dosing igf1, and Yes, i have some clients that we see a substantial upgrade, even with 10mg/day,with that gh typical growth of nails and hair . Some feel even with 5mg a day.

Any blood work you can show as proof? I don't believe you but would love to be proven wrong.

 

[bigead]

Mk-677 in my experience was horrible, that was a decade ago, uncontrollable hunger, weight gain it just sucked

 

[DugPrime]

Most positive report I've seen of mk677 are just anecdotal. People take it and then say it works but then they have no evidence. Do you have blood work showing a significant increase in igf-1? I'm not asking to be antagonistic. It would actually be very interesting to see someone have a significant response to it.

Someone posted it once

Thread 'Bloods on PPL MK-677'

Oct 1, 2017

Had it in both MK-677 and PPL but never here where should have been in 1st place lol

All details you can check in MK-677 @ hgh subforum (NEW ONE CAUSE SOMEBODY BUMPED AN OLD ONE AND I CBA WITH LINKS NOW)
Sorry for language my lab only supports our local one if you need anything explained PM or ask...
IGF-1 is in english so anyway
Numbers are in numbers so anyway

• Mayne
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• Forum: Serum Blood Testing

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[AlexDavis43]

Any blood work you can show as proof? I don't believe you but would love to be proven wrong.

Someone posted it once

Thread 'Bloods on PPL MK-677'

Oct 1, 2017

Had it in both MK-677 and PPL but never here where should have been in 1st place lol

All details you can check in MK-677 @ hgh subforum (NEW ONE CAUSE SOMEBODY BUMPED AN OLD ONE AND I CBA WITH LINKS NOW)
Sorry for language my lab only supports our local one if you need anything explained PM or ask...
IGF-1 is in english so anyway
Numbers are in numbers so anyway

• Mayne
• Replies: 3
• Forum: Serum Blood Testing

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Well shit, if I'm interpreting this correctly, IGF-1 @ 609 ng/mL on 10 mg MK677 is pretty good.

I'm feeling mixed emotions of impressed and skeptical. That's more than a lot of guys get on 6 IU/d hGH.

 

[UncleBuns]

@DugPrime @AlexDavis43

Could be but seems pretty extreme. I'd have to look into that situation to make an opinion if I think it's legit or not.

 

[F41l0r1337]

Many blood tests have shown that IGF-1 levels can increase significantly. Unlike HGH, which is secreted in pulses over a few hours, IGF-1 is produced continuously over 24 hours.
this prolonged elevation of IGF-1 can lead to insulin resistance.
insulin is often required to manage blood sugar levels

The main concern you've expressed is about overstimulating the pituitary gland, which is responsible for HGH secretion. You're wondering if excessive stimulation could potentially damage the pituitary gland, similar to how the pancreas can be affected in diabetes.

 

[ve79]

Most positive report I've seen of mk677 are just anecdotal. People take it and then say it works but then they have no evidence. Do you have blood work showing a significant increase in igf-1? I'm not asking to be antagonistic. It would actually be very interesting to see someone have a significant response to it.

For sure I understand. As soon as I get blood work I will post. What is the range I should be looking for?

 

[Javier_Pwns]

From my personal experience MK677 doesn’t hold a candle to HGH. MK677 is a glorified appetite increaser and causes a boatload of water retention whereas with HGH I get better sleep, recovery, increased performance in the gym and I lean out a bit

 

[Slowww]

No contest. Hgh hands down. Mk is trash. The effects on blood glucose and insulin sensitivity compared to hgh alone are enough for me to write it off. I’ve seen mk users who become pre-diabetic in one cycle of use. Belongs in the trash can.

 

[Ruru_Teh_seks]

MK me donne une faim incontrôlable et une forte rétention d'eau, je préfère gh

 

[BuildABro]

So it's doing little to nothing but you are continuing to take it?

Most peptides do little to nothing in my experience. And by most I mean like 80-90% of those listed on a typical vendor price sheet.

Mostly abandoned compounds some pharma company did not want because they could not establish efficacy.

 

[MarkusLA]

GH is well tolerated and much more effective. It also has the benefit of being able to time, how much and when you dose it depending on your goals. It also causes insulin resistance and a dose-dependent manner and this can be more easily mitigated with timing of the injections.

Can you elaborate a bit on the "timing of injections". If I wanted to take a low dose of, say, 2 IU and not get diabetic, how would I do that?

 

[UncleBuns]

Can you elaborate a bit on the "timing of injections". If I wanted to take a low dose of, say, 2 IU and not get diabetic, how would I do that?

Search the forums for threads and post by @Type-IIx on GH. His content is the most accurate and thorough for this kind of information.

To summarize though the insulin resistance begins occurring 1 to 2 hours after subcutaneous injection of GH. My understanding is that if you were going to inject in the daytime you want to have a meal, preferably not a big carb meal, then inject the GH. After the injection no more food for at least 4 to 4.5 hours. Basically insulin resistance will be highest about 1 - 4 hours after injecting.

Insulin resistance is directly correlated to the number of injections daily and the total quantity used daily. The more injections you do, the more insulin resistance you can build and the more units you use the worse it will be. The safest bet to avoid insulin resistance is to have your last meal of the day at least 2 hours before sleep and then do your entire daily bolus directly before bed.

They're also drugs you can use such as metformin, berberune, and glp1 drugs that are insulin sensitizing. If you are only doing 2 it's daily though I would not worry about taking any of those.

If you are are more of the cautious type like I am, the best thing to do is to go get a blood draw to get a baseline hemoglobin A1c before you start using GH. Hemoglobin A1c tracks your average blood glucose level for a rolling 3-month. So it is an excellent way to keep track over longer periods of time. You can also get an at home finger stick blood glucose test kit. As far as insulin resistance because of GH use what's most important is morning fasted blood glucose level. You would use the home test kit first thing in the morning when you wake up before consuming anything. Do it every morning for a couple weeks to get a baseline and then continue checking after starting GH. If GH is causing significant blood go close issues the morning test will show it.