IGF-1 Blood Results: Blacktops #32

[Wunderpus]

Not at all. It's not uncommon for Bodybuilders to take multiple gear year round.

Bodybuilders who make their money off of their physique and fully understand the risks involved. You, do not. Do not be foolish by justifying the alleged actions of a few, in order to process your own drug abuse.

 

[ironwill1951]

using 15 iu of gh per day for a year is about as smart as running a couple grams a week of test for a year, no very smart or healthy.

 

[Wunderpus]

using 15 iu of gh per day for a year is about as smart as running a couple grams a week of test for a year, no very smart or healthy.

I honestly think it may be worse... Organ growth, diabetes, etc.... We shall see. But, either way, I'd rather run high test for a year than high GH if longevity was a concern.

Plus, IMO, you'd have to eat SO MUCH quality food, train hard as fuck and take a bunch of insulin to even justify that much GH. And, I use the term "justify", loosely.

 

[bmoney]

You are not mistaken, chronically elevating your endocrine IGF-1 levels is a bad idea for anyone interested in health and longevity.

Chest! Since everyone seems to react differently to dosage of GH what would you suggest as a safe IGF-1 level for long term use of GH.

I think the obvious goal would be to stay lean and maintain muscle possible grow a little bit. Maybe shorter cycles of larger doses (4ius-6ius max) then a 2-3iu maintenance dose. But this is were it gets tricky.

200-400 IGF?
400-600 IGF?
600+ IGF?

What to expect at these levels and are they safe for longer periods of time?


I respond well to GH at 4ius I’ve tested out at 563-599 depending on brand. I just lowered my dose to 3ius. To bring it down a bit.

Thanks for your time.

 

[ChestRockwell]

Chest! Since everyone seems to react differently to dosage of GH what would you suggest as a safe IGF-1 level for long term use of GH.

This falls into that category of "really tough to give a singular answer" because any time someone elevates hormone levels beyond an expected endogenous level, it can lead to very unpredictable results.

Probably the easiest answer would be to aim for IGF levels that fall within reference ranges for one's age and sex. Realize that this is still not perfect, because these can still vary somewhat widely.

 

[Deleted member 59947]

I ran 1 vial of blacks or 15iu per day for 12 days and I was taking godtropin prior to blacks.
Batch #32

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It seems that high doses of HGH could have diminishing returns in terms of IGF levels. Honestly I actually have a poor muscle building genetics and my natty testosterone and IGF levels were below average. Also the conversion of GH to IGF varies greatly in different individuals. I encourage everyone who are running 8iu+ to do IGF bloods and share your results on meso.
From now on, I'll be running 15iu eod year round.

At 10iu per day I get pounding headaches, nausea, poor sleep.
I can’t take more than 5iu/day.

15iu eod sounds like a weird dosing protocol. Even if that yields the same igf-1 levels as the same dosage spread out ed, I would think that the side effects would be lighter with ed dosing.

Or do you not get any unpleasant side effect?

 

[Roco Bama]

At 10iu per day I get pounding headaches, nausea, poor sleep.
I can’t take more than 5iu/day.

15iu eod sounds like a weird dosing protocol. Even if that yields the same igf-1 levels as the same dosage spread out ed, I would think that the side effects would be lighter with ed dosing.

Or do you not get any unpleasant side effect?

Besides water retention, I don't get unpleasant sides even when Im taking 15iu ed. I heard the EOD protocol reduces side effect which is why Im testing out 15iu eod instead of 7.5iu ed to see if it causes less water weight.

 

[fodsod]

At 10iu per day I get pounding headaches, nausea, poor sleep.
I can’t take more than 5iu/day.

15iu eod sounds like a weird dosing protocol. Even if that yields the same igf-1 levels as the same dosage spread out ed, I would think that the side effects would be lighter with ed dosing.

Or do you not get any unpleasant side effect?

15 ius a day has been disclosed by some internet/YouTube celebs as the "magic" number to open the Pandora's box of drastic muscular development and permanent gains. I don't remember the original source of this claimed protocol but it's discussed in one of Dr. Tony Huge's earlier videos by Trevor.

 

[fodsod]

Besides water retention, I don't get unpleasant sides even when Im taking 15iu ed. I heard the EOD protocol reduces side effect which is why Im testing out 15iu eod instead of 7.5iu ed to see if it causes less water weight.

When I was getting bad sides from 9iu of Serostim I went to a 18iu EOD regimen and found that it did reduce sides and did not seem to have a reduction in its effectiveness. Although I was in contest prep so fat loss and staying fuller was my primary use for the GH so I didn’t really pay attention to much else.