Injecting into a vein

[6FootFatty]

Guys, for first timers like my self (haven’t started yet), can the experienced members of this forum and of AAS use give us noobs a breakdown of what to do/expect when we inject into a vein? I think if new guys know what to expect and how to react when they do hit a vein (it’s inevitable), then the outcome will be much better in my opinion.

As one user mentioned before, “it’s not if you inject into a vein. It’s WHEN you do.”

 

[MisterSuperGod]

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3205107/

Something to consider...

 

[HIGHRISK]

Guys, for first timers like my self (haven’t started yet), can the experienced members of this forum and of AAS use give us noobs a breakdown of what to do/expect when we inject into a vein? I think if new guys know what to expect and how to react when they do hit a vein (it’s inevitable), then the outcome will be much better in my opinion.

As one user mentioned before, “it’s not if you inject into a vein. It’s WHEN you do.”

I've never heard "not if but when" you hit a vein. My wife is a nurse and gives shots daily in the same places I do mine and neither her or me have ever hit a vein. I could be wrong but unless you start wondering around your body doing shots you should be good.

 

[m314]

Just aspirate every time. If you pull back on the plunger and draw blood, withdraw the needle and try a different spot. This only happens maybe 0.1% of the time in my experience.

 

[HIGHRISK]

Just aspirate every time. If you pull back on the plunger and draw blood, withdraw the needle and try a different spot. This only happens maybe 0.1% of the time in my experience.

No need to aspirate unless your pinning a unusual area.

 

[m314]

No need to aspirate unless your pinning a unusual area.

Like quads or delts? That's where I drew straight blood when aspirating. It has only happened twice out of 2000+ injections, but it's worth the extra second of my time to just aspirate every time.

 

[HIGHRISK]

Like quads or delts? That's where I drew straight blood when aspirating. It has only happened twice out of 2000+ injections, but it's worth the extra second of my time to just aspirate every time.

quads I can understand but delts and glutes no need.

 

[anfee]

I never aspirate. It can cause more damage to the muscle and if you’re like some of us who blast nd cruise, we will pin our quad/delt/glute thousands of times over the course of our life.

I like delt and quads for ease of pinning. Quads you can use both hands.

 

[6FootFatty]

Thanks for the comments guys.

Quick question. Let’s say we aspirate, get blood in the syringe, change spots, do you inject with blood in the syringe? Won’t that cause scarring?

 

[MisterSuperGod]

Thanks for the comments guys.

Quick question. Let’s say we aspirate, get blood in the syringe, change spots, do you inject with blood in the syringe? Won’t that cause scarring?

Unless you filled the entire empty space of the barrel with aspirated blood, i wouldn't be too concerned.

 

[Eman]

It can cause more damage to the muscle

Have any literature on this?

 

[Michael Scally MD]

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3205107/

Something to consider...

Russell M, Storck A, Ainslie M. Acute respiratory distress following intravenous injection of an oil-steroid solution. Canadian Respiratory Journal : Journal of the Canadian Thoracic Society. 2011;18(4):e59-e61. Acute respiratory distress following intravenous injection of an oil-steroid solution

A case of acute respiratory distress and hypoxemia following accidental intravenous injection of an oil-steroid solution in a body builder is presented. Chest roentography at the time of presentation showed diffuse bilateral opacities, and computed tomography revealed predominantly peripheral ground-glass opacifications. The patient’s symptoms gradually improved over 48 h and imaging of the chest was unremarkable one week later. The pathophysiology, diagnosis and treatment of this rare but potentially life-threatening complication of intravenous oil injection are discussed.

 

[Dr JIM]

Guys, for first timers like my self (haven’t started yet), can the experienced members of this forum and of AAS use give us noobs a breakdown of what to do/expect when we inject into a vein? I think if new guys know what to expect and how to react when they do hit a vein (it’s inevitable), then the outcome will be much better in my opinion.

As one user mentioned before, “it’s not if you inject into a vein. It’s WHEN you do.”

Learn how to inject in medically approved areas bc that’s the most reliable means of avoiding or damaging nerves, veins, arteries
or joints.

Can someone hit a vein even though a medically approved site was used CORRECTLY, absolutely
but bc the veins are small, and readily collapse under the pressure of surrounding tissue, “extra” bleeding is all that’s noted. NBD!

 

[Dr JIM]

It can cause more damage to the muscle.

I’ve commented on this before but for starters if there’s any evidence aspiration can result in muscular damage I’ve yet to see it!

The Nebido trials outlined the importance of aspiration when large volumes of an oil based product were injected.

When in doubt ASPIRATE

And novices should always be in doubt bc their site selection and technique are suspect until proven otherwise.

 

[ludi_janez]

Dr JIM, is it possible that injecting into a vein eventually leads to pericarditis? This condition happend to me recently while on cycle

 

[Dr JIM]

Russell M, Storck A, Ainslie M. Acute respiratory distress following intravenous injection of an oil-steroid solution. Canadian Respiratory Journal : Journal of the Canadian Thoracic Society. 2011;18(4):e59-e61. Acute respiratory distress following intravenous injection of an oil-steroid solution

A case of acute respiratory distress and hypoxemia following accidental intravenous injection of an oil-steroid solution in a body builder is presented. Chest roentography at the time of presentation showed diffuse bilateral opacities, and computed tomography revealed predominantly peripheral ground-glass opacifications. The patient’s symptoms gradually improved over 48 h and imaging of the chest was unremarkable one week later. The pathophysiology, diagnosis and treatment of this rare but potentially life-threatening complication of intravenous oil injection are discussed.

The fella aspirated but did NOT follow medical protocol and suffered the consequencs of a Fat Embolism.

The point aspiration is important bc it provides a reliable means of ensuring the needle has not violated a LARGE VEIN.

And if this B.B. pinned his glutes
after a leg wo when vein caliber
is maximized it’s much easier for the local effects of AAS to morph into a systemic complication.

If blood is aspirated remove and try another site.

 

[Dr JIM]

Dr JIM, is it possible that injecting into a vein eventually leads to pericarditis? This condition happend to me recently while on cycle

Pericarditits has many causes from infections to collagen vascular diseases.

It’s also a complication, although rare, of IVDA, but solely the result of AAS entering a vein, that’s a huge leap IMO

 

[ludi_janez]

damn, this ''collagen vascular diseases'' sounds very suspicous to me. How do i test for that?
ALTHOUGH, i searched the web and found at least 5 cases of pericarditis while people were on test cycle. coincidence?

 

[anfee]

I have misspoke regarding aspirating causing more damage. I do not have any literature to back that statement.

Thank you for the correction. I’ll stop with my Bro-science lol

 

[Beano223]

I aspirate every time and never have blood in it. Some times I may nick a vein but it’s rare I cough for a few min and I’m good