Injecting testosterone subcutaneously

Discussion in 'Men's Health Forum' started by frankwhardy, Sep 30, 2005.

  1. heavyiron

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    Re: Subcutaneous testosterone injections

    Day 7 Subcutaneous Cypionate Injection.

    More of the same. Test Cyp is painless subq and at 20units/40mg I feel no oil under the skin. My shot last night was good. Zero problems. I may experiment with larger volumes =)
     
  2. heavyiron

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    The feedback I have recieved from others doing this has all been positive. This practice is not approved in some countries so it may be a while before it becomes more widespread but the evidence for its effectiveness is good.
     
  3. heavyiron

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    Day 8

    I shot another 40 units of cyp. Everything is good.
     
  4. heavyiron

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    So far so good but the real test will be seeing how much volume you can comfortably shoot. I am hoping for 1/2cc per inject at some point.
     
  5. heavyiron

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    Man, if I can tolerate larger volumes I will. In the trial they shot 1/2 cc once weekly SC, so 1/2cc sounds doable. If I shoot 1/2cc every day with cyp I can get 700mg per week which would be decent. I think what I will do next is increase the volume and shoot every other day and see how the depot feels. If the depot does not build up as a lump under the skin too bad I will go every day.


    Day 9
    20 units cyp no problems SC.
     
  6. heavyiron

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    Day 10
    30 units, 60mg subcutaneous cypionate injection. I have increased the volume 10 units to see how the depot feels. Still no problems.
     
  7. heavyiron

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    I cannot see anything unusual at the 10 injection sites around my abdomen. I can feel a very slight inflamation about the size of a dime under the skin in a few places. It is very small and only detectable when I gently press on the injection site. It is only in a couple of them and the rest are not inflamed at all. I like the protocol and will experiment with it some more.
     
  8. heavyiron

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    I skipped yesterday's administration so I could experiment with larger volumes of Cypionate. I shot 40 units/80mg subcutaneously this morning with no problems so far.
     
  9. heavyiron

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    In the first post the trial used 1/2 cc every week. Based on this I think that is a totally appropriate volume. I am still experimenting but I am guessing that's about as much as will be comfortable.

    I have been reading various methods for SC injects and it seems 3 injects a week is common with doctor recommendations but I have gone every day to see for myself. I also have been in contact with others who are using higher concentrations of aas. One patient is using 300mg/ml enanthate for his SC injections so that a larger mg can be injected with a smaller volume.
     
  10. heavyiron

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    Pinned 50 units of cypionate subcutaneously today. Largest volume so far. No problems.
     
  11. heavyiron

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    Shot another 1/2 ml today SC and all went well except for a slight burning sensation.
     
  12. heavyiron

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    The only issues I have had were slight bumps under the skin where the depot sits before dissipating.
     
  13. heavyiron

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    To be honest I prefer the IM injects because you feel like the testosterone is hitting you where the SC injects just feel like I am natural. I think for guys running HRT or older patients who want more comfortable injections SC is the way to go but for running cycles IM is better in my humble opinion.
     
  14. heavyiron

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    Ok, that was my log in 2009. In the end I decided I liked IM better than Sub C. If I do this again I will use 300mg/ml enanthate so that smaller volumes can be injected. The bumps under my skin were annoying so less volume would be desirable. This is a great method for a cruise or female application.
     
  15. heavyiron

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    BTW, I just finished a run with tren Ace Subc. No Tren cough for the first time ever. YAY!
     
  16. heavyiron

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    Here is another abstract showing normal serum levels administering testosterone subcutaneously.

    Saudi Med J. 2006 Dec;27(12):1843-6.

    Subcutaneous administration of testosterone. A pilot study report.

    Al-Futaisi AM, Al-Zakwani IS, Almahrezi AM, Morris D.
    Department of Medicine, College of Medicine & Health Sciences, Sultan Qaboos University, Muscat, Oman. alfutaisi@squ.edu.om

    Abstract

    OBJECTIVE: To investigate the effect of low doses of subcutaneous testosterone in hypogonadal men since the intramuscular route, which is the most widely used form of testosterone replacement therapy, is inconvenient to many patients.

    METHODS: All men with primary and secondary hypogonadism attending the reproductive endocrine clinic at Royal Victoria Hospital, Monteral, Quebec, Canada, were invited to participate in the study. Subjects were enrolled from January 2002 till December 2002. Patients were asked to self-administer weekly low doses of testosterone enanthate using 0.5 ml insulin syringe.

    RESULTS: A total of 22 patients were enrolled in the study. The mean trough was 14.48 +/- 3.14 nmol/L and peak total testosterone was 21.65 +/- 7.32 nmol/L. For the free testosterone the average trough was 59.94 +/- 20.60 pmol/L and the peak was 85.17 +/- 32.88 pmol/L. All of the patients delivered testosterone with ease and no local reactions were reported.

    CONCLUSION: Therapy with weekly subcutaneous testosterone produced serum levels that were within the normal range in 100% of patients for both peak and trough levels. This is the first report, which demonstrated the efficacy of delivering weekly testosterone using this cheap, safe, and less painful subcutaneous route.

    PMID: 17143361 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
     
  17. PMAN

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    i have test prop and just tried my first sub q injection, I was reluctant thinking the syringe would be hard to load, to my surprise it seemed to load into my sub q easier then my im, I think because I just pulled the plunger down and let the air pressure I injected do the rest

    my first injection was only 25 mg thinking it would be tough getting more under my skin, it was a snap

    I might do twice a day 4 days a week to get to 200 mg, combined with some test cream I am trying to get to the equivalent of 400 mg a week, any input here on changing my dosing?
     
  18. RootBeer

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    I have tested the sub-q route with trenbolone and, for me, it wasn't a pleasent experience. Just to get a feel for it, I injected .3 ml into my waist area. First day, no problems at all. Second day, got a little red but not too bad. Third day, a red spot the size of a half-dollar appeared and also felt a lump under the skin. Fourth day, the redness had expanded and the lump was more pronounced. And let me tell you, it felt like a deep bruise by then. By the way, I still have a lump 2 weeks later. Never again will I inject a steroid sub-q.

    Just wondering though, what causes the redness and lump? The oil itself? The hormone?

    And what is the body's reaction to this substance that causes these symptoms?
     
  19. heavyiron

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    1/2 ml of oil volume seems to be the standard volume in the abstracts. I have since used slightly larger volumes but 0.5ml or less is a good volume to use to avoid problems.
     
  20. heavyiron

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    There will be a depot of oil that disipates over time. Your body will absorb the hormone in most cases.