is a mask a sign of a coward or a cry for attention?

[hudson98]

Ya all should stop deca and tren, your synapses are firing less than a wet stick of butter.

I think your synapses are firing a little slow, or your just a sheep.

you mention stats

the stats say I have basically a zero percent chance of dying of "covid"

so assume it is actually some strange variation of food that makes fatties not taste their food, why should I be concerned about it?

 

[hudson98]

The mask shows now retarded our world is. Look, I wear a mask, but I wear an n95 or above and it fits and I only reuse it a couple times then I open a new one. If you do it that way, the mask can protect you. But nobody does that.

These idiots still walk around with blue surgical masks (which are absolutely worthless), with their noses sticking out. All summer I saw these clowns walking around. Imagine not understanding germ theory (agree with the theory or not, it doesn't matter. It's taught in schools and it's easily a common sense approach and not hard to understand). But imagine not understanding germ theory and you're still wearing a loose fitting moldy mask on the street?

These people are so dumb that they think this protects them or contributes to some net positive for the world. It doesn't work like that.

I think wearing a mask in any other way than I described earlier, is a sign of true stupidity.

I agree with you on most points, but why would you wear a mask in the first place at all? I only wore one when forced to and I wore the most comfortable one possible since wearing it served no purpose other than to get into a building. id let my nose pop out too,

 

[hudson98]

Additionally, just to give some food for thought regarding if we ALL actually did the same for ones and stopped acting like children, and of course the investment was there.

Antibiotics are extremely overused today, this we can all agree on. However, did you know that if ALL took a common set of antibiotics such as a Azithromycin, ceftriaxone, and just for security doxycycline for a week and abstained from sex two weeks, we would almost eliminate the most common STDs in the entire world, including many other diseases?

Same if we did it with Covid, if ALL did it we wouldn't have (or most likely not have depending on time-frame between vaccinations) mutations which in theory could become extremely deadly.

Since we are not unified, we get mutations and we have gotten mutations. HIV is believed to come from a chimpanzee. One bastard get sick and don't care, believing it's a hoax, it won't run bad, it's only me, now HIV kills millions. Just because death wasn't there then, doesn't mean it won't be later...

why would we all be unified?

if your goal is to wipe out STD by mandating everyone take drugs, no one is obliged to agree or care about your goal. I would not comply. people who are married would not comply.

you want a utopia where everyone is unified and works towards a common cause? first, thats not possible. second, its stupid. I want the freedom to not give a fuck about your cause (covid) and care about whats important to me. freedom to no oblige with silly proposals like having everyone on meds to prevent covid and STD

 

[Hayes88]

why would we all be unified?

if your goal is to wipe out STD by mandating everyone take drugs, no one is obliged to agree or care about your goal. I would not comply. people who are married would not comply.

you want a utopia where everyone is unified and works towards a common cause? first, thats not possible. second, its stupid. I want the freedom to not give a fuck about your cause (covid) and care about whats important to me. freedom to no oblige with silly proposals like having everyone on meds to prevent covid and STD

The idea was not to demand a unified drug use, it was an example what a unified common cause can do to elimiate something that hurts millions, or can in the future kill millions. I fully understand that way too many will never do that, but these topics are the same as with every single world/ country-wide decision.

Doesn't matter if it's war, racism, feminism, flat earthers, Covid or anything similar. Choices affect and in these things it affects the overall population either directly or indirectly, meaning your choice to not comply because you feel it's stupid (while it's your choice) does not only affect you, it affects all. Even in smaller cases it affects your kids and friends who believe you because they love you (most often not because they make their own decision, they base it on yours) and then that spreads.

Medical is the sole place we should be unified. F*ck the government, but at least support those saving us.

We cannot of course take responsibility for everyone, that is unrealistic, but we cannot base world-order by arrogance either just because someone wants to be "free". Freedom is an illusion, voting is an illusion, we have the freedom we are "allowed" to have, that is not freedom.
Total freedom would be anarchy and that would lead to civil war, has already
been tried in history.

However, free voices are needed like yours and everyone else in here regardless if I or someone else agrees or not, since that affects equally things positive. I recommend to read the book Noise (unbiased), it's extremely interesting (but complicated read) regarding how we base our judgement/ opinions.

 

[Inspired]

I agree with you on most points, but why would you wear a mask in the first place at all? I only wore one when forced to and I wore the most comfortable one possible since wearing it served no purpose other than to get into a building. id let my nose pop out too,

I can write a lot about this. I'll keep it simple. They intentionally released a bioweapon and they injected people with that bioweapon. We know those injected are spreading it. I think it's critical to reduce exposure to whatever they are putting out. Luckily for me, I can avoid most of this, but I know most people aren't able to avoid these people. I don't wear the mask a lot but when I go out, I do.

Most idiots wearing the mask have no idea nor do they care about protecting themselves from a bioweapon. They aren't wearing masks for that. They are simply sheep, with no deeper understanding of anything. That's proven now.

Tried to read through the 80% "are you dumb" and the 20% of opinions/ facts that actually lead somewhere in a discussion.

I see a pattern that we paint a very detailed picture with extremely broad strokes here. Covid 19 was not a hoax and the vaccine was not a hoax, but we (the people, not the government) made it a hoax. You involve enough people in anything and we get a group who needs to do/ think the opposite, and unfortunately, those screaming loud enough will get followers. Now we involved the entire world, that will gain some traction (confirmation bias and group identity, nothing new).

Now some of you might have been lucky who didn't get family members or friends dying of Covid, but it was very much real for some. However, I don't personally like using death as an argument since that can be applied to anything and is impossible to debate fairly. Similar to -"My child died of a reaction to the vaccine", Answer: "Yeah, tough luck, it saved a thousand". That is a horrible discussion topic. Lesser evil so to speak.
Making people homeless due to the economy would be a stronger argument for the anti-people, but to each their own.

First it was a problem some made money out of Covid, who the F cares? It won't affect you. The same companies are saving millions, they need that cash even if someone get to ride a lambo to work for it... Then we got masks was a lie and while that is true in some sense since as above, most masks were/ are not genuinely made, those who did use the correct mask correctly saved more.
Masks protected against several other diseases together with alco-gel since we stopped touching everything all the time. Just ride a bus and you see how disgusting people are....

We had so few deaths because some (most) set aside their pride and did it for others. In the end it became almost forced since many places wouldn't let you work, travel or go out if you didn't have your dose (great imo), that saved even more. The argument that the vaccine didn't work needs to read more, it was never the plan to eliminate Covid. We had no clue how dangerous covid could have been, we know today, but we cannot take a chance when the entire world is at stake.
In other words, "Only xxx died and xxx lived, it's a lie" is a crappy argument, you cannot run a country like that, professionals are running pre-calculated data and worst-case-scenario to SAVE. If you think that isn't valid, please never attempt to run your own company (same basis).

Just because you got a covid common cold and didn't vaccinate yourself doesn't mean the threat wasn't real. The vaccine debate has been going on each and everytime throughout history, even Polio had the same debate if some of you are old enough to remember that, or the read is there. Vaccines are horrible, but feel free to pop antibiotics like mentos, that won't have consequences... Most are safe because some did the right thing, most survived regardless since Covid was indeed not as life-threatening as it could have been. Still doesn't mean restrictions and demands wasn't warranted AT THE BEGINNING.

Unfortunately, scared people and misinformation made it ridiculous, dumb, and a lie in the end. Here I agree. We are done, at least until it may mutate further, no need to live in fear anymore. But it did reset the world a little, make us connect more, and brought some of nature back, so it did bring some positivity. Unfortunately, some battle with getting back on their feet and I truly wish them the best, regardless if it is missing someone they love or being able to have roof over their heads.

It's clear that you've never done any investigation whatsoever into the "vaccine" or anything else you just wrote about. You don't know anything. You have to start reading. Your tangent is nothing but a mix of government propaganda and personal cope that you made for yourself. Life cannot be successfully lived through at the superficial level of this modern era. Start reading the studies, the documents, some books. Read. The answers are there.

 

[Inspired]

why would we all be unified?

if your goal is to wipe out STD by mandating everyone take drugs, no one is obliged to agree or care about your goal. I would not comply. people who are married would not comply.

you want a utopia where everyone is unified and works towards a common cause? first, thats not possible. second, its stupid. I want the freedom to not give a fuck about your cause (covid) and care about whats important to me. freedom to no oblige with silly proposals like having everyone on meds to prevent covid and STD

None of these proposals actually work. The covid-19 "vaccine" was never gong to stop transmission of the virus. It was never going to help. I knew this from before the pandemic. I knew this at the start of the pandemic. I have well over 5gb of coronaviruses papers. I've read them all. I knew that any "vaccine" was going to be a weapon against the people because you cannot vaccine against airborne respiratory viruses, specifically Corona viruses, and all the vaccine development in all laboratories showed consistently that any vaccination attempt against coronaviruses would guarantee a worse outcome or death. The animals were harmed or killed more by the vaccine than the actual disease, so why would the governments force everyone to get it when that evidence was clear? It's for depopulation and it's to edit your DNA in ways we won't be able to know yet because they did a damn good job of hiding the mechanisms.

It's not a situation where we can discuss morality or ethics. The fact is that it was never going to do what they promised and that was clear to anyone who took even 10 minutes to read anything about the situation outside of mainstream media. The answers were always in plain view. People are dumb as fuck and do not read.

 

[MFAAS]

I can't believe how many people are so judgemental about masks.

All I have to say is: do you really enjoy getting colds or flus or being sick?

I don't like being sick. It fucking sucks. Last time I got sick I got Influenza B and was out of work for 3 days and felt like a fucking piece of trash for over a week. I was out of lifting for almost 2 weeks.

If wearing a quality mask over my mouth and nose when I go into public places will prevent that, then I am all for it.

Y'all do whatever you want. I don't care if others wear masks. I do it because, as I said, I don't like getting sick. It sucks ass.

The vaccine--I haven't been getting it. I wear a mask and all that. I do think COVID is a fucking awful virus. Likely created in a lab. I won't say I know anything about the vaccine. All I know is that if it doesn't help stop the spread I am not gonna get it.

 

[Norse13]

I remember before the fake pandemic, when the hype machine was ramping up, I could see who was a sheep because they started wearing masks. then everyone was forced to and complied without question.

now 2 years after the so called "pandemic" I see people still wearing them. why?

a cry for attention?
they are actually scared of a cold?
they are ugly?
they are brainwashed?
they are germaphobes aka mentally ill?

My aunt is 76 years old and occasionally wears mask in crowded placed. I'll let her know that some random guy on the internet from the other side of the planet writes that its not necessary. You never know, she may change her mind. Or maybe she don't give a fuck. I suppose her reason is #2 on your list.

 

[GuerillaPete]

My aunt is 76 years old and occasionally wears mask in crowded placed. I'll let her know that some random guy on the internet from the other side of the planet writes that its not necessary. You never know, she may change her mind. Or maybe she don't give a fuck. I suppose her reason is #2 on your list.

I agree we should not be to judgmental some people are sick with the flu and are wearing a mask to not spread the disease while they need to be in public.
Mask wearing people range from bat shit crazy manipulated sheep to people who are sick or have weak immune system and need it in public.

 

[Hayes88]

Gotta say that MFAAS was the best opinion here so far, it didn't even mention Covid, yet made a lot of sense for us all haha.

So back on the topic of Covid and as mentioned mainstream data. While I don't agree at all that "side" studies trump e.g. WHO (regardless what someone might think if the government influence), it simply gives us two choices in future events.

1) Screw the medical data, since government influenced data will surface first most likely regardless if they created the virus or not. At least to a degree that it will be visible to the majority of people. That means half of the population (if we base it on most vaccine debates) takes a risk and wait for potential future data (no vaccine). In this span of time if they were right we are all fine and the vaccinated people may or may not have DNA altered. Which is a funny topic since we mutate and alter our DNA/ Cells everyday regardless if we willingly consume/ breath something or not. If they were wrong, we now have death and new strains that will hurt or kill people world-wide for years to come. Love those odds...

2) We take our chances and believe that the people we have placed in power actually know what they are doing compared to us who reads biased or unbiased documentation from Von Snickers Titties who made a study on 1000 people and 6 different animals (animals die in all meds or cosmetics we create) in Germany a year after the event. If we were wrong, people live, if we were right, people live. Regardless, no mutations of said virus if doses are taken correctly. Even if it didn't work, mutation would happen regardless.

We cannot in one moment go "911, my daughter is sick, help her!" and in the next "f'ck the hospitals and their conspiracy plans". If the government would do the same to us, we would have "I need help, my daughter is dying"... "Well, someone elses daughter died because you wanted to be free, so tough luck".

Somewhere we gotta compromise wrong or not wrong. Doesn't matter if it was the vaccine or just the plain mask use. If you want to be free and also scream screw the system, then you cannot simultaneously call the system for help when it's convenient. That is being a leech on society.

The same debate would be, should we pay taxes? We know 90% goes on crap we don't care about, but we still do it for the greater good, to compromise to society. Or a simpler issue, I have a hernia and don't need to give my spot to an old lady on the bus, me standing up increases the risk of me falling and in that hurting myself and in that cannot provide for my family. We compromise wrong or not.
If I look on the data, standing up would be a horrible choice for me.

 

[Hightower]

I can't believe how many people are so judgemental about masks.

All I have to say is: do you really enjoy getting colds or flus or being sick?

I don't like being sick. It fucking sucks. Last time I got sick I got Influenza B and was out of work for 3 days and felt like a fucking piece of trash for over a week. I was out of lifting for almost 2 weeks.

If wearing a quality mask over my mouth and nose when I go into public places will prevent that, then I am all for it.

Y'all do whatever you want. I don't care if others wear masks. I do it because, as I said, I don't like getting sick. It sucks ass.

The vaccine--I haven't been getting it. I wear a mask and all that. I do think COVID is a fucking awful virus. Likely created in a lab. I won't say I know anything about the vaccine. All I know is that if it doesn't help stop the spread I am not gonna get it.

Very true words, most importantly healthy. I agree that we cannot know how it really is, but no one has canceled the usual measures of predisposition.

 

[Hightower]

My aunt is 76 years old and occasionally wears mask in crowded placed. I'll let her know that some random guy on the internet from the other side of the planet writes that its not necessary. You never know, she may change her mind. Or maybe she don't give a fuck. I suppose her reason is #2 on your list.

Apparently she even change her mind, but it's better to let her wear a mask. As for me.

 

[hudson98]

I can't believe how many people are so judgemental about masks.

All I have to say is: do you really enjoy getting colds or flus or being sick?

I don't like being sick. It fucking sucks. Last time I got sick I got Influenza B and was out of work for 3 days and felt like a fucking piece of trash for over a week. I was out of lifting for almost 2 weeks.

If wearing a quality mask over my mouth and nose when I go into public places will prevent that, then I am all for it.

Y'all do whatever you want. I don't care if others wear masks. I do it because, as I said, I don't like getting sick. It sucks ass.

The vaccine--I haven't been getting it. I wear a mask and all that. I do think COVID is a fucking awful virus. Likely created in a lab. I won't say I know anything about the vaccine. All I know is that if it doesn't help stop the spread I am not gonna get it.

I never get sick, when I do, its no big deal, im fine in a day. if I get sick its usually my fault, as I haven't been getting proper sleep, recovery from the gym, etc

I have never experienced been sick and feeling horrible. I think most people are responsible for themselves getting sick. hand washing, sanitizer, masks are a joke. Not getting sick is about taking care of yourself, healthy immune system, the basics.

 

[Rido]

Gotta say that MFAAS was the best opinion here so far, it didn't even mention Covid, yet made a lot of sense for us all haha.

So back on the topic of Covid and as mentioned mainstream data. While I don't agree at all that "side" studies trump e.g. WHO (regardless what someone might think if the government influence), it simply gives us two choices in future events.

1) Screw the medical data, since government influenced data will surface first most likely regardless if they created the virus or not. At least to a degree that it will be visible to the majority of people. That means half of the population (if we base it on most vaccine debates) takes a risk and wait for potential future data (no vaccine). In this span of time if they were right we are all fine and the vaccinated people may or may not have DNA altered. Which is a funny topic since we mutate and alter our DNA/ Cells everyday regardless if we willingly consume/ breath something or not. If they were wrong, we now have death and new strains that will hurt or kill people world-wide for years to come. Love those odds...

2) We take our chances and believe that the people we have placed in power actually know what they are doing compared to us who reads biased or unbiased documentation from Von Snickers Titties who made a study on 1000 people and 6 different animals (animals die in all meds or cosmetics we create) in Germany a year after the event. If we were wrong, people live, if we were right, people live. Regardless, no mutations of said virus if doses are taken correctly. Even if it didn't work, mutation would happen regardless.

We cannot in one moment go "911, my daughter is sick, help her!" and in the next "f'ck the hospitals and their conspiracy plans". If the government would do the same to us, we would have "I need help, my daughter is dying"... "Well, someone elses daughter died because you wanted to be free, so tough luck".

Somewhere we gotta compromise wrong or not wrong. Doesn't matter if it was the vaccine or just the plain mask use. If you want to be free and also scream screw the system, then you cannot simultaneously call the system for help when it's convenient. That is being a leech on society.

The same debate would be, should we pay taxes? We know 90% goes on crap we don't care about, but we still do it for the greater good, to compromise to society. Or a simpler issue, I have a hernia and don't need to give my spot to an old lady on the bus, me standing up increases the risk of me falling and in that hurting myself and in that cannot provide for my family. We compromise wrong or not.
If I look on the data, standing up would be a horrible choice for me.

I honestly think there are too many morons on both sides that want everyone to be vaccinated and think viruses don't exist.

Too many people cherry pick what they want to listen to. I am glad some people put their pride for the vaccine for their loved ones.

The media has played too strong of a role into our medical system with a bunch of morons trying to interpret studies when they are missing the true conclusion of the studies.

I haven't met a patient who has died from the vaccine but I have had some die from their family members getting them infected and them dying.

However I see so many people who suck funds out of the system that honest to God, the world may be better without their existence. Recurrent hospital admissions who never put money into taxes.

Media and doctors who want attention, dictating their outside beliefs onto their reccomendations are ridiculous.

Is the COVID scare gone imo? Yes it is. Many of the people that would die from it are already gone. The mortality rate and "long COVID" are little to nothing.

I would say it's survival do the fittest for the virus but there are too many good people/immunocompromised that will die from the virus.


Even in regards to masks. Surgical masks have been used in hospitals this whole fucking time for all the respiratory viral illnesses and all of a sudden it's not good for covid? Are you shitting me?

Idgaf if the virus is real, fake, etc. Who the fuck cares who wears a mask? I have other things to think about. The only dumb thing I see is a n95 with a beard

 

[hudson98]

the left acts like th few people that did die from the bat flu are martyrs who sacrificed for the rest of us. lol. they are no more special than someone who died in a car crash. if we had a real pandemic that would benefit the world as we have too many people on this planet, many worthless, draining tax payer dollars, leaches. my cousin is one.

 

[rootrobot]

I can't believe how many people are so judgemental about masks.

All I have to say is: do you really enjoy getting colds or flus or being sick?

I don't like being sick. It fucking sucks. Last time I got sick I got Influenza B and was out of work for 3 days and felt like a fucking piece of trash for over a week. I was out of lifting for almost 2 weeks.

If wearing a quality mask over my mouth and nose when I go into public places will prevent that, then I am all for it.

Y'all do whatever you want. I don't care if others wear masks. I do it because, as I said, I don't like getting sick. It sucks ass.

The vaccine--I haven't been getting it. I wear a mask and all that. I do think COVID is a fucking awful virus. Likely created in a lab. I won't say I know anything about the vaccine. All I know is that if it doesn't help stop the spread I am not gonna get it.

Yeah - this is the right attitude. I haven't worn a mask since I got vaxxed (yes I got vaxxed, smd) but I have no issue with who wants to wear one or not wear one. Too much going on in my own life to worry about silly shit.

I do find it hilarious that a forum full of bros taking steroids that will do irreparable harm to their bodies are super worried about a vaccine that a billion people have gotten with minimal issues.

 

[hudson98]

Yeah - this is the right attitude. I haven't worn a mask since I got vaxxed (yes I got vaxxed, smd) but I have no issue with who wants to wear one or not wear one. Too much going on in my own life to worry about silly shit.

I do find it hilarious that a forum full of bros taking steroids that will do irreparable harm to their bodies are super worried about a vaccine that a billion people have gotten with minimal issues.

I find it funny clowns are fat or not fit, loaded up on prescription drugs, eat like shit, the cover their face with a mask because that means they are "being healthy"

they are about as smart as a crack head bragging how he takes a multi vitamin

 

[Hayes88]

I find it funny clowns are fat or not fit, loaded up on prescription drugs, eat like shit, the cover their face with a mask because that means they are "being healthy"

they are about as smart as a crack head bragging how he takes a multi vitamin

This immediately made me think about fat acceptance movement haha

 

[Inspired]

[/QUOTE]

I haven't worn a mask since I got vaxxed (yes I got vaxxed, smd)

I do find it hilarious that a forum full of bros taking steroids that will do irreparable harm to their bodies are super worried about a vaccine that a billion people have gotten with minimal issues.

You sound like you've done zero analysis or reading.

How many shots have you had? You're committed now either way, and even if you could recognize the destruction caused by the shots, sunk cost fallacy results in an inability to admit the truth to yourself.

People are dying all around you. People are withering away all around you. Ambulance sirens are going all day, everywhere in the world where people took these injections. Go look at the obituary sections. Died suddenly, died suddenly, died suddenly. Cancers. Heart attacks. Half the babies are dying in the hospitals or are born near death. All of this is happenings and far more yet......you think it's safe and effective? You are the carbon they want to reduce, and I'd have to say I can't disagree.

 

[narta]

To all: What is your science background?