Is Nandrolone worth it with my goals?

[maxmg]

I've done a cycle of test nearly a year ago with what I would consider amazing results. I'm 40 pounds heavier than I used to be. Training, diet, rest and recovery were really on point. It has changed my life for the better and I've never felt healthier and stronger than I do now. I'm on prescribed TRT (typical average dose) because it just makes my life and health so much better.

I want to put on another 15-20 pounds, at which point I want to start cutting as opposed to all the bulking. I will have reached my goal.

I still have many under developed muscles (in my opinion) and muscle imbalances.

I'm wondering if my second cycle should be test only again, or is it worth it to stack with Nandrolone? Does it really make a noticeable difference? I don't know which stats to believe, but is it true Nandrolone only helps you put on 5% more muscle?

I'm looking for advice from the more seasoned and knowledgeable - is Nandrolone worth it in my case?

 

[Juicedhead]

nandrolone will for sure help you put on size haha its like the prince for building mass with test being the king. If you want to just test the waters and see what it can do for you id start with NPP maybe like 200mg a week and see how you respond. If you dont like it you can drop it and itll be out of your system quick. Deca being the other option but is going to be a while to build up and then also a while to leave if you decided to drop it.

 

[maxmg]

nandrolone will for sure help you put on size haha its like the prince for building mass with test being the king. If you want to just test the waters and see what it can do for you id start with NPP maybe like 200mg a week and see how you respond. If you dont like it you can drop it and itll be out of your system quick. Deca being the other option but is going to be a while to build up and then also a while to leave if you decided to drop it.

Thanks for sharing your advice. When you say to start with 200mg a week, I'm assuming you mean on top of the Test cycle right? And not just NPP, right? How are you able to tell if you are "responding" to the NPP above and beyond to what the Test is doing for you?

No interested in Deca, just doesn't attract me tbh.

 

[youwhat?]

Thanks for sharing your advice. When you say to start with 200mg a week, I'm assuming you mean on top of the Test cycle right? And not just NPP, right? How are you able to tell if you are "responding" to the NPP above and beyond to what the Test is doing for you?

No interested in Deca, just doesn't attract me tbh.

You’ve run test before, as you said, so you should know how you respond to it. And yes run it with test. NPP is fairly quick onset of effects, you’ll know when it’s hitting you. I personally like pinning phenylpropionate, propionate, and acetate daily…not every other day. Something to keep in mind. Nice and easy with a 1/2” slin pin if you’re lean enough.

 

[Juicedhead]

Thanks for sharing your advice. When you say to start with 200mg a week, I'm assuming you mean on top of the Test cycle right? And not just NPP, right? How are you able to tell if you are "responding" to the NPP above and beyond to what the Test is doing for you?

No interested in Deca, just doesn't attract me tbh.

Yeah on top of test. Depending how high you have gone with test you could just simply increase your test dose instead of adding nandro.

 

[xrayphoton13]

All I can say from my experience is start with a low dose of npp. Some of us can not run it with testosterone. Even at 33mg of npp the next day my nipples are on fire. I've progressively tried lower amounts to see if I can mix the two but I just can't. However, without testosterone I've run 700mg NPP with zero issues.

 

[lukiss96]

I would try NPP instead of deca if I were in your shoes. From my personal experience I responded bad to deca and it caused me water retention and depression with mood swings that lasted for months. On the other hand if I were to do NPP I could have bailed earlier and avoided some of the problems.

 

[ripper908]

Gonna agree with everyone else and say try npp if youre gonna go that route. Start with a low dose and adjust accordingly

everyone is different so take this with a grain of salt but nandrolone is the only compound I ever tried that gave me really bad acne. I ran deca and by the time it kicked in it was too late so that is why I'm saying npp

 

[youwhat?]

Gonna agree with everyone else and say try npp if youre gonna go that route. Start with a low dose and adjust accordingly

everyone is different so take this with a grain of salt but nandrolone is the only compound I ever tried that gave me really bad acne. I ran deca and by the time it kicked in it was too late so that is why I'm saying npp

Good advice. I’ve never had acne problems ever on any AAS until I started tren h at 100mg 3x a week with this blast.

 

[ripper908]

Good advice. I’ve never had acne problems ever on any AAS until I started tren h at 100mg 3x a week with this blast.

just shows how everyones different. Tren gives me so skin issues whatsoever lol only thing tren does to me side effect wise is sweaty sleeps

i wake up drenched

 

[maxmg]

Thanks everyone for chiming in here, it is much appreciated and I consider it invaluable to my research before getting on board with NPP.

Curious to know, what is everyone's favorite dosing and cycle length on an NPP and Test stack cycle?

Does anyone know if Raloxifene should be taken during the cycle and/or PCT to prevent gyno? I'm prone, even on just test alone. Or, is Tamoxifin better?

Gonna agree with everyone else and say try npp if youre gonna go that route. Start with a low dose and adjust accordingly

everyone is different so take this with a grain of salt but nandrolone is the only compound I ever tried that gave me really bad acne. I ran deca and by the time it kicked in it was too late so that is why I'm saying npp

Interesting...for me, Testo in cycle doses gives me significant bacne.

 

[maxmg]

Yeah on top of test. Depending how high you have gone with test you could just simply increase your test dose instead of adding nandro.

Hey man - I've gone as high as 500 mg of test per week. How much higher have you gone, or would you recommend going, before it being worth trying to add some nandro (NPP) to the cycle?

 

[maxmg]

All I can say from my experience is start with a low dose of npp. Some of us can not run it with testosterone. Even at 33mg of npp the next day my nipples are on fire. I've progressively tried lower amounts to see if I can mix the two but I just can't. However, without testosterone I've run 700mg NPP with zero issues.

LOL noted. I guess everyone is built different? Were you not using an AI while on the test + npp?

 

[lukiss96]

Thanks everyone for chiming in here, it is much appreciated and I consider it invaluable to my research before getting on board with NPP.

Curious to know, what is everyone's favorite dosing and cycle length on an NPP and Test stack cycle?

Does anyone know if Raloxifene should be taken during the cycle and/or PCT to prevent gyno? I'm prone, even on just test alone. Or, is Tamoxifin better?



Interesting...for me, Testo in cycle doses gives me significant bacne.

Damn right, everyone is different. It's best to start with moderate dosage like 200-250mg/week since nandrolone is quite potent. It is at least equal to Testosterone in terms of anabolic effects. See how you do and if you're the type of person who wants to get the most out of things without sacrificing something else, then stick to it in case you responds well. Otherwise just stop it.

As for ralox/nolva it is pretty much irrelevant, both are good. I would personally use nolvadex since I know how it affects me. Keep it on hand in case of gyno emergency. As for pct, well I'm gonna go old school and say deca/npp/tren is not suitable choice, but still possible to recover nonetheless. Follow the standard pct protocol but expect it to suck more and give it more time.

 

[maxmg]

Damn right, everyone is different. It's best to start with moderate dosage like 200-250mg/week since nandrolone is quite potent. It is at least equal to Testosterone in terms of anabolic effects. See how you do and if you're the type of person who wants to get the most out of things without sacrificing something else, then stick to it in case you responds well. Otherwise just stop it.

As for ralox/nolva it is pretty much irrelevant, both are good. I would personally use nolvadex since I know how it affects me. Keep it on hand in case of gyno emergency. As for pct, well I'm gonna go old school and say deca/npp/tren is not suitable choice, but still possible to recover nonetheless. Follow the standard pct protocol but expect it to suck more and give it more time.

Thanks for sharing the knowledge. As for PCT, I have to do a bit more research on that. I'm on trt so I'm assuming that changes things a little.

 

[lukiss96]

Thanks for sharing the knowledge. As for PCT, I have to do a bit more research on that. I'm on trt so I'm assuming that changes things a little.

Oh yeah man, that changes everything - as a matter of fact you don't even need to pct. So just enjoy your blasting and then come off to just your TRT. Make sure to do blood work to see how is you health.

 

[Liter O' Test]

If test worked so well for you just do test again. I don't recommend deca to anyone now, lots of people report mental sides

 

[maxmg]

Does NPP fall into that category of mental sides as well?

 

[maxmg]

And yes Test worked wonders, and still does while on TRT. It is a godly nectar for me.

 

[lukiss96]

If test worked so well for you just do test again. I don't recommend deca to anyone now, lots of people report mental sides

I gotta say I agree, I loved the fullness it gave me and pumps in the gym were awesome. But later on in cycle I got depression that sucked the life and motivation out of me.

NPP I didn't experience such negative sides, but I only did like 6 weeks. I expected it to suck, but it didn't. Can't say for sure as I was prepared for it.

3rd time was tren/deca and later switched to npp. Fuck man, the gains in strength were phenominal and I was lean and full like crazy. Loved everything about it, I didn't experience much problems just some random premature ejaculations and yes I took the caber too.