Is this the Holy Grail of HRT/Anti-aging?

[synthol]

Has anyone tried Impact by ALRI?

It looks like one of the best products I have ever seen - an injectable form of 7-Keto DHEA, Phosphatidylserine (PS blocks cortisol ) and Formestane (anti-E & elevates IGF). The typical PS dose of 900 mg orally results in less than 20 mg in the blood, so having 50 mg/ml in oil equals the anti-catabolic effect of 1800 mg of PS orally. Pretty amazing.

I found the best price for it over at http://www.rxbody.com/impact.htm for $20 off Retail.

 

[freedomfighter]

It is not an "injectable form". This product is for oral consumption only. Taking Phosphatidylserine for prolonged periods isn't a good idea. Your joints will start to hurt. Cortisol and catabolism are necessary for good health. You just don't want cortisol and estrogen in your blood in high concentrations. Thats why they sell it as part of a PCT. When coming off aas cycles cortisol and estrogen compounds can get out of hand. This product used in moderation could help.

 

[synthol]

true - its not sold as an injectable, but everyone I know using it injects it - and it works. (actually its really most effective when injected)

 

[earthdog]

My understanding is that formestane supresses natural test production.

 

[Millard]

My understanding is that formestane supresses natural test production.

I believe formestane has androgenic metabolites, but I don't know about suppression. I believe ALRI is going to release an anti-estrogen product soon that is more effective than formestane and has no androgenic metabolites or negative feedback effects.

 

[synthol]

so formestane has inhibitive properties? I thought it was good for PCT - are you saying I should avoid it for PCT?

 

[Millard]

so formestane has inhibitive properties? I thought it was good for PCT - are you saying I should avoid it for PCT?

No, I think it's great for PCT - this is what is was designed for. I don't know of any suppressive properties to speak of. But I believe it does have androgenic metabolites.

 

[jboldman]

formestane is a type I irreversable aromatase inhibitor. It has a pro-hormone metabolite of 4-hydroxytestosterone which is a very weak androgen.

250mgpo daily was found in studies to be the equivalent of 500mg im weekly in post menopausal women.

jb

 

[SWALE]

I am not familiar with this product, so cannot comment on it.

However, I do want to formally welcome jboldman to the Forum.

 

[jboldman]

Thanks swale.

jb

 

[earthdog]

so formestane has inhibitive properties? I thought it was good for PCT - are you saying I should avoid it for PCT?

I'm certainly not the authority, but I remember reading this on a supplement store's prohormone forum (which I am loathe to post the link unless the admin says its ok). The idea on that other forum was, that formestane would be used to suppress E during the cycle, if needed, while 6-OXO would be used post-cycle. The reason for using formestane on cycle only was because of its alleged suppressive effects. However I would tend to think the bros here have better knowledge on the topic.

 

[Millard]

I'm certainly not the authority, but I remember reading this on a supplement store's prohormone forum (which I am loathe to post the link unless the admin says its ok). The idea on that other forum was, that formestane would be used to suppress E during the cycle, if needed, while 6-OXO would be used post-cycle. The reason for using formestane on cycle only was because of its alleged suppressive effects. However I would tend to think the bros here have better knowledge on the topic.

I think you'll hear a lot about the trademarked Dianestrozole as superior to both formestane and 6-oxo -- individually or combined -- in the coming months. It looks very promising.

I don't mind if you post a link to provide more info. Generally, we frown upon commercial links. But it's not my call as this is Swale's TRT forum and we're already deviating away from discussing TRT.

 

[SWALE]

Well, I'm certainly interested in learning more about it.

It's great when the guys find good info to share.

 

[freedomfighter]

JB! How goes it? You know me under another handle. On the original Meso board you used to correct all my posts. Glad to see you back here.

 

[synthol]

Yes, injecting IMPACT is fine as long as you heat it prior to using as flakes will develop in the solution from precipitate. Its not the most painless material I have used but it is tolerable, esp in light of the fact that its such a potent combo of 3 key ingredients...

I wish it had some DHEA and not all 7-Keto DHEA cuz I think DHEA alone would act to boost natural Test levels (or does 7-keto help here as well?)

 

[SWALE]

DHEA will not boost T levels in males (but will for females). It will elevate E, though.

I discussed the keto-DHEA with a chemist recently, who told me it does not act as straight DHEA does. All I have is his professional opinion to go on.

 

[jboldman]

Meso was my home for a long time, i still cruise thru periodically, i have a sentimental attachment to the board. Nice to hear from some of the older board members.

jb

JB! How goes it? You know me under another handle. On the original Meso board you used to correct all my posts. Glad to see you back here.

 

[synthol]

Swale- what do you think of PCT using Protodioscin (increases LH), Acetyl-L-Carnitine (stimulates NGF), and various other agents like Deprnyl that stimulate Nerve Growth Factor (NGF)?

thanks

 

[earthdog]

I don't mind if you post a link to provide more info. Generally, we frown upon commercial links. But it's not my call as this is Swale's TRT forum and we're already deviating away from discussing TRT.

OK, http://forums.1fast400.com/?showtopic=760 Search within the post itself for formestane. Again, I'm not saying this is written in stone or anything, just what seems to be the thinking among avid prohormone users. BTW, this is regarding the theory that formestane might supress natural test.

 

[SWALE]

I did not find the article in question, but if you lower estrogen, you raise testosterone. The problem comes in when you lower it too much.