Isis/Muslim/terrorist rant

Meek. Your starting to look like a Christian hater yourself? Wtf does isis killing innocent people have to do with the crusades? That's like a Seahawks fan getting dogged out by a clevland browns fan based on the good old days. You are trying to put Christians on the same level as isis and your selling point is the crusades???
News Flash my friend. The crusades are not going on anymore. Christians are not cutting heads off and stoning its own people to death in the name of Jesus. But isis however. Is.
You seem to be protectant of Islam. USAs current president is losing more and more american supporters every day for protecting Islam. Any religion on this earth if you go back far enough has dirt on there hands dumbass. It would not survive the test of time if it didnt fight back. The difference is isis are terrorists hiding behind religion.
With your current theory brewing you would hate me because I am white and less than 50 years ago whites enslaved blacks. That's nutty. But your quoting bad Christians b/c of the crusades?? I'm a Christian meek. I been to Iraq and Afghanistan and I am certain there are good Muslims. But they live primitive and are easily pushed into radicalism due to starvation, rape murder etc etc. this is the reason isis needs stopped. But lets stop hating on Christians because isis is brutally killing them for doing nothing more than trying to help the weak and hungry.
 
Meek. Your starting to look like a Christian hater yourself? Wtf does isis killing innocent people have to do with the crusades? That's like a Seahawks fan getting dogged out by a clevland browns fan based on the good old days. You are trying to put Christians on the same level as isis and your selling point is the crusades???
News Flash my friend. The crusades are not going on anymore. Christians are not cutting heads off and stoning its own people to death in the name of Jesus. But isis however. Is.
You seem to be protectant of Islam. USAs current president is losing more and more american supporters every day for protecting Islam. Any religion on this earth if you go back far enough has dirt on there hands dumbass. It would not survive the test of time if it didnt fight back. The difference is isis are terrorists hiding behind religion.
With your current theory brewing you would hate me because I am white and less than 50 years ago whites enslaved blacks. That's nutty. But your quoting bad Christians b/c of the crusades?? I'm a Christian meek. I been to Iraq and Afghanistan and I am certain there are good Muslims. But they live primitive and are easily pushed into radicalism due to starvation, rape murder etc etc. this is the reason isis needs stopped. But lets stop hating on Christians because isis is brutally killing them for doing nothing more than trying to help the weak and hungry.


Newkid, you're trying to use reason and logic on someone who can't even eat without having someone wipe the drool off his chin. Don't waste your time.
 
Point is it happened "MY FRIEND" they used religion as an excuse to kill. Thats the point. Stop twisting shit like u lonely friend above. Seriously Im not here to argue u can see the articles stop denying the truth and wake up!
 
Point is it happened "MY FRIEND" they used religion as an excuse to kill. Thats the point. Stop twisting shit like u lonely friend above. Seriously Im not here to argue u can see the articles stop denying the truth and wake up!

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While ISIS may not represent the kind of Islam with which your wife is familiar, it most certainly represents Islam. It's ridiculous to suggest that it doesn't.

Also, assuming you are not a Muslim yourself, it is forbidden in Islam for a Muslim woman to marry a kaffir.

CBS, I'm disappointed. You usually don't allow your arguments to degenerate like this... Judaism also forbids marrying a shiksa. Shall we equate Judaism with Islam on that basis? And yes, ISIS does represent Islam in as much as the Aryan Nation represents Protestant Christianity, right? Anyone can claim to be doing something in the name of god - overwhelmingly we see through history that they are doing it for themselves.
 
CBS, I'm disappointed. You usually don't allow your arguments to degenerate like this... Judaism also forbids marrying a shiksa. Shall we equate Judaism with Islam on that basis?

Personally, I don't care one way or the other. I used that point to counter the rosy picture of Islam Meek was trying to paint. However, since you bring it up, Meek said his wife is no longer a Muslim, i.e., she's an apostate, and the Islamic penalty for apostasy is death.

And yes, ISIS does represent Islam in as much as the Aryan Nation represents Protestant Christianity, right?

No, not right. Not even close. That is the most ridiculous thing you've ever said.

I'm not interested in the time consuming effort it would require to educate you on Islam in order for us to have this discussion. Statements like the above made make it perfectly clear that you know next to nothing about Islamic scripture.

I don't mean that as an insult, KK, but it is a fact. If you want to engage in this conversation, you would be well served by spending some time learning Islamic scripture and the sharia.

Anyone can claim to be doing something in the name of god - overwhelmingly we see through history that they are doing it for themselves.

Onceagain, your statements proves your ignorance on this topic.
 
Personally, I don't care one way or the other. I used that point to counter the rosy picture of Islam Meek was trying to paint. However, since you bring it up, Meek said his wife is no longer a Muslim, i.e., she's an apostate, and the Islamic penalty for apostasy is death.



No, not right. Not even close. That is the most ridiculous thing you've ever said.

I'm not interested in the time consuming effort it would require to educate you on Islam in order for us to have this discussion. Statements like the above made make it perfectly clear that you know next to nothing about Islamic scripture.

I don't mean that as an insult, KK, but it is a fact. If you want to engage in this conversation, you would be well served by spending some time learning Islamic scripture and the sharia.



Onceagain, your statements proves your ignorance on this topic.

Wow, you're normally a pretty level-headed guy that expresses some intelligence, but I think you have let you anger at other posters and fear of what ISIS represents unbalance you. Looking at the shift you take from issues to attacking me for pointing out to you that you were letting your arguments degenerate, it sounds like you're pretty hot.

I won't respond to your claims but don't ever assume for a moment that you can educate me on any religious topic. The very notion is absurd. Please chill. I was just trying to promote some civility in the discussion.
 
Wow, you're normally a pretty level-headed guy that expresses some intelligence, but I think you have let you anger at other posters and fear of what ISIS represents unbalance you.

I'm not angry, but I do get tired of listening to people who are ignorant about Islam trying to sell the 'religion of peace' narrative when nothing could be further from the truth.

Looking at the shift you take from issues to attacking me for pointing out that you were letting your arguments degenerate it sounds like you're pretty hot.

I pointed out that your statement that "ISIS does represent Islam in as much as the Aryan Nation represents Protestant Christianity" was ridiculous because it was. It was so ridiculous that it didn't even deserve a response.

I won't respond to your claims but don't ever assume for a moment that you can educate me on any religious topic. The very notion is absurd. Please chill. I was just trying to promote some civility in the discussion.

It's not absurd at all. You proved with your own words that you have no knowledge of Islam. And trying to equate the Aryan Nation with Christianity suggests that you're lacking there too. Sorry you find that offensive.
 
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I respectfully disagree. There are millions of young moderate Muslims fighting the establishment in the streets. There are countries 99 % Muslim and a democracy not sharia. Orthodox Christians pilgrimage to Istanbul for their sacret church without fear for centuries. Tv only shows the extremist. Most people live in harmony in Jordan, chad, morocco ,Turkey when it's not polarized. I do not know why you feel so strongly about the culture in whole but I respect your opinion. I disagree.
 
I'm not angry, but I do get tired of listening to people who are ignorant about Islam trying to sell the 'religion of peace' narrative when nothing could be further from the truth.



I pointed out that your statement that "ISIS does represent Islam in as much as the Aryan Nation represents Protestant Christianity" was ridiculous because it was. It was so ridiculous that it didn't even deserve a response.



It's not absurd at all. You proved with your own words that you have no knowledge of Islam. And trying to equate the Aryan Nation with Christianity suggests that you're lacking there too. Sorry you find that offensive.

I really must ask what is it that makes you a recognized expert on Islam, Judaism, Christianity or any other ethos, for that matter?

I never said anything about Islam being a "religion of peace". Putting words into the mouths of others signifies a lack of confidence in one's own position. I pointed out that, as you say, one "ridiculous" statement simply deserves another. Your logic was lacking where I chimed in, which is again why I say you are unbalanced, man.

And yes, it most certainly is absurd. I'm sorry the depth of what I was saying to you couldn't get past your unfounded anger. You will understand one day, I hope.

I'm not offended brother, just disappointed that you let your emotions cloud your logic in this conversation. You're smarter than that.
 
I really must ask what makes you a recognized expert on Islam, Judaism, Christianity or any other ethos, for that matter?

I never said anything about Islam being a "religion of peace". Putting words into the mouths of others signifies a lack of confidence in one's own position. I pointed out that, as you say, one "ridiculous" statement simply deserves another. Your logic was lacking which is again why I say you are unbalanced, man.

And yes, it most certainly is absurd. I'm sorry the depth of what I was saying to you couldn't get past your unfounded anger.

I'm not offended brother, just disappointed that you let your emotions cloud your logic in this conversation. You're smarter than that.

Sigh. Now you're putting words in my mouth. I didn't say that you said Islam was a religion of peace. In your first post to me - the one to which I replied - you said."You usually don't allow your arguments to degenerate like this." You were referring to my argument with Meek and suggested I was angry.

In response to your comments, I said "I'm not angry, but I do get tired of listening to people who are ignorant about Islam trying to sell the 'religion of peace' narrative when nothing could be further from the truth."

Since I was addressing your comments about my argument with Meek, it should have been clear that my comment about being tired of hearing the religion of peace mantra was in regards to my argument with Meek, since Meek DID say that Islam was a religion of peace.
 
Looks like your prejudices are coming out too. Don't you think that by making comments about Islam you are going to alienate moderate Muslims?

I'm a very liberal person. I disagreed with terror attacks and still do. However I think your troops are fair game after abu ghraib and gitmo. Their throats can be slit and I would gleefully watch.

Calling me names isn't freedom of speech it is defamatory.

Now can you please invite some soldier babes to this thread

muslim people are fucking weird and praise a false god lol allah can suck my dick
and to be honest i feel all them muslim people deserve to be nuked and i would ''gleefully'' watch when everyone in their family dies and watch allah not do shit about it :D

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I respectfully disagree. There are millions of young moderate Muslims fighting the establishment in the streets. There are countries 99 % Muslim and a democracy not sharia. Orthodox Christians pilgrimage to Istanbul for their sacret church without fear for centuries. Tv only shows the extremist. Most people live in harmony in Jordan, chad, morocco ,Turkey when it's not polarized. I do not know why you feel so strongly about the culture in whole but I respect your opinion. I disagree.

You're missing my point. It has nothing to do with culture and none of my comments were directed at Muslims per se. My comments were directed at Islam. I've never said ALL Muslims are waging jihad on the infidels, or that all Muslims hate the infidels. That would be absurd because it's not true. Some of the friendliest people I've ever met were in Iran. But just because most Muslims don't wage jihad doesn't mean the Islam practiced by ISIS isn't grounded in Islamic scripture, or that Islam isn't inherently violent.

I'm glad to hear you say there are millions of young Muslims fighting the establishment. Unfortunately, there are also millions of Muslims - young and old - who support the establishment.

You used Turkey as an example. As I'm sure you know, Atatürk stripped power from the clergy and secularized the country. Under Erdogan, Turkey is rapidly re-Islamizing. If Erdogan and the clergy are successful, which is looking increasingly likely all the time, the freedoms currently enjoyed by Orthodox Christians will disappear. And along with it the freedoms currently enjoyed by Turkey's Muslims.
 
My fear exactly. Millions in Turkey fighting to move erdogan out of power. Ataturk was secular middle east's first leader and a cornerstone. Radicals are trying all In their power to discredit his reforms. I see your point about Islam. I watched this culture trying to move itself forward. Young Turks have only their voice and fightin everyday fiercely against brutality of the men with guns( current government). I say there is still hope. Democracy is not easy, especially where the tyrants have all the guns :) peaceful fighting takes a long time
 
@voltron111 haha no but almost every male member of my family has. And They get treat like shit while their in and def when they are out...their words bro so u shit the fuck up.
 
My personal opinion after all of this is the @CensoredBoardsSuck created @Thesecretman handle and made all those statements himself just to start this argument. People with that much hate in their heart for 1 certain type of people clearly have an agenda to get across. Just like the KKK using Christianity...but Im sure he will say its not the same thing hahaha dude is a complete fool! Me and my wife were laughing all night at this retard.
 
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