[Labmax] Superior Mast e

[belphegor123]

This bottle was purchased around the end of September. I'm having a hard time deciding what it is based on the colors produced. Vial A was a darker orange while Vial b was orange. Under UV there is a strong Yellow fluorescence. Both were given 2 drops from a slin pin

 

[flenser]

Looks like a pass to me. I never actually got to test real mast e, though. All of the meso sources I got samples from in 2013 were fake, and I gave up after that.

 

[belphegor123]

Yeah I just was a bit shocked it came out rather close, his eq blew and boldenone is muchhhh cheaper than drostanolone.

 

[DrewTheBrew]

if you dont mind me asking did you purchase test or tren from him also?

 

[belphegor123]

I have test cyp from him and eq as well. I posted a separate thread with EQ results but I have not checked the test cyp

 

[burnwitit]

When did you purchase this? I have two bottles of his MastE from a while back and I've always felt like a fool that I bought two without lab maxing the first. Seems like you bought a unicorn with the way things are going lately.

 

[belphegor123]

I got these back in late september. Honestly I used his mast about a year prior before i had ever even heard of labmax and i had all of the expected results from it, which is why i purchased it a second time. Then all of these bad reports have been coming through which made me start to question things.

 

[Dr JIM]

This bottle was purchased around the end of September. I'm having a hard time deciding what it is based on the colors produced. Vial A was a darker orange while Vial b was orange. Under UV there is a strong Yellow fluorescence. Both were given 2 drops from a slin pin
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The LM $1.00 dollar question? Does it contain ANY AAS
The LM $1000.00 dollar question? Does it contain the AAS listed on the vial?
The LM TRILLION DOLLAR question (and the ONLY one that really matters, imo)? What is it's concentration

1) LM is likely a solid test for this question

2) Bc of how similar ALL AAS are chemically and structurally, this will likely vary considerably depending upon which AAS is being tested. For example bc the number ONE ring of Anavar is a lactone ring and TT does not have the same feature LM probably CAN detect that difference BUT differentiating Primo from TT, where the difference is the placement of ring hydrogens.....no way based on this structural characteristic alone. Fact is the UV spectra of Primo and TT are ALMOST IDENTICAL!!!!
OR bc Trenbolone contains a double carbon bond in each of it's three rings is exclusive to Tren alone.

3) Bc the results of number one are so arbitrary and capricious the answer here is ABSOLUTELY NOT!

Regs
jim

 

[mercury]

it comes to very basics that changing just one atom will produce different substance with different properties. If spectra is identical it means that this method is not good detection tool and you use something different.

Or you use different column when you can achieve better separation and resolution, is that simple.

 

[Dr JIM]

it comes to very basics that changing just one atom will produce different substance with different properties. If spectra is identical it means that this method is not good detection tool and you use something different.

Or you use different column when you can achieve better separation and resolution, is that simple.

Oh!

 

[MANWHORE]

it comes to very basics that changing just one atom will produce different substance with different properties. If spectra is identical it means that this method is not good detection tool and you use something different.

Or you use different column when you can achieve better separation and resolution, is that simple.

So, is it a pass?..

Just so you know, when I see a labmax test threads,
I always look for your response..

M

 

[belphegor123]

The LM $1.00 dollar question? Does it contain ANY AAS
The LM $1000.00 dollar question? Does it contain the AAS listed on the vial?
The LM TRILLION DOLLAR question (and the ONLY one that really matters, imo)? What is it's concentration

1) LM is likely a solid test for this question

2) Bc of how similar ALL AAS are chemically and structurally, this will likely vary considerably depending upon which AAS is being tested. For example bc the number ONE ring of Anavar is a lactone ring and TT does not have the same feature LM probably CAN detect that difference BUT differentiating Primo from TT, where the difference is the placement of ring hydrogens.....no way based on this structural characteristic alone. Fact is the UV spectra of Primo and TT are ALMOST IDENTICAL!!!!
OR bc Trenbolone contains a double carbon bond in each of it's three rings is exclusive to Tren alone.

3) Bc the results of number one are so arbitrary and capricious the answer here is ABSOLUTELY NOT!

Regs
jim

You could have literally said that in 3-4 sentences.

 

[mercury]

So, is it a pass?..

Just so you know, when I see a labmax test threads,
I always look for your response..

M

actually it is, very nice colors, although he could try to do a better sharper picture.

I was a little surprised to see this since a lot of this gear failed

maybe he just got lucky with different supplier just for mast e

 

[belphegor123]

actually it is, very nice colors, although he could try to do a better sharper picture.

I was a little surprised to see this since a lot of this gear failed

maybe he just got lucky with different supplier just for mast e

Yeah I really tried to capture it but it was hard. I have NEW mast e from superior that will be getting the test later this week. Stay tuned.

 

[CensoredBoardsSuck]

@Dr JIM, would all those changes be necessary?

 

[Dr JIM]

@Dr JIM, would all those changes be necessary?

Well of course not. The point was the differences in the capabilities of HPLC vs LM.

That's bc at it's very best LM uses a particular spectra or wavelength (seen by the observer as a specific COLOR) to aid in an AAS identification.

Comparatively HPLC uses not only the UVL wavelength which is measured in NANOMETERS, rather than a simplified colorimetric change.

Furthermore whether a sample develops an grid "peak" provides additional information as do ELUTION/RETENTION times of those peaks.

Lastly the dimensions of said peaks enable HPLC to further quantify a samples AAS concentration.

Understand the differences between LM and HPLC are HUGE with LM likely limited it's ability to detect THE PRESENCE of ANY AAS.

But only chromatography can not only identify the specific AAS but also determine a samples concentration. This critical difference between these two forms of testing, defines what every user must KNOW when planning a cycle.

Fact is to date, there has never been a reason to "change columns" out of necessity bc of overlapping data when analyzing AAS.

Regs
Jim

 

[pasamoto]

looks exactly like the mast e i tested from stemco. which i got nice resuklts this past summer

 

[mercury]

Comparatively HPLC uses not only the UVL wavelength which is measured in NANOMETERS, rather than a simplified colorimetric change.

Regs
Jim

the principle of operation are not exactly what you are trying to say. there are different detectors using variable wavelength and fixed wavelength each one depends on the type of analysis we are looking for.

the type of reports I have seen here are based on fixed wavelength detector.

 

[Dr JIM]

I don't know of ANY contemporary UVA detector that can't oscillate when searching for a compounds maximal absorbance.

And that absorbance is then used to determine the concentration via an appropriately designed LINEAR calibration curve.

The point is without the reports listing the UVW being used, there is no way to tell what that WL is.

This is NO guessing game the data I'm speaking of should be listed, PERIOD!