[Labmax] [var] Quality Direct Labs (QDL) and Hardcore Labs (HCL)

[Sam n]

First time user of Labmax test kit. I did watch a bunch of videos on Labmax site which are very informative as to all the technicalities involved. I also did some youtubing on it.
I acquired 2 var products from 2 companies - QDL & HCL labs. Both do have a good reputation.

Looking at the results below, i think BOTH are winny due to the olive-green color. I am 90% certain i did not use too much powder, just 3/4 of the scoop thing labmax includes in the kit after dicing 1 10mg pill 8 ways to get 1/8th portion of the 10mg var.

Can you please help me interpret this, give your opinions please?
I emailed Labmax to get their take on it, and will share knowledge here whenever they reply back.

 

[Supermansson11]

QDL has had negativity lately bro.
So be careful

 

[mercury]

you can see right away if you followed the instructions

and if those pictures are after 15 min, and it is indeed around 1 mg

it is too dark for anavar.

anavar has very slow reaction after 15 min there is a little color change, like darker yellow

while winstrol is darker like on your pictures, almost like light brown.

just go to labmax site they have high resolution pictures compering on one anavar - wonstrol - dbol - tbol, you will see right away where you have color match.

 

[Sam n]

thanks for the info mercury.
Yes, when i did the test, i pulled up the anavar link on labmax website and downloaded the high res images of the vials images. i was comparing to that.
Neither one matchs.

HCL stayed similar color to the unused vial (yellow/orange) for around 8 minutes where it started to aggressively turn into olive green. While QDL almost immidiately started getting darker resulting in a darker tone compared to hcl after 15 minutes.
Its a shame, cause i was REALLY looking forward to a nice var/test/masteron/ghrp cycle. I had high hopes especially for HCL labs.

FYI -
I also tested:
QDL Test Enanthate 250 = Passed
Geneza Test Prop 100 = Passed
Biomex Masteron 200 blend (150 e, 50 p) = Passed (I saw blend of colors higher for the enanthate, and some/slight color for the prop).

Dont have pics for these 3 above, but it matched the colors on labmax chart perfectly. So i guess i just got duped on the orals.

Any suggestions on a legit source of var?? Please let me know, PM me if you dont feel like putting it out publicly.

 

[mercury]

thanks for the info mercury.
Yes, when i did the test, i pulled up the anavar link on labmax website and downloaded the high res images of the vials images. i was comparing to that.
Neither one matchs.

you need to pay attention to the instructions and you will be expert in no time.

It cannot be anavar because it is too dark.

If it did not start to turn right away red - dark red or brown then it is not dbol either


it is dark after 15 minutes so it can only be winstrol

I do not know any source you can get good anavar, it is always lottery, you need keep looking

 

[Maktub]

Whats the batch # on test prop !! I?? Thanks

 

[jabrel3]

Yup no var in there lol, wouldn't be surprised if you have a winny-dbol mix or just straight dbol.

 

[Sam n]

Yup, i figured these colors are too dark to be var. damn HCL ! damn QDL ! lol
In all seriousness, I think Labmax paid off well in this case, since i was planning to run Var part of my HRT at a low dose @ 20 mg /day or so for long term (4+ months). That could have caused some serious liver & tendons damage using Winny thinking its Var.

Knowing its winny, i would make wiser decisions in regards to its use. I would cycle it in a short bursts 8 weeks or so, or at the end of a bulk cycle for 5 weeks or so just to splice through the stubborn adipose tissues gained in mass gaining.

Geneza is good w/ Test. The lot number is worn off, but I did go to http://genezapharmaceuticals.com/ and entered the ISN number & it's Authentic.
From what i see the lot # is 6P844R


Im all ears for a clean pure Var source

 

[Dshep]

Yup, i figured these colors are too dark to be var. damn HCL ! damn QDL ! lol
In all seriousness, I think Labmax paid off well in this case, since i was planning to run Var part of my HRT at a low dose @ 20 mg /day or so for long term (4+ months). That could have caused some serious liver & tendons damage using Winny thinking its Var.

Knowing its winny, i would make wiser decisions in regards to its use. I would cycle it in a short bursts 8 weeks or so, or at the end of a bulk cycle for 5 weeks or so just to splice through the stubborn adipose tissues gained in mass gaining.

Geneza is good w/ Test. The lot number is worn off, but I did go to http://genezapharmaceuticals.com/ and entered the ISN number & it's Authentic.
From what i see the lot # is 6P844R


Im all ears for a clean pure Var source

Looks like pharmacom var is getting good reviews so far from what I've read, but that can change quickly.

 

[Maktub]

Thanks men for the info ..i Just got some test prop

 

[Dshep]

Thanks men for the info ..i Just got some test prop

Pharmacom prop bro?

 

[MightyBruce]

I tested VAR raws with Labmax and looked like that. Actually worse. I put a very small amount and it turned dark. I then sent it to be tested using the latest GC/MS technology. It's VAR, albeit with a purity of only 83%, but it's still VAR. Obviously LabMax gave a false negative.

 

[Sam n]

Thanks men for the info ..i Just got some test prop

You're guna like it. You get the pip too which is distinctive of T prop.

 

[Sam n]

I tested VAR raws with Labmax and looked like that. Actually worse. I put a very small amount and it turned dark. I then sent it to be tested using the latest GC/MS technology. It's VAR, albeit with a purity of only 83%, but it's still VAR. Obviously LabMax gave a false negative.

v interesting info.
So this could be Var mixed in with something else (dbol, winny). Where did you send it for testing with latest "GC/MS technology" ? Did you send it over to Labmax to execute this test on the sample? Or did you use other?
Let me know 'cause i would love to send some samples in for testing.

thanks!

 

[Maktub]

You're guna like it. You get the pip too which is distinctive of T prop.

I have done geneZa test e ! Píp was bad !! Dont know why ; píp from test e shouldt be that bad! Usually it will last up to 5-6"days. Not normal i think .

What was your dose for test prop? Lenght?

 

[Sam n]

well, yea that doesn't sound normal at all. If you had pip from Test E then its the suspension oil they are using thats causing that wether it be irritation or pip, cause the ester itself Enanthate doesnt carry that "pip" attribute. I prefer esters mixed with MCT oil which makes it thinner & disperses in body easier, and less odds of forming golf balls pi.

I usually get pip 1 day after Test P, very mild almost unnoticable, and thats about it, and a little bump mini golf ball like a grape lol

When it comes to Test P & E, i use year round part of HRT program my doctor put together back in the day, and i tweaked & adjusted over the years. Test about 200mg EW - 100mg P , 100mg E. When im on cycle, its ~ 600mg EW - 300mg E, 300mg P + whatever other compounds to achieve cycle goal - bulk/cut/recomp/...

What other brands of Test have you used?
How do you like Bold? Any experience with it?

 

[Maktub]

That's the only one I have use. I'm new to this world! Been doing some ph but that's all..That was my first cycle. I'm planning on getting some test e vermodj or alpha pharma for my next cycle.

 

[Maktub]

Pharmacom prop bro?

Geneza test prop diferente batch
Batch gp144H
Exp 05 2017

 

[Sam n]

I've seen some great results on prohormones, i prefer the injectables cause they relatively have less sides, and i can run way longer (4 months or so) cycles with much less risk. Wether you do ph or injectibles, you need to know what the hell you're doing and take necessary precautions against gyno, elevated progesterone, shutdown,...etc.

bro - send me the ISN number , i cant see it properly with the angle its in on the pic, and i can verify for you if its legit or not - to validate your source basically.

 

[Maktub]

Thanks for the advice. we never stop learning. PH for me were great I wa able to gain up to 16 solid punds in a 5 week cycle ; that was pretty good..
Back on feb did my first test e cycle all good. Now I'm done with pct! Im going to wait 4 weeks to get bloods and see where I'm at!

ISN c3z1734z4679