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The CTS you experience is from the nerve in your hand compressed by water retention I'm guessing in short term use.@mands
Do you know if HGH sides, specifically carpal tunnel syndrome, come from high GH serum or high IGF-1?
The CTS you experience is from the nerve in your hand compressed by water retention I'm guessing in short term use.
I have read studies that CTS will occur when there are high levels of IGF-1. In turn when IGF-1 levels drop into a lower range there were no accounts of CTS.
For the record... High GH serum levels should account for high IGF-1 levels in theory.
mands
Is water retention a problem with high amounts of exogenous igf-1?So someone taking large amounts of legitimate IGF-1 and no HGH will experience CTS as well? And if someone had a condition where HGH didn't cause IGF-1 to rise, they would not experience CTS?
Is water retention a problem with high amounts of exogenous igf-1?
If they had HGH that didn't cause IGF-1 to rise they probably have bunk HGH.
Are you actually asking me or is that rhetorical? I've never researched IGF-1 at all so I have no idea.
I meant if someone had a disease or something of the sort where their body couldn't produce IGF-1 from HGH.
Was just curious what the side effects stem from.
Great to have anecdotal evidence here. I was looking for what causes GH not to convert to IGF-1 and I did find that but there are others too.I've never had my igf rise more than 40 points even on 20iu/day of gh and I don't get CTS sides so there's 1 anecdote.
I've done 4 different igf tests on 4 brands.
Sciroxx Somastim
TP black tops
6F red tops
Pharmatropin
I know somastim and the black tops were legit based on our testing at PM and I'm the one that donated the vials so what was tested was what I was using. 6F white tops were tested and did well but we didn't test the red tops and re pharmatropin, we've seen the mixed results.
So I'm not converting to igf for some reason. Muscle96 suggested hepatitis c but I got tested and was negative and all my liver values are fine so who knows.
Point being that I think high igf = water retention = cts. Igf lr3 doesn't cause me any cts either.
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You guys are splitting hairs here I do believe. But, if he's guaranteeing 15 iu's like @noswttea4u is stating then 13.7 iu's is short no matter if you are paying less per IU or not. I will take this all day long. I know @tp2013 is not happy if they are coming in at 13.7 because the manufacture is guaranteeing him 15 iu.
@Nutpuncher he's not underdosing his vials he is overdosing. But, they came in 1.3 iu's from the first test. We are testing more. Remember more tests the better. That way we can determine accuracy of the testing. Some might come in over 15 iu's. We don't know yet.
mands
So I been mixing greys wrong? I use 1ml water per vial.
No its right!
It's so easy,1 full insulin gun 1 ml water in a 10 IU vial . . . So the half of the insulin gun is 5 IU the half of the half is 2.5 IU ! Just think about it please
I'd do both! @mands will be able to help you a bit more... When in doubt, it seems MORE info is better than less, right?