Let's talk about GH (and all other shit)

Oh @Platinum Direct is perturbed bc the answer to all HIS declining sales, the Sero assay, has yet to be posted.

So he is trying to ruin that thread by camping out on it until "that Sero is posted". So he wants to play cry baby
GAMES and pout until he receives the attention he wants.

Well let me say poor PDs in for one hell of a long wait, bc last I checked only MANDs and I have access to the
SERO analysis LMAO

And MANDS and MYSELF must BOTH agree before ANY assay is posted, GOT IT PD.

Hmm wonder y you don't want it posted? It will show that all your results are 20-25% off. You got it brother. This is my last post here. I provide a great service great products and a great experience. You got it? Cheers Mate
 
You first says that you are doing it for the community and then later your start a personal
War with PD like two
Babies and will deny us the serostim assay?

Jim more you keep doing this, more your credibility will go down and I'm sorry to say it but more ppl will start believing what PM ppl are saying about our tests being inaccurate.

Is all these only about your ego?

Just post that fucking assay and shove it in their face.

Unless the serostim assay will prove them right and you wrong.... is that the reason?

I believe the latter here. There is a reason he wont post it hmmmmm
 

rpbb

Member
AnabolicLab.com Supporter
Dr Jim all ur doing with all ur talk about me is boosting my sales. Thank you . I stand fully behind all my products and not going to have one bad apple out of the batch which is you ruin it. Cheers mate.
you should be thanking Dr J, if they greytops are only 25 percent underdosed but consistent, that's a reasonable tradeoff. I also see you quickly picked up the blacktop line as a result of Dr J's testing, so what the fuck is the problm
 
I didn't pick up shit since of dr J testing. Im not thanking anyone here. All you guys want to do is bash generic hgh. The one doing the test is one of the biggest generic hgh haters. So you can go bully everyone else here but its not gonna fly with me internet tough guy. Greys are made in a regulated gmp facility. Oh so lets believe jim A nobody internet guy doing some test's or a regulated gmp facility that you think is shorting vials??? Ok good one. Done here.
 
you should be thanking Dr J, if they greytops are only 25 percent underdosed but consistent, that's a reasonable tradeoff. I also see you quickly picked up the blacktop line as a result of Dr J's testing, so what the fuck is the problm
Have you been in a hole too? The blacks have been tested like this for close to year now brother... I didn't need jim so called tests for me to bring them to the market know it all. It was a company decision to bring them to the market. If you didn't have ur head up ur ass and went to my home board you would know that I was thinking of bringing them to the market many months agao. cheers mate
 

Mr MASSE

Member
Just go on with 10 IU... In a few weeks all sides like water or numb hands will not go full away but it will be much more better and all you can handel it better with time..
 

Dr JIM

Member
The blacks have been tested like this for close to year now brother...

BULLSHIT! I asked you many months ago to posts Grey data and you left Meso dejected.

And finally I've seen perhaps 5-6 generic GH HPLC assays on PM and 2-3 BlackTops cited on Meso by TP., all with limited data to support their results and ALL used "PHARM" as an UNVERIFIED STANDARD!

The only forum that has cited AAA evidence for GH analysis is MESO and both threads
involved Mands and myself. Meanwhile your :GMP" companies are still using a less than optimal and MORE EXPENSIVE HPLC, WTF! Now someone has their head up their ass yet we are supposed to believe their products are "as good as pharma", lol!

But that's your problem you don't know how to use analytical data and like many others only see MG or IU RESULTS! Hey did you note two of the Greys were missing THREE amino acids Bozo?

YOURE PATHETIC!
 
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CdnGuy

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I didn't pick up shit since of dr J testing. Im not thanking anyone here. All you guys want to do is bash generic hgh. The one doing the test is one of the biggest generic hgh haters. So you can go bully everyone else here but its not gonna fly with me internet tough guy. Greys are made in a regulated gmp facility. Oh so lets believe jim A nobody internet guy doing some test's or a regulated gmp facility that you think is shorting vials??? Ok good one. Done here.
After this disrespectful POS has shown this side of him. Meso members should boycott sales here. This jackass doesn't deserve to profit a single penny from Meso imo
 

Dr JIM

Member
Yep the lab tech must have plucked those AAs out of each sample one by one AFTER he took his 25% share, LMAO!

I hope Meso members understand stating Greys are "regulated by a GMP facility" doesn't mean squat bc a Good Manufacturing Facility applies to ALL food stuffs including DOG FOOD and OTC supplements and is nothing close to GH Pharma standards
 
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BigAli

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Been on 10 IU ED of the black tops for a week now and have a lot of water retention (mostly in the feet). Just started to take dandelion root to see if it will help reduce some of that. Aside from the excess water, my hands feel a bit numb but it's nothing bad whatsoever. Is it OK to keep my dose the same if the side effects are only very minor or is there a really bad reason to continue at this dose?

Did you start from 10iu per day? My personal experience for a new GH I start from 1iu per week and add 1iu everyweek. This way you will reduce the sides. Get 2 weeks off of it and then start again. You could also try clen 2 weeks on 2 weeks off 40mcg everyday split the dose to am and pm. Only if you dont have any heart problem go on Clen
 

DickySmalls

Member
Did you start from 10iu per day? My personal experience for a new GH I start from 1iu per week and add 1iu everyweek. This way you will reduce the sides. Get 2 weeks off of it and then start again. You could also try clen 2 weeks on 2 weeks off 40mcg everyday split the dose to am and pm. Only if you dont have any heart problem go on Clen

Started on "TheGreytop" @ 2 IU ED for the first week, then 3 IU ED for the 2nd week, then 4 IU ED for the 3rd week, then 5 IU ED for the 4th week, then I upped it to 6 after a week, then 7, then 8, then I upped it to 10. The last couple of days using the greys, I did 20 IU ED and that's when the sides really hit (hands a bit numb, swelling/bloat, particularly in the feet/legs). Then I switched to the blacks and have been doing 10 IU ED since last Saturday (9 days).

Anyway, what I'm really asking is: since I can tolerate these side effects (so far), is there a significant reason to lower to the dose? The extra water retention doesn't bother me (just looks ugly/disgusting) and the slight numbing of the hands is really only felt if I make a fist and even so, it doesn't hinder me inside or outside the gym.
 

BigAli

Member
well, I have a lot to say about what you asked. First of all you should know your goal. Basically the amount of GH that you take heavily depends on the level of IGF1 that your liver produces and your competition level (if you compete at all, if no there's no reason you run 10iu/day). I say this bc once you start administering GH it's not that hard to find your sweet spot meaning the max gh with max benefits and least side effects that your body can tolerate. read this: (if you see my name in it just ignore it :D)
Growth Hormone: What Is It And What Does It Do - An Expert's View!

other than CTS and water retention there's no other short-term side effect that I can think of. But we've all heard about HGH administration and cancer relation. Although, growth hormone has no mechanism to induce cancer in short-term perspective, it can accelerate development of existing tumors. GH, via somatomedin IGF-1, induce proliferation of many cells, including cancer cells. That is true, but HGH therapy (therapy not at dosages you mentioned) also stimulate thymus to produce t-cells, that are powerful killers of cancer cells. Despite this advantage, using HGH is forbidden, if you have tumor. Good Luck!
 

Littleharoldeh

Junior Member
Maybe not the right thread to ask this but I am curious. They lots of reading it sure seems to be a toss up for when to pin gh and splitting. A lot say first thing in the morning, some split morning and post workout then lots of people say right before bed. Now with generic gh, weightloss, anti aging goals, when would be the best time to pin? Also I've read if running 4iu and up to split dose. Even one post one here not long ago someone said splitting their 4iu a day at .8 iu every 3 hrs. Any opinion or thoughts greatly appreciated
 

Wunderpus

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Maybe not the right thread to ask this but I am curious. They lots of reading it sure seems to be a toss up for when to pin gh and splitting. A lot say first thing in the morning, some split morning and post workout then lots of people say right before bed. Now with generic gh, weightloss, anti aging goals, when would be the best time to pin? Also I've read if running 4iu and up to split dose. Even one post one here not long ago someone said splitting their 4iu a day at .8 iu every 3 hrs. Any opinion or thoughts greatly appreciated
I have done both. Minimal, if any, difference noticed besides the hand cramping. Less cramping if I split, I have found.
 

Pissed Off User

Junior Member
The one issue that keeps popping up concerning me is insulin resistance. Most of the advice I read on here says if you're at or under 5iu 4-5 days/wk (taking weekends off) you don't have to worry. Then I read it's a matter of not eating any carbs an hour before or after injection. Personally I do 4iu ED, split between 2iu in the morning and then before bed, do not eat an hour before or after, and take Friday night through Sunday night off. Anyone in-the-know have a moment to address this? Thanks.
 
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