Let's talk about GH (and all other shit)

Dr JIM

Member
I think that we should test some from each batch. I've ordered some from batch #16 and #17.

Who is "we", bc YOU haven't tested anything and NEVER will! Just another sideline cheerleading Noob who's "advice" and/or "support" we can do without.
 

BigAli

Member
Who is "we", bc YOU haven't tested anything and NEVER will! Just another sideline cheerleading Noob who's "advice" and/or "support" we can do without.

You're funny. No I wont use bad words against you since I'm NOT you. Lack of respect to others in these forums comes from some people like you!! The moment I posted this I PMed Mands that I can donate some vials and money if you guys ask me.

"NOOB"! Wow jim.. good job boy you are an old member of Meso!! Be proud :rolleyes:

I'm a member in this forum and thought that at least I can offer to be part of it. With respect to all the members doing all this testing for us for free except you jim I'm grateful that you are doing all the labor for us
 

BigAli

Member
^^^^^^

Yea and that's projection on your behalf, "SmallAli"

This is an AAS forum and NOT some bedside and your no patient awaiting medical assistance, The fact you can't tell the difference has some "deep root" SmallAli

What I said? "EDIT" lol
 

G.I. Bro

Member
Hmm, that hasn't been my experience. I would say i've retained a lot more of the "gains" than I do with orals like dbol. I normally do 3-4 weeks on, 2-3 weeks off insulin, depending on a number of factors. Once I need more than 16 or so ius a day to really get that pump/fullness, I discontinue usage.
Anybody feel like slin use makes them more distended than normal after a gaining phase, almost like you increased VAT deposition? I'm back and forth on slin. Last time I used it on a bulk with GH I was careful about overdoing carbs and fat in the active slin window but I still felt like I added VAT. After leaning out, abs were lean but I had more distention it seemed, like VAT or intestinal growth. I gained well using it but felt like my waistline increased more than bulking years past without it. I don't know if I believe it's the IGF-1 increasing GI/intestine thickness or VAT from slin or I'm just fucking 34 and getting fatter easier. The science and HIV literature out there leans away from it being intestinal growth from gh. I feel like that phenomenon would be well documented in high dose HIV patients. It sure seems visceral in nature though.
 

biggerben69

Member
Anybody feel like slin use makes them more distended than normal after a gaining phase, almost like you increased VAT deposition? I'm back and forth on slin. Last time I used it on a bulk with GH I was careful about overdoing carbs and fat in the active slin window but I still felt like I added VAT. After leaning out, abs were lean but I had more distention it seemed, like VAT or intestinal growth. I gained well using it but felt like my waistline increased more than bulking years past without it. I don't know if I believe it's the IGF-1 increasing GI/intestine thickness or VAT from slin or I'm just fucking 34 and getting fatter easier. The science and HIV literature out there leans away from it being intestinal growth from gh. I feel like that phenomenon would be well documented in high dose HIV patients. It sure seems visceral in nature though.
Serono EMD has the patent so there are no generics for a drug they market called Egrifta. Targets visceral fat and is intended to be used by HIV patients with distended guts caused by visceral fat.
 

G.I. Bro

Member
Serono EMD has the patent so there are no generics for a drug they market called Egrifta. Targets visceral fat and is intended to be used by HIV patients with distended guts caused by visceral fat.
Right, HIV itself causes VAT deposition called lipohypertrophy (but wasting elsewhere). So HIV patients often get rounded bellies from the disease many times. However this is not directly from the gh. The gh aids in preventing wasting and reducing VAT. We know from other literature GH clearly reduces VAT. It's quite useful there. Slin can promote it. What I'm not sold on either way is that high IGF-1, over time, doesn't increase intestine size after prolonged use. You would think this phenomenon (if so pronounced) would be indicated in the literature where patients receive high dose GH (like HIV patients). But it's simply not. It's mostly hypothesis, but I haven't seen any medical studies which conclude GH use will lead to enlarged intestines. GH with AAS certainly increases heart size so it's not a complete stretch. Organs most likely do grow. The food amounts alone, in combination with all these drugs bbs take probably enlarge the entire digestive system.

Most educated people in this debate conclude the distended guts are not directly from gh alone, but other factors in combination such as the FOOD intake (over eating), insulin and associated visceral fat disposition.
 
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Mr.B66

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So i dont know if im understanding whats going on in the other thread ( the one where im not allowed to comment in) but is Doc JIM saying he is done with testing ? If so why? I know of 2 other samples sent in by myself that were not posted and im a little curious as to why. Dont want to ask over there cause im not really digging being told by the thread cops that im not allowed to post and i dont want to upset Doc JIM cause i like the guy and respect what he's doing.
 

Dr JIM

Member
Oh @Platinum Direct is perturbed bc the answer to all HIS declining sales, the Sero assay, has yet to be posted.

So he is trying to ruin that thread by camping out on it until "that Sero is posted". So he wants to play cry baby
GAMES and pout until he receives the attention he wants.

Well let me say poor PDs in for one hell of a long wait, bc last I checked only MANDs and I have access to the
SERO analysis LMAO

And MANDS and MYSELF must BOTH agree before ANY assay is posted, GOT IT PD.
 
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Dr JIM

Member
How unfortunate for you PD where there was once ONE has become TWO, wanting to delay the SERO posting!

ENJOY!
 

BigAli

Member
I didn't know there's cops here counting how many posts members reply..lol. I call it human POSTOMETER! Don't turn this forum to a second PM retards!! :confused:
 
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Sampei

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AnabolicLab.com Supporter
You first says that you are doing it for the community and then later your start a personal
War with PD like two
Babies and will deny us the serostim assay?

Jim more you keep doing this, more your credibility will go down and I'm sorry to say it but more ppl will start believing what PM ppl are saying about our tests being inaccurate.

Is all these only about your ego?

Just post that fucking assay and shove it in their face.

Unless the serostim assay will prove them right and you wrong.... is that the reason?

Oh @Platinum Direct is perturbed bc the answer to all HIS declining sales, the Sero assay, has yet to be posted.

So he is trying to ruin that thread by camping out on it until "that Sero is posted". So he wants to play cry baby
GAMES and pout until he receives the attention he wants.

Well let me say poor PDs in for one hell of a long wait, bc last I checked only MANDs and I have access to the
SERO analysis LMAO

And MANDS and MYSELF must BOTH agree before ANY assay is posted, GOT IT PD.
 

Dr JIM

Member
So i dont know if im understanding whats going on in the other thread ( the one where im not allowed to comment in) but is Doc JIM saying he is done with testing ? If so why? I know of 2 other samples sent in by myself that were not posted and im a little curious as to why. Dont want to ask over there cause im not really digging being told by the thread cops that im not allowed to post and i dont want to upset Doc JIM cause i like the guy and respect what he's doing.

Don't worry big guy if your sample was processed of course it will be posted!

BUT THE MAIL BOX WILL BE CLOSED MONDAY and any NEW SAMPLES will be returned to the sender!
 

CdnGuy

Member
You first says that you are doing it for the community and then later your start a personal
War with PD like two
Babies and will deny us the serostim assay?

Jim more you keep doing this, more your credibility will go down and I'm sorry to say it but more ppl will start believing what PM ppl are saying about our tests being inaccurate.

Is all these only about your ego?

Just post that fucking assay and shove it in their face.

Unless the serostim assay will prove them right and you wrong.... is that the reason?
Sampei I agree with seeing the Pharm GH being posted to help better the case between the generics. But Imo the certain people that always just show up on Meso for these GH tests. Will only discredit Dr Jims work regardless !!!!!! Happened the last time on Dr Jim & Mands GH thread. Just saying
 

DickySmalls

Member
Been on 10 IU ED of the black tops for a week now and have a lot of water retention (mostly in the feet). Just started to take dandelion root to see if it will help reduce some of that. Aside from the excess water, my hands feel a bit numb but it's nothing bad whatsoever. Is it OK to keep my dose the same if the side effects are only very minor or is there a really bad reason to continue at this dose?
 
Dr Jim all ur doing with all ur talk about me is boosting my sales. Thank you . I stand fully behind all my products and not going to have one bad apple out of the batch which is you ruin it. Cheers mate.
 

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