So basically 21 days?
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Lionheadlabs: Raw Source + Domestic shipping
So basically 21 days?
LionheadLabs
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Prices increase to prices that are still cheaper than competitors.
LionheadLabs
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Didn’t you say you’re based in the US?
And your gonna keep records of people’s orders?
That sucks!
How will you know if someone isn’t just using several different emails to keep getting the discount?
This seemed smart at first but when I start thinking about it more and more it starts to sound dumb!
You’re gonna keep records so you can try to keep track of people that order, so you can offer a 3 month discount while loosing money and then extend it to lose more money?
I know you’re trying to get your foot in the door but there’s no way you’re gonna keep losing money, then extend it to keep losing more money!
So what’s your angle here!?
Not losing money, just making next to $0. Some bad apples can try to scam me, but I'm trying to do business in good faith here. If people want to dip after 3 months because they don't like me, no problem. Again as far as records, at the end of the day my squinty eyed friends have that information. I'm sure it's safe in China. If you don't like it and just want the standard pricing off the bat, fine by me. It's still marginally cheaper than dragon/panda.
Why does your shipping take so long?
I'm guessing you use a special shipping company to get you past customs -> to your US guy -> then to customer. Still shouldn't take a week over Chinese shipping times
LionheadLabs
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Just giving you an upper range estimate. Couple days to a week extra.
LionheadLabs
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I'm not very creative.
LionheadLabs
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Anyone that receives your orders online is "tracking" your information. How long they keep records of it is an unknown. Even if they delete all their shit regularly, their Chinese hook ups still keep track of regular clients. You are always taking a risk. That's just how it works.
And again if you have issue with the "tracking". Go ahead and start off with regular pricing, which is still cheaper than the others. You don't have to enjoy the savings.
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Elite
You aren’t underpricing Panda at your 3 month prices.
LionheadLabs
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Can you list specific products? Because that's very doubtful.
His Test E is like 0.88-0.6
Mine is 0.7-0.4
His HGH is 135, mine is 92. So on and so forth. I really doubt anyone is pricing this aggressively.
T-Bagger
Elite
Last I checked, his Primo E is $13.50
LionheadLabs
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His Primo E is $13.5 for the 1+ kilogram range. Mine is $9.5. So.
I hope everyone appreciates how absurd that is. And domestic shipping for US/UK is included, no extra charge. Even after this reduced pricing, it's still cheaper especially if you benefit from the domestic shipping.
You're out pricing him by what? At a wholesale price and around possibly 3 weeks of shipping. PPL is trusted here, quicker shipping, amazing stealth. Why would we pick you over him?
Do you have lab tests from your factory? Do you test the raws yourself? Do you have any in stock at the moment that you could ship domestically?
Serious question.
LionheadLabs
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That's for you to decide. This is a market, and competition is good. I'm not a panda-puppet and I think I've done enough to differentiate myself with the domestic shipping (much, much, much safer for most of you guys) and absurdly reduced pricing to get my foot in the door. If you're not interested, then that's fine by me.
Yeah there's lab tests, hit me up on email or wickr and I'll send a bunch.
And by the way, I am out-pricing him at all price ranges. I literally cannot make this any better. I'm trying to operate with good faith here.
Pretty sure panda test all his raws before he sells them for purity
Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think anyone has ever had a problem with his raws as long as he's been here. Or other boards. How do you set yourself apart
Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think anyone has ever had a problem with his raws as long as he's been here. Or other boards. How do you set yourself apart
LionheadLabs
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Free of charge domestic shipping US/UK, dramatically reduced pricing for new clients with methods to extend (referrals, posting bloods). I'm not too worried about setting myself apart beyond that. Or, were you guys cool with a monopoly on raws?
Well let me just put this out there. It's basically impossible to get in touch with a Chinese factory unless you live in China. Either you are an old source and worked with a Chinese factory before or you are currently branching off a source.
How did you differentiate yourself with domestic shipping that's much much safer. I'm confused, that wasn't explained well.
If you ever saw PPL's stealth, you would know that there is no issue with getting packs through or OPSEC issues.
You have no sample packs with you domestically in case someone wanted to use your B/W credit ASAP...? So if someone wanted to place a small order to test (lets say 5g-10g of a compound) they would still have to wait 3 weeks. Is that not a little bit ridiculous? You should post the lab tests on Meso, instead of having people contact you for them. That might give you more credibility - also not factory lab tests. Your own lab tests, because everyone knows that many Chinese factory lab tests are inaccurate and they only use one form of testing.
T-Bagger
Elite
That’s for the first 3 months. After that he beats you by 50¢
T-Bagger
Elite
Don’t stand too firmly on that statement.
T-Bagger
Elite
Free of charge domestic shipping? Wow. You are seriously trying to make a statement here with your prices, not gonna lie.
I'll keep that in mind, and change the statement. Many people here source with PPL, and he's trusted in my opinion having placed orders with him before.
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