Here are some recommendations that I previously posted to encourage a more meaningful discussion about black market sources that goes beyond a simple GTG vs. scammer label:
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What I would recommend against is calling every BAD lab a scammer. The word "scammer" is so overused that it is has become largely uninformative. As a result, it is often dismissed by a significant percentage of consumers.
There are many instances where "known scammers" continue to recruit hundreds of customers many of which are mostly satisfied with the service; customers who have repeated positive experiences with a source aren't going give much credibility to a generic, non-specific scammer alert.
This doesn't mean that there is no basis for the scammer alert. It just means that the reasons for the scammer alert have not been communicated in a manner that adequately warns consumers of potential problems with a source.
Rather than paint BAD sources with broad designations only, it would be much more useful and effective to provide explicit detail. In essence, create a thread and make a case, including as much detail as possible, about why consumers should not use a particular vendor. For example, here is a non-inclusive list of reasons that vendors have fallen under the umbrella of the "scammer" designation. The availability of these reasons may allow consumers to make better decisions.
- Arrested by law enforcement
- Supply and/or distribution chain arrested by law enforcement
- Becomes confidential informant for law enforcement
- Takes money and never ships product
- Takes money and selectively ships product
- Very complicated/restrictive/ambiguous reship policy in instances of customs seizure
- Only re-ships once in instances of customs seizure notice
- Never re-ships in instances of customs seizure
- Ships product with microbial contamination or visible contaminants
- Ships underdosed product
- Ships product with androgen other than that listed on label
- Ships product with no detectable androgens
- Ships wrong product or does not ship entire order
- Misrepresents UGL products as FDA-approved
- Does not offer replacement products to dissatisfied customers
- Packages shipped in a sloppy manner that results in damaged product
- Packages shipped in insecure manner that increases risk of customs seizure
- Takes excessive amount of time to ship order
- Responds to negative customer feedback with threats of violence or other
- Responds to negative customer feedback with organized shill attack
- Responds to negative customer feedback with dismissive or rude responses
- Customer service is inconsistent
- Takes excessive amount of time to respond to inquiries
- Fails to provide secure email address
- Fails to provide pictures of paraphernalia used in production
- Sells overpriced product
- Source is new and has no feedback and/or history
Source:
https://thinksteroids.com/community/threads/labeling-ugl-threads-gone-bad.134357592/