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[Docd187123]

I was told I can post my natty (for now lol) log here so. Here goes:

So I have decided to make another log since I decided to do an upcoming PL'ing meet...well in reality bc POB told me to .

Anyway my stats are 29yo, last I checked I was still 5'10" and I'm hovering between 192-194lbs currently. I will need to bulk up to 198 or more so time to eat like a Fatass lol. POB will be doing my programming and I will be shutting the fukk up and doing whatever he says, except when he asks for another reach around. Today was my first day back lifting in a week since the chica and I went to the Domincan Republic. I'm still trying to rehab some nagging injuries but will give it everything I have: elbow tendinitis on my left arm, tendinitis in the left knee and think it's starting in the right as well. I also fukked up my wrist at work today and am coming down with a cold so I felt horrible today but here goes:

Wave 1, Week 1, Day 1: speed deads
Speed Deadlifts: 10sets of 2 with 30sec rest intervals
Deficit deads: 5sets of 5 with 1in deficit
Good mornings: 3sets of 10
Hyper extensions: 3sets of 10
Supersetted with
Weighted incline sit-ups: 3sets of 12

^^^this workout kicked my ass and had me in the corner with a lacrosse ball trying to alleviate the back pumps. All in all was a good workout considering the time off, lack of sleep and a hectic schedule with school, and my body just feeling like shit today.
The meet is in March 2015 so I have 5months to get my ass ready for this. Thank you to POB for the coaching and his selflessness in helping me program and get ready for this and also to AlphaD, DYS & Mrs. DYS, Ron, Steeler, UHC, Beasti, the Silver Fox, Big Herm, and everybody who was at that meet who helped inspire me to do this. Without them I'd just be in the gym doing my own shit like usual. Now I have a purpose and in 5months come hell or high water my ass will be on that platform wearing DYS' pink singlet.

Workout from 11/4 ^^^. The names are ppl from other forums. I just copied and pasted my post.

 

[Docd187123]

Wave 1, Week 1, Day 2: bench day
Still getting accustomed to this workout. I'm not used to all the volume for each body part as my old training was very different so I went a bit lower than my actual maxes to allow myself to work into the program. Wrist is definitely fukked up and going to see a doctor next week for possible xray/MRI, sick as a dog, and the elbow felt prett good during floor presses and most of the pain I normally experience in the bench press was gone.
Was 189lbs, not sure how since I've been eating the same. Maybe bc of the cold. Anyway I got some chocolate milk to help with getting more calories. Going to go for 1/4-1/2 gallon a day on top of my current intake.
Bench press: 5sets of 3 @ 190lbs (allowed triceps to fully relax before pressing)
Incline dumbbell press: 3sets of 8 @ 55lbs <----had some elbow pain during these
BB Rows: 3sets of 7 @ 155lbs <-----these were smooth and easy
Dips: 3sets of 10 @ BW <----more elbow discomfort but not as much as on DB press
LTE/Skullcrushers: 3sets to failure @ 95lbs <----surprisingly no pain on these

^^^ workout 11/6

 

[Docd187123]

I missed the workout on 11/8 bc I got I to a fight on 11/7 and fukked up my hand punching somebody. Tried going to the gym 11/8 but I couldn't pick up a 10lb DB with that hand.

 

[Docd187123]

So I missed a training day Saturday bc I got into a fight Friday night. My fist was swollen and I couldn't pick up a 10lb dumbbell so I went to the track with my sister and did a couple laps around with her.
Last night, 11/11/2014
Wave 1, Week 2, Day 1: deadlift day
Deadlifts: 10sets of 1 @ 315lbs <---- was happy that my grip held up for these on my bad hand
1" Deficit deadlifts: 5sets of 5 @ 235lbs <---- once again grip held up surprisingly well
Good mornings: 3 sets of 10 @ 115lbs <---- still trying to get form right. Not done these in 5+yrs
Hyper extensions: 3sets of 10 @ 25lbs
Supersetted with
Weighted incline sit-ups: 3sets of 10 @ 50lbs
All in all was a decent day. Slept like shit so my energy wasn't like normal. Hand was fine last night but a little pain today. Nothing some Advil won't cure. Appetite isn't what it normally is and I was 190lbs yesterday morning. Need to eat more pop tarts I guess.

^^^^ workout from 11/11

 

[Docd187123]

Wave 1, Week 2, Day 2: Dynamic Bench Day
Floor press: 160lbs 10sets of 2 <---30 sec rest in between sets. Elbow felt pretty good and I felt like I could've done more but being conservative as this is my first time with this program and I need this elbow thing to fukking heal already
Incline DB press: 55lbs x 8,8,7 <---no elbow pain here
Bent over BB rows: 160lbs x 7,7,7 <---felt easy
Dips: BW + 25lb plate x 10,10, 9
Lying triceps extension (LTE): forgot the weight but did 4 sets to failure
Incline weighted leg raises for abs 20lb DB between feet for 12,12,12,12
All in all I felt pretty good today considering the horrendous sleep I'm getting and how busy I am at work and school. Weight was 195 this morning. Almost fell asleep in class so before hitting the gym I got some pop tarts and slammed 2 cups of coffee. Workout felt pretty easy overall but I know POB has a diabolical mind so looking forward to what the coming weeks have in voter.

^^^ workout from 11/13

 

[Docd187123]

Today's workout

Wave 1, Week 2, Day 3: squat day

Today was my first time squatting in 3 weeks. Form was still pretty good but felt very weak doing them and the low back pumps were in full effect. Did some hamstring dynamic stretching and lacrosse ball shit to help ease the pumps a bit

Pause Squats (3sec pause): 5sets of 3 @ 280lbs
Lying hamstring curls: 3sets of 10 couldn't tell the weight since the markings were covered
Hyperextensions: 3sets of 8 @ 25lbs
Leg press: 3sets of 20 @ 225lbs
Incline weighted sit-ups: 3sets of 10 @ 55lbs


My elbow issue flared up a bit during squats but managed to keep it from becoming debilitating. I haven't done the leg press or ham curls I over 4years or so but the person doing my programming is still getting a feel for my work load tolerance and what not so this first wave is meant to be somewhat easy. He emailed me the second wave of the programming which will begin in 2wks. I've also been advised to hop on a cruise until I'm ready to blast again and add in low dose NPP to help with my elbow/tendinitis/shoulder impingement issue and my knee issue. I don't have Npp but I do have some home brewed deca laying around and giving the cruise idea some serious thought. The reasoning behind this is that the NPP will help my injuries from keeping me from lifting how I should be and that and the test will allow my coach to add more volume to my training and get me started on some serious shit. Thoughts?

 

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I've also been advised to hop on a cruise until I'm ready to blast again and add in low dose NPP to help with my elbow/tendinitis/shoulder impingement issue and my knee issue. I don't have Npp but I do have some home brewed deca laying around and giving the cruise idea some serious thought. The reasoning behind this is that the NPP will help my injuries from keeping me from lifting how I should be and that and the test will allow my coach to add more volume to my training and get me started on some serious shit. Thoughts?

By cruise, I assume you mean TRT doses of testosterone. If you're not hypogonadal, i.e., you have normal TT when off cycle, what advantage would this have?

There's a misconception that nandrolone helps repair or heal injuries. Nandrolone, like all AAS, can lead to an increase the synthesis of collagen and it's precursors but there is no evidence this extra collagen will specifically help or repair damaged tendons, ligaments or impingement syndromes.

Nandrolone often helps painful joints *feel* better but there's no reason to think it's due to reasons other than an increase in fluid within the joint.

Here's a thread that covers this topic in detail: https://thinksteroids.com/community/threads/peptides-anabolic-steroids-aas-joints-tendons.134295950/

I know nandrolone is a popular steroid but there are better choices available for anyone who is concerned with the restoration of their HPTA. It can be very suppressive.

 

[Docd187123]

By cruise, I assume you mean TRT doses of testosterone. If you're not hypogonadal, i.e., you have normal TT when off cycle, what advantage would this have?

There's a misconception that nandrolone helps repair or heal injuries. Nandrolone, like all AAS, can lead to an increase the synthesis of collagen and it's precursors but there is no evidence this extra collagen will specifically help or repair damaged tendons, ligaments or impingement syndromes.

Nandrolone often helps painful joints *feel* better but there's no reason to think it's due to reasons other than an increase in fluid within the joint.

Here's a thread that covers this topic in detail: https://thinksteroids.com/community/threads/peptides-anabolic-steroids-aas-joints-tendons.134295950/

I know nandrolone is a popular steroid but there are better choices available for anyone who is concerned with the restoration of their HPTA. It can be very suppressive.

Thanks for the response CBS.

Yes, by cruise I mean lower, almost TRT-ish, doses. I have not done blood tests to confirm recovery after my last cycle but going solely by 'feel', I feel fine lol. My last two pre-cycle bloods had my TT at 597 and 612 I believe. The advantage is that it would allow the person in charge of my programming to increase my training volume, help with recovery from workouts, and a cruise dose of test would allow me to run a low dose of nandrolone (wouldn't want to run it without test).

Although I know a few people who have had their 'issues' permanently healed with nandrolone I'm not relying on that. The nandrolone is simply to alleviate the pain so I can keep lifting with peak performance. At the same time I'll be looking into PT but due to my schedule right now I don't know when I'll be able to do that. I understand how suppressive 19-nors are as my last cycle involved tren. I would be using HCG throughout as a means to aid in recovery also.

 

[CensoredBoardsSuck]

Yes, by cruise I mean lower, almost TRT-ish, doses. I have not done blood tests to confirm recovery after my last cycle but going solely by 'feel', I feel fine lol. My last two pre-cycle bloods had my TT at 597 and 612 I believe. The advantage is that it would allow the person in charge of my programming to increase my training volume, help with recovery from workouts, and a cruise dose of test would allow me to run a low dose of nandrolone (wouldn't want to run it without test).

Do yourself a favor and get labs done to confirm recovery before you start. Scally has mentioned a few times that he used to ask his patients whether (based on how they felt) they thought they were recovered or not and found their answers rarely correlated with the lab results.

If you're recovered now, why not just start your cycle early? What you're proposing is really a cycle anyway, albeit a low dose cycle. Or are you trying to time your cycle to coincide with a competition?

Although I know a few people who have had their 'issues' permanently healed with nandrolone I'm not relying on that. The nandrolone is simply to alleviate the pain so I can keep lifting with peak performance. At the same time I'll be looking into PT but due to my schedule right now I don't know when I'll be able to do that. I understand how suppressive 19-nors are as my last cycle involved tren. I would be using hcg throughout as a means to aid in recovery also.

Just be careful. Nandrolone is the worst offender for suppression, regardless of the ester used.

J Steroid Biochem Mol Biol. 2011 Nov;127(3-5):295-300.
Long term perturbation of endocrine parameters and cholesterol metabolism after discontinued abuse of anabolic androgenic steroids. Long term perturbation of endocri... [J Steroid Biochem Mol Biol. 2011] - PubMed - NCBI
Gårevik N, Strahm E, Garle M, Lundmark J, Ståhle L, Ekström L, Rane A.

Abstract

AIMS: To study the long-term impact of anabolic androgenic steroid (AAS) abuse on the cholesterol profile, and the potential to suppress endocrine activity in men working out at gym facilities. To study the relation between urinary biomarkers for testosterone and nandrolone abuse and the UGT2B17 genotype and time profile.

EXPERIMENTAL DESIGN: Subjects (N = 56) were recruited through Anti-Doping Hot-Line. Serum levels of luteinizing hormone (LH), follicle-stimulating hormone (FSH), plasma levels of low density lipoprotein (LDL), high density lipoprotein (HDL) and urinary steroid profile were regularly measured for a period of up to one year after cessation of intramuscular AAS abuse.

RESULTS AND DISCUSSION: A sustained suppression of LH, and FSH was observed for several months. The nandrolone urinary biomarker 19-NA was detectable several months after the last nandrolone intake and was correlated to the levels of LH and FSH. Testosterone abuse on the other hand was detectable only for a few weeks, and some of the testosterone abusers did not test positive due to a genetic deletion polymorphism of the UGT2B17. Significantly increased levels of HDL and decreased levels of LDL were observed for 6-months after cessation of AAS abuse.

CONCLUSION: Some individuals had a sustained suppression of LH and FSH for a period of 1 year whereas the cholesterol profile was normalized within 6 month. The long term consequences of these findings remain to be established.

 

[Docd187123]

Do yourself a favor and get labs done to confirm recovery before you start. Scally has mentioned a few times that he used to ask his patients whether (based on how they felt) they thought they were recovered or not and found their answers rarely correlated with the lab results.

Believe me I know all about going by feeling and by labs lol. I'm the one who is always pushing for more lab work. The only reason I haven't done so yet is bc of my school schedule, bills coming due while working much less, and I didn't expect to cycle for another 2months (was going to use pre-cycle bloods to determine my recovery from the last cycle).

If you're recovered now, why not just start your cycle early? What you're proposing is really a cycle anyway, albeit a low dose cycle. Or are you trying to time your cycle to coincide with a competition?

Correct, I'm trying to time the cycle/blast up with the actual competition. Since I'll be using long esters for everything I want to be at least 8wks or so into the cycle when the competition date comes around but I also don't want to do a 4month cycle too lol.

Yes the low doses are so that my other health markers don't stray too far from natural. Markers such as lipids, HCT/RBC, etc. I realize the cruise I'm proposing will still alter them but not to the extent that my blast will which should allow me to be on for a longer period of time.

[quoe]Just be careful. Nandrolone is the worst offender for suppression, regardless of the ester used.

J Steroid Biochem Mol Biol. 2011 Nov;127(3-5):295-300.
Long term perturbation of endocrine parameters and cholesterol metabolism after discontinued abuse of anabolic androgenic steroids. Long term perturbation of endocri... [J Steroid Biochem Mol Biol. 2011] - PubMed - NCBI
Gårevik N, Strahm E, Garle M, Lundmark J, Ståhle L, Ekström L, Rane A.

Abstract

AIMS: To study the long-term impact of anabolic androgenic steroid (AAS) abuse on the cholesterol profile, and the potential to suppress endocrine activity in men working out at gym facilities. To study the relation between urinary biomarkers for testosterone and nandrolone abuse and the UGT2B17 genotype and time profile.

EXPERIMENTAL DESIGN: Subjects (N = 56) were recruited through Anti-Doping Hot-Line. Serum levels of luteinizing hormone (LH), follicle-stimulating hormone (FSH), plasma levels of low density lipoprotein (LDL), high density lipoprotein (HDL) and urinary steroid profile were regularly measured for a period of up to one year after cessation of intramuscular AAS abuse.

RESULTS AND DISCUSSION: A sustained suppression of LH, and FSH was observed for several months. The nandrolone urinary biomarker 19-NA was detectable several months after the last nandrolone intake and was correlated to the levels of LH and FSH. Testosterone abuse on the other hand was detectable only for a few weeks, and some of the testosterone abusers did not test positive due to a genetic deletion polymorphism of the UGT2B17. Significantly increased levels of HDL and decreased levels of LDL were observed for 6-months after cessation of AAS abuse.

CONCLUSION: Some individuals had a sustained suppression of LH and FSH for a period of 1 year whereas the cholesterol profile was normalized within 6 month. The long term consequences of these findings remain to be established.[/QUOTE]

^^^ 100% agreed about nandrolone. It's a tough recovery no matter how you slice it. The thing is, is there another compound with similar benefits for joints and tendons (even if temporary)? That's the primary purpose of the nandro, to ease the pain, temporarily even, so I can do normal bench. My coach has me doing floor presses to give my elbow a break. My knee is much better; still not 100% but much better than months previous.

 

[Docd187123]

Once again, thanks for the time and effort CBS.

 

[CensoredBoardsSuck]

What's wrong with your elbow? Lateral epicondylitis? You might have mentioned it but I missed it.

 

[Docd187123]

Tbh it's never been diagnosed by a doctor but I believe it's that and medial epicondylitis and possibly some of the issue is due to injury/impingement in the shoulder on that arm.

 

[Docd187123]

Last nights workout

Wave 1, Week 3, Day 1: deadlift day

Deadlifts: 6sets of 3 @ 280lbs <--- back pumps like a mofo and pain in the arm but got through it
1" deficit pulls: 5sets of 5 @ 240lbs <--- more back pumps and more arm pain
Good mornings: 3sets of 10 @ 110lbs <----even worse back pumps lol but lacrosse ball helped

Hyper extensions: 2sets of 10 w/ 10lb DB behind the head

Supersetted with

Weighted incline sit-ups: 2sets of 12 w/ 55lb DB

All in all a good workout minus the arm pain and back pumps. Had to rush through it to get back home and prep a bit for two exams I have tomorrow.

 

[Docd187123]

Wave 1, Week 3, Day 2: bench day

Floor press: 6sets of 3 @ 190lbs
DB incline press: 55lbs x 8, 8, 6
BB rows: 3sets of 8 @ 165lbs
Dips: BW + 10lbs 10, 6, 4
LTE: 3sets to failure @ 55lbs
Abs

Shitty workout. Missed some lifts due to lack of sleep and eating, and rushed through the workout. Saturday will be a better lifting day.

 

[Docd187123]

Wave 1, Week 3, Day 3: squat day

Pause squats: 2sets of 10 @ 245lbs
Lying hamstring curls: 3sets of 10 @ 75lbs I think
Hyper extensions: 3 sets of 6 @ 25lbs
Weighted incline sit-ups: 3 sets of 10 @ 60lbs
BB curls: 3sets @ 75lbs 10, 8, 8

 

[Docd187123]

Wave 2, Week 1, Day 1: deadlift day

Deadlifts: 6sets of 3 @ 250lbs <----speed pulls
Good mornings: 3sets of 7 @ 135lbs
Stiff legged deadlifts: 3sets of 10 @ 135lbs
Hyper extensions: 3sets of 8 @ 25lbs
Weighted incline sit-ups: 3 sets of 10
BB curls: 3sets of 8 @ 80lbs

 

[Docd187123]

The building my gym is in had a gas leak on Friday effectively fukking up my schedule for lifting for this week. I'm going to have to add a training day this coming week to make up for it now. Oh well.

Wave 2, Week 1, Day 2: bench day

Bench press: 4sets of 4 @ 180lbs
BB rows: 3sets of 5 at 175lbs
OHP: 95lbs x 7, 2sets of 7 @ 100lbs
JM press: 3sets of 10 @ 95lbs <---- first time ever doing these, was painful in the elbow but I managed to work through the pain
Tricep extensions: 80lbs 4 sets to failure
Weighted incline sit-ups: 65lbs x 12, 10, 8

 

[brutus79]

Go doc- subbed

 

[Docd187123]

Wave 2, Week 1, Day 3: squat day

Box squats: 5sets of 2 @ 300lbs
Leg press: 315 x 10, 365 x 10, 10
Glute bridge: 3sets of 7 @ 135lbs
Weighted leg raises for abs