Major PIP - AGAIN

[ATodd]

BA Benyl Alcohol, EO Ethyl Oleate some have reactions to the latter.

 

[T-Diddy]

BA Benyl Alcohol, EO Ethyl Oleate some have reactions to the latter.

Yeah definitely wouldn't know that information. Reached out to my supplier and said figures most likely I am a virgin which is more than understandable.

OR

Not getting deep enough... I use 1" and have a small ass, think it is suffice, but maybe not.

 

[ATodd]

Yeah definitely wouldn't know that information. Reached out to my supplier and said figures most likely I am a virgin which is more than understandable
OR

Not getting deep enough... I use 1" and have a small ass, think it is suffice, but maybe not.

Like i said, for glutes, maybe try 1.5. Never underestimate the power of the ass. Wouldn't explain the thigh though. well, good luck, use the advise given, unless you have an infection, then see a Dr.

 

[Big_paul]

BA Benyl Alcohol, EO Ethyl Oleate some have reactions to the latter.

That could be the problem. I didn't hear about reactions until I heard about eo. I home brewed for a lot of years and the only thing to consider as far as pip was adding too much ba.

 

[Big_paul]

Yeah definitely wouldn't know that information. Reached out to my supplier and said figures most likely I am a virgin which is more than understandable.

OR

Not getting deep enough... I use 1" and have a small ass, think it is suffice, but maybe not.

Bro a 1" pin is what I have used most of the time except for when I fist started using using AAS. I figure less damage than with a 1 1/2", and I used it for all injections.

 

[ironwill1951]

sometimes it is just what the lab puts in it, or the oil they use, i have one brand i cant use i get gulf ball size lumps at injection site and bad pain , my gf uses out of the same vail and has no problem with it , try a different brand ..

 

[T-Diddy]

Well after laying on a heat pad for a better part of last night and this morning it is getting only slightly better. Still have a huge long lump and my glute flares out substantially.

I injected Thursday night and is now Monday morning and still this bad!

I will be doing my next shot in a few minutes, just warming it up with a heat pad prior to injecting.

 

[Millard]

Stop. Avoid any UGL product that gives you this type of PIP. If one injection causes a little PIP, don't you think repeated injections in the same area with same product could continue to make it worse?

 

[T-Diddy]

Stop. Avoid any UGL product that gives you this type of PIP. If one injection causes a little PIP, don't you think repeated injections in the same area with same product could continue to make it worse?

I only have access to UGL's don't have the other luxury of human grade, etc.

Its not EVERY single pin, its pretty much half of them so far.

I have a feeling its not getting deep enough in the glute and my right glute just HATES the shit. I pin with 1" 25G.

Left thigh coming right up.

 

[T-Diddy]

PIP is PIP and I can accept 3 of my 6 injections so far... But at a 50% failure rate suppose I was looking for more tips. I can appreciate the suck it up buttercup approach as that is the way I think as well be seriously I would say 2 of the 6 are debilitating.

My thighs seem to be the most acceptable, except for the 1 time I think I hit a nerve. I know what that feeling is and if I it it again will just pull out and re-pin.

So for the existing PIP does acetaminophen, ibuprofen even work for this sort of stuff? I never use the shit but will if it can get me through my workout today.

 

[Millard]

It's either product or injection technique /procedure. What you think?

Even if you must use UGL product, it doesn't mean PIP is inevitable ; some UGLs just don't know how to make good product. Bottom line is we should stop accepting PIP as normal or some type of badge of hard-core-ness.

 

[rutman]

I'd filter it into a new sterile vial. Could be some kind of impurity in there. If that didn't work, I'd chunk it...

 

[youngBuilder]

My friend used T400 and had exactly what your describing. Debilitating for 6-7 days...it was a too notch UGL back then.

On the forum someone told him to add 1cc of sterile Cottonseed Oil to his 1cc of T400 (400mhs/mL) and it cured him. He almost quit the cycle after the first 4 or 5 weeks but was able to finish it and never had an issue again. If you can't switch gear, try that...

It just reminded me when you said 50% of injections were ok and the other half dibilitating. It was the same issue with him where anything but a perfect injection technique would make him feel like he got a sledge hammer to the ass. Adding in the extra oil might do it for you.

 

[Big_paul]

PIP is PIP and I can accept 3 of my 6 injections so far... But at a 50% failure rate suppose I was looking for more tips. I can appreciate the suck it up buttercup approach as that is the way I think as well be seriously I would say 2 of the 6 are debilitating.

My thighs seem to be the most acceptable, except for the 1 time I think I hit a nerve. I know what that feeling is and if I it it again will just pull out and re-pin.

So for the existing PIP does acetaminophen, ibuprofen even work for this sort of stuff? I never use the shit but will if it can get me through my workout today.

That is why I think it is more likely to be your technique, Ir it was the gear, I think you would react every time. It takes time to get it down. When I first started I would get all tense, start sweating and hands shaking You know noob stuff.

 

[T-Diddy]

Left quad injection yesterday is just minor charlie horse pain today. Little tight in the upper quad when I bend my knee but nothing to overly complain of. Hopefully they will get easier over the next few weeks.

Think I will refuse to do my glutes going forward, timid on my delts but they do come highly suggested but might give it a go on Thursday.

 

[fastasf]

It doesn't necessarily have to be injection technique causing the pip. The 2 big UGLs currently on this board caused me very different reactions and I've been pinning for a long time. One of them hurt like a motherfucker every time. The other was painless every time. This is TEST E I'm talking about too. A lot of it can depend on the brewers ability and/or the amount of BA used. Also, as others mentioned, you could be having a reaction to EO. I can't pin gear with EO. It gives me an infection nearly every time.

 

[T-Diddy]

Still a HUGE lump on my ass and this is day 5!

 

[Colt44]

Have you actually heeded any of the advice given or do you just keep pinning that shit expecting different results?

 

[ATodd]

I heard somewhere that was the definition of insanity. It's tough to get to the gym, let alone workout, if you can't walk. Maybe you could get in one of those wheel chair basketball leauges.
atodd

 

[T-Diddy]

Many relate it to being virgin muscle, thus just have to get use to the gear in a matter of time. A number of noobs have indicated they had PIP up until 6-10 injections. Still learning what is good, what isn't.

Right glute seems to hate life, while the left glute was somewhat decent. Quads just feel like a tolerable charlie horse except for the time I must have hit a nerve, but lesson learned and know what that feeling is like. I had to pull out twice in my last thigh injection do to that feeling I had learned the first time around.

So learning particular parts of my body where it is more than tolerable and going from there.