Mass Spec Thread

Yes but many of us both teach AND do research and the focus of research is a steady evolving process. True,Mr. Mercury,maybe you can piece your needs out somewhat cheaply. WELL!

GOOSE

Regards..GOOSE

I have pretty good idea about the instruments, I have been on it for 10-15 years looking for ways to find good gear.

I have talked to experts lab people it can be done if you have money, this is not the instruments alone, parts to fix this, solvents, all the setup. For GC/MS you need bottle with compressed gas I cannot keep it in my living room.

For me at this point is more practical to pay a lab $200.
 
you just need a good eye and some practice, you buy the test kit for $200 and you have 40 test vials, you go to a lab you pay $200 for single test if you are lucky to find one. You get the idea.

I have been using the test kit for some time and it helped me to find really good gear but it took a good few trials and errors to figure it out.
Me again,Mr Mercury AND MR.Muscle....In almost EVERY STATE it is illegal for the individual to simply take a sample of an illegal substance to a reputable lab!! If it is illegal to possess then its illegal for both the consumer and lab to possess th AAS or any other chemical requiring a prescription to even HAVE. We will need to get around that one huh?! I do not use marijuana,for instance(too poor) but unless I were in one of the "enlightened States"n the mere act of buying ,possessing,or even giving it away are illegal(thus,you will have to sneak it to a lab willing to process the sample!!!!) OR ID BE BUSTED!!! and so is the lab. So I fear it will be tough to find a lab to accept illegal substances for study! LE will darn sure stake the labs out!! And I MUST say this...labmax or gc/ms? You sure don't need me to advise you that in comparison...one tells you not only IF the substance you wish is IN the sample but WHAT % is in it! That leaves LabMax OUT!!! A. VERY intelligent fellow and I brought this up...there is a process called quantitative analysis. It TOO has the same limitations in that it is illegal to posess the drug,etc to TAKE it for analysis huh WHWLIVES? GOOD EVENING GENTLEMEN And BE FREE FROM LE!!!!!!!!!!!!! GOOSE
 
Me again,Mr Mercury AND MR.Muscle....In almost EVERY STATE it is illegal for the individual to simply take a sample of an illegal substance to a reputable lab!! If it is illegal to possess then its illegal for both the consumer and lab to possess th AAS or any other chemical requiring a prescription to even HAVE. We will need to get around that one huh?! I do not use marijuana,for instance(too poor) but unless I were in one of the "enlightened States"n the mere act of buying ,possessing,or even giving it away are illegal(thus,you will have to sneak it to a lab willing to process the sample!!!!) OR ID BE BUSTED!!! and so is the lab. So I fear it will be tough to find a lab to accept illegal substances for study! LE will darn sure stake the labs out!! And I MUST say this...labmax or gc/ms? You sure don't need me to advise you that in comparison...one tells you not only IF the substance you wish is IN the sample but WHAT % is in it! That leaves LabMax OUT!!! A. VERY intelligent fellow and I brought this up...there is a process called quantitative analysis. It TOO has the same limitations in that it is illegal to posess the drug,etc to TAKE it for analysis huh WHWLIVES? GOOD EVENING GENTLEMEN And BE FREE FROM LE!!!!!!!!!!!!! GOOSE
im curious Mr. Mercury,you being an expert on MS/GC and all..In your opinion, Is Mass spectrometry/Gas chromatography a kit like Labmax?
 
Okaaaay, honestly I've a bit crosseyed after reading the last couple of pages. Goose relax a bit bro. Sure, I spout off a bit at the mouth a bit when irritated by the statements of others, especially when I know better. But If i got agitated to that point I WOULD end up with a keratin bowel obstruction and a fresh Mr. Clean hairstyle. Funny story, I had a physics professor who looked like Jesus at the begining of the semester. As the year progressed he stopped grading homework, didn't come with lesson plans and was suffering from trichotillomania. (Well honestly, I don't k now if he was eating his hair, but it was disappearing in large clumps) Finally, when we were complaining that he had not returned our mid-term after 3 weeks, I witnessed someone actually have a nervous breakdown. He kept telling us how he was an adjunct and the school only paid him $1500 per class, started sobbing uncontrollably, telling us over and over how he had a Ph.D. and couldn't feed his kids. Then it was just more crying and weird noises coming from him. Most of us just walked out and got pizza. Never saw him again. Still makes me giggle.
atodd
 
im curious Mr. Mercury,you being an expert on MS/GC and all..In your opinion, Is Mass spectrometry/Gas chromatography a kit like Labmax?
If you can find a laboratory where steroids(AAS) are legal to test(In the United States of America) Or a state,locality,etc where you can possess A vial,amp,etc of AAS even for the purposes
im curious Mr. Mercury,you being an expert on MS/GC and all..In your opinion, Is Mass spectrometry/Gas chromatography a kit like Labmax?
It sure seems like it but ivw known this piece of work since october
Okaaaay, honestly I've a bit crosseyed after reading the last couple of pages. Goose relax a bit bro. Sure, I spout off a bit at the mouth a bit when irritated by the statements of others, especially when I know better. But If i got agitated to that point I WOULD end up with a keratin bowel obstruction and a fresh Mr. Clean hairstyle. Funny story, I had a physics professor who looked like Jesus at the begining of the semester. As the year progressed he stopped grading homework, didn't come with lesson plans and was suffering from trichotillomania. (Well honestly, I don't k now if he was eating his hair, but it was disappearing in large clumps) Finally, when we were complaining that he had not returned our mid-term after 3 weeks, I witnessed someone actually have a nervous breakdown. He kept telling us how he was an adjunct and the school only paid him $1500 per class, started sobbing uncontrollably, telling us over and over how he had a Ph.D. and couldn't feed his kids. Then it was just more crying and weird noises coming from him. Most of us just walked out and got pizza. Never saw him again. Still makes me giggle.
atodd
 
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It sure seems like it but ivw known this piece of work since october[/QUOTE]

Fair enough, history definately contributes to frustration level.
atodd
 
So is mercury affiliated with labmax or what?
Aw c'mon atodd...lighten up on my being down!!! No but seriously. At first I was gonna treat everyone to one of my two page treatises. But upon reading your post(after I quit lmfao'ing all over the house) I realized A) you had broken my spell of being bummed out over my cat having a swollen testicle. Seriously.....that is why I was hanging on so intently! I like my cat more than I do many people. B) you actually had me laughing! God I needed to just laugh! I won't get into why but suffice it to say I've been bummed for two whole days. I know you had to look up trichitillitoma's definition(I think) so I guess,good or bad someone cares. Having someone overreact to my overreaction is gratifying..in light of both my depression and my cats I owe ya! AND although I shouldn't....you can still hang out with kids if you care to! I'm glad you helped my NOT let merkry keep buggin' me. Because all he was doing was bullying me really and he's still pissed that I was once friends with Pep. Blah,blah,blah. Hey Atodd really thank you! Gentlemen..have a great Holiday! Goose
 
No prob bro, I know what it's like to get aggrivated, trust me. So I like to amuse myself and think back to simpler times. College, the best 10 years of my life. Honestly, i did look it up, I knew it involved pulling out one's hair, but not the eating part. I had seen that disorder on the show "strang addictions". Anyway, the story is %100 true and made me laugh as well. So thank you, for reminding me. Enjoy your 4th.
atodd
 
Aw c'mon atodd...lighten up on my being down!!! No but seriously. At first I was gonna treat everyone to one of my two page treatises. But upon reading your post(after I quit lmfao'ing all over the house) I realized A) you had broken my spell of being bummed out over my cat having a swollen testicle. Seriously.....that is why I was hanging on so intently! I like my cat more than I do many people. B) you actually had me laughing! God I needed to just laugh! I won't get into why but suffice it to say I've been bummed for two whole days. I know you had to look up trichitillitoma's definition(I think) so I guess,good or bad someone cares. Having someone overreact to my overreaction is gratifying..in light of both my depression and my cats I owe ya! AND although I shouldn't....you can still hang out with kids if you care to! I'm glad you helped my NOT let merkry keep buggin' me. Because all he was doing was bullying me really and he's still pissed that I was once friends with Pep. Blah,blah,blah. Hey Atodd really thank you! Gentlemen..have a great Holiday! The lllllGoose
The BEST TEN YEARS of your life,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, that's actually funnuy Bro! I WISH I could SPend 6 more! Ill need 2 Mire to ge he get PhD!! If I do at least an extra SUMMER and HARD TOO!!!!
 
The people want 'Dr.' Goose!
Remember Noah_k? you were my SECOND friend when I arrived here in earnest to begin to learn and learn to share. It was a rocky time but I was,and still am glad I came this way! I'd be less than honest if I said it has all been a bed of roses, But I have steadily worked toward my goal of meeting new and certainly interesting people to share the journey. I have rarely been one to concern myself too staunchly with what others say or do to derail me from my goals and now is no different. There is definitely a new element to this attitude,however, because I myself am interested in reciprocating by availing myself whenever possible, to anyone at any time, if I can be of any use to a Brother here on Meso. I am NOT ensuring that I can be but I da** sure will do my level best! Personal Insight: Sometimes I spew bravado when Im really feeling overwhelmed by life,not unlike some others. What we do here at Meso can have such powerful, far-reaching ramifications both together and as individuals. I have been sober going on nine years. So what? Big deal! Well it sure as he** is to me. Since I came here at the end of 2011, some very important people(in my clique) on this board have buyoed me at very critical junctures and truthfully,had it NOT been for these persons, I may not be alive. Again..So what?, Big deal! Well I have a new grandson who may someday appreciate their efforts, as do I. Why am I risking telling of my innermost secrets? For now it is one of the most significant ways I've thought of to say "thank you, sincerely" for your efforts. Someday maybe I can do more. I sure hope so. It would be an exercise(an exercise on Meso of a different stripe) in futility were I to try and thank these people individually as sometimes they may not be aware that they were(are) of the utmost significance in my maintaining this personal liberty. Ive a feeling many of you ARE aware of who you are to me! Yes,I am a bit shaken by doing this here and now so overshadowed and so close chronologically to a much different and grander struggle for independence. I guess I'm afraid I'll be rejected out of hand ..I hope I NEVER lose that sense of fear as fear can be a valuable commodity. If this sounds corny, then so be it! If I seem weak, no worries because Ive grown exponentially since arriving. Really, Men, I think part of me wants to just say" Hey..I'm Here! and for what its worth,Im alive and now have some Awesome Friends RIGHT HERE ON MESO RX!!!"

Thank you all so much for allowing me to try to exorcise this very real demon. I used to think that I'd participated in some very frightening and daunting challenges. Boy was I wrong! Ive not been this petrified in a long time.I used to think self-disclosure was largely optional, but in this case I had little, if any choice. If I hoped to end my days still sober AND somewhat at peace, I had to continue to reach out for support and pray it came. How dare I take up Ya'lls time? again,I HAD to! I have reversed myself once more and this time I choose to live..as non-controversially as a fellow like me can. Please try to understand. It was a full-pardon or life beneath a rock. I wasnt sure if I would EVER make it as a civilian and yet the jury is still out. Again, I wanted to live and was forced above-ground. I've tried a number of approaches to fit in, And this seemed like my only way. As usual, probably an unconventional way but I'm an unconventional man(and some might add a bit eccentric, or worse) Finally I had to choose a forum and sub-forum exactly as these two are.."the Underground" and "Mass Spec." Mass Spec" especially because I believe that a Mass spec. is Science,as we know it's Best Chance at revealing a thing for what it truly is: No ifs,ands nor buts. I suppose I tried to identify with M.S./G.C. God help me! And I shall close now,finally,By asking my friends to remain so and those who dont like me to please, try again. If your not sure..at least give it a shot!! I do this,not for sympathy but only to reinforce that which I feel when I offer friendship, it is as a minor historical guide on my psyche. For me, friendship is forever and all-encompassing. Nothing is left off of the table. By asking those who dont care for me to please try again as I say, that which may have may been a barrier to friendship may feel I am ever-changing as a person and what could never have been may now be likely. And those who dont know..well, aside from being what some say eccentric, I feel it is worth trying as a friend of mine endures likely forever and to whatever benefit friendship brings. Seems oddly formulaic but it is true friendsfor life!

Best Regards Always,Goose
 
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I have pretty good idea about the instruments, I have been on it for 10-15 years looking for ways to find good gear.

I have talked to experts lab people it can be done if you have money, this is not the instruments alone, parts to fix this, solvents, all the setup. For GC/MS you need bottle with compressed gas I cannot keep it in my living room.

For me at this point is more practical to pay a lab $200.
Why? often its only a noble gas..pretty harmless. Im gonna cut SORTA TO THE CHASE try n keep a yearss worth of crud DOWN...GOOSE
Mr. Mercury..as long as you persist in this foolishness, I will poke and jab at you until you are no longer happily trying to pis** me off for no good reason, other than, I suspect, your long-standing and idiotic Hatfield-McCoy feud with PEP. And your perception that You and I must be enemies since he and I got along nicely! Wanna know the truth? I felt you got messed over w/ the dirty gear and I supported you in principal,always. How did I wind up on your chopping block?? You and I were never friends,not that we should NOT have been! As I said I did honestly support your position unflinchingly! Listen...I got carried away but whaddya say we just leave one another alone bitch**g-wise!!! COOL? We never had a beef anyway.. cmon Merk,whaddya say Pal???? I use tmo too and theyare ripping us ALL off!!!! lets dont attack one another!!!
Have a great day and please be well!!!! GOOSE
Pep and I did business and it was,apparently just that..business. You and I sacrificed a potential friendship for no good reason..I still dont get that..Too much H2O under the bridge now i suspect. however I do,on occasion read your posts and you seem sound usuallu(as ayone does.

I did not understand how you garnered SO MUCH Support from the forum though. You got shi**y gear abd from that day forward and NEVER relented shredded the man for what seemed to be the only basis for ANY of your posts which you and a friend quickly made a posting career based SOLELY on that one issue..after awhileretty much EVERYONE I comm'ed with were AMAZED how you guys racked up literally HUNDREDS,if not MORE posts even when you were dealt with as things were asked of him. Again, Why did we have to tangle and why a year or more later do you hound me? Im NOT here to be your whipping-post and would ask that you PLEASE quit harranguing me Plese and I will NEVER respond to your harassment if that is what is required to bury the hatchet. Sound fair? I hope so
 
Why? often its only a noble gas..pretty harmless. Im gonna cut SORTA TO THE CHASE try n keep a yearss worth of crud DOWN...GOOSE
Mr. Mercury..as long as you persist in this foolishness, I will poke and jab at you until you are no longer happily trying to pis** me off for no good reason, other than, I suspect, your long-standing and idiotic Hatfield-McCoy feud with PEP. And your perception that You and I must be enemies since he and I got along nicely! Wanna know the truth? I felt you got messed over w/ the dirty gear and I supported you in principal,always. How did I wind up on your chopping block?? You and I were never friends,not that we should NOT have been! As I said I did honestly support your position unflinchingly! Listen...I got carried away but whaddya say we just leave one another alone bitch**g-wise!!! COOL? We never had a beef anyway.. cmon Merk,whaddya say Pal???? I use tmo too and theyare ripping us ALL off!!!! lets dont attack one another!!!
Have a great day and please be well!!!! GOOSE
Pep and I did business and it was,apparently just that..business. You and I sacrificed a potential friendship for no good reason..I still dont get that..Too much H2O under the bridge now i suspect. however I do,on occasion read your posts and you seem sound usuallu(as ayone does.

I did not understand how you garnered SO MUCH Support from the forum though. You got shi**y gear abd from that day forward and NEVER relented shredded the man for what seemed to be the only basis for ANY of your posts which you and a friend quickly made a posting career based SOLELY on that one issue..after awhileretty much EVERYONE I comm'ed with were AMAZED how you guys racked up literally HUNDREDS,if not MORE posts even when you were dealt with as things were asked of him. Again, Why did we have to tangle and why a year or more later do you hound me? Im NOT here to be your whipping-post and would ask that you PLEASE quit harranguing me Plese and I will NEVER respond to your harassment if that is what is required to bury the hatchet. Sound fair? I hope so
 
So I've read as much as I can find on the mass spec testing is there anyone or a thread That can point to a few obvious questions I can't seem to locate. Are these tests conducted in the USA or EU, Is there info on who is actually conducting the tests?
Not implying any wrong doing, just asking or is everyone just relying on a memeber or two's word? This is a excellent addition to the community BUT it could also be a giant moneymaker for someone with less than upfront motives. Again don't start the stoning, I'm just being thorough, this could be great or a great hoax depending on who's actually conducting the tests.
Like Goose said it ain't happening in the USA, nobody in their right mind would risk jail, having the VERY expensive machine confiscated and losing their license. The risks from this are immense, I just don't see a legit company risking this.
But I could be wrong, that's why I'm asking
 
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