Mass Spec Thread

[TheGuy85]

University students with access to equipment? Anyone who has access to the equipment could technically do it. I doubt jail time would be likely but who would risk their career? Only someone who knows they won't get caught. If I was a professor at a university and I had access to a chem lab with the necessary equipment, I could easily run these tests, especially if I was an advisor over the department. Nobody is going to question you. I guess LE could try to set you up somehow.

But the reality is most people aren't going to risk their careers over this, even if the risk is low, unless they are desperate or into something very lucrative.

 

[graniteman]

University students with access to equipment? Anyone who has access to the equipment could technically do it. I doubt jail time would be likely but who would risk their career? Only someone who knows they won't get caught. If I was a professor at a university and I had access to a chem lab with the necessary equipment, I could easily run these tests, especially if I was an advisor over the department. Nobody is going to question you. I guess LE could try to set you up somehow.

But the reality is most people aren't going to risk their careers over this, even if the risk is low, unless they are desperate or into something very lucrative.

This may be possible once or twice but for it to be a regular thing with the amount being sent is not going to happen. Not to mention the receiver would be getting more usps traffic than a source. Like you said why would someone risk everything for a few hundred bucks. Jus wondering out loud, I've seen these tests offered at hem'eroids but I don't trust anything about hem'eroids operators.
Not questioning anyones integrity, I know a few of the guys posting but at the end point this could be a scammers DELIGHT. People sending you gear and money??! Now that's a scammers dream

 

[MANWHORE]

Well, just look at who is doing the testing here

 

[JackC4]

This may be possible once or twice but for it to be a regular thing with the amount being sent is not going to happen. Not to mention the receiver would be getting more usps traffic than a source. Like you said why would someone risk everything for a few hundred bucks. Jus wondering out loud, I've seen these tests offered at hem'eroids but I don't trust anything about hem'eroids operators.
Not questioning anyones integrity, I know a few of the guys posting but at the end point this could be a scammers DELIGHT. People sending you gear and money??! Now that's a scammers dream

Nice to see you here granite

 

[Juice n Goose]

So I've read as much as I can find on the mass spec testing is there anyone or a thread That can point to a few obvious questions I can't seem to locate. Are these tests conducted in the USA or EU, Is there info on who is actually conducting the tests?
Not implying any wrong doing, just asking or is everyone just relying on a memeber or two's word? This is a excellent addition to the community BUT it could also be a giant moneymaker for someone with less than upfront motives. Again don't start the stoning, I'm just being thorough, this could be great or a great hoax depending on who's actually conducting the tests.
Like Goose said it ain't happening in the USA, nobody in their right mind would risk jail, having the VERY expensive machine confiscated and losing their license. The risks from this are immense, I just don't see a legit company risking this.
But I could be wrong, that's why I'm asking

No company,legit or otherwise WOULD do this!!!! It would be illegal for,say,You to present a vial of TEST to any company as they would now be in possession of an illegal substance without a valid prescription. Likewise you're not supposed to possess it either! Remember? It could be a moneymaker but more likely a one-way ticket to Federal prison as DID happen several years ago in Colorado! LOSE/LOSE!!! NO BODY on THIS board would EVER nor have they EVER offered these services to ANYONE at ANYTIME!!!!!!!!! THAT would be FOOLISH and no one with these capabilities is that foolish. I would know as would any of the members on OUR board!! No one will do this for anyone else even for free as it would be illegal. Would you roll up to your local testing lab with a Bag of Heroin and ask them,for a fee or otherwise to test its purity ot legitimacy? Well maybe you would but I think the door to the lab would slam shut awfully fast. LE would just love to have this goin' on...easy pickings. Testing could be done anywhere the instruments exist as that would be the only limitation,other than the illegality of it. If it were going on one would not have to rely on anyones wors as the instrument is capable of printing out a full report of the testing. I reccomend some internet reagent testing for you...nice and legal unless you test illegal substances!! Of course whether or not a certain substance is present in sample is quite subjective and they do not pretend to tell you the purity of the sample as these tests aren't sophisticated enough. But if you're itchin' to spend 200$....its as good a way as any I suppose. I hope this was beneficial to your clearer understanding. I wish you a good day mr.granite and,please...be well! Goose

 

[MANWHORE]

People in clubs had extacy tested, for free..
Legally and the club knew about it.

 

[Juice n Goose]

I did NOT intend for my earlier reply to sound smug as I am actually a VERY PRO-Member guy. I just wanted to be sincere as well as thorough as to the particulars og MS/GC testing and its potential broader implications. You are right,this form of testing IS the "Holy of Holy's" in the scientific world as it is kind of like DNA testing,subject only to the error of instrumentation and technician/engineer. Also like DNA testing. Too bad its illegal not unlike AAS is in my state and many others(maybe ALL others for all I know) it would certainly put an end to questions of legitimacy and purity for one of our favorite hobbies. The holy grail,of sorts. Btw, welcome mr. Granite...it will be great to have a member here with your high level of intuition and logic assessment! This place is nirvana to many of us and as an uncensored(to an enormous extent..can't kill anyone nor offer to) board it is certainly unique among other boards! Again, welcome home. Goose

 

[MassTurk]

Welcome back goose

 

[Juice n Goose]

Welcome back goose

Thanks Brother. Still staying active I see. Yeah we had some pretty meaningful goings-on over here huh?? Keep in touch MASS T! Goose

 

[brutus79]

This may be possible once or twice but for it to be a regular thing with the amount being sent is not going to happen. Not to mention the receiver would be getting more usps traffic than a source. Like you said why would someone risk everything for a few hundred bucks. Jus wondering out loud, I've seen these tests offered at hem'eroids but I don't trust anything about hem'eroids operators.
Not questioning anyones integrity, I know a few of the guys posting but at the end point this could be a scammers DELIGHT. People sending you gear and money??! Now that's a scammers dream

what's up gman? good to see you in the hood.

 

[johnnyBALLZ]

Nice to see you here granite

what's up gman? good to see you in the hood.

What's up granite? I think I've seen you at TID?? Regardless, 2 of my boys are welcoming you so I feel I should say what's up!!

Nice to see you back as well goose!!

 

[brutus79]

Granite is a straight up dude. He is ugbb faithful too.

 

[hvyhitter]

You should test with HPLC instead of mass spec.

 

[Juice n Goose]

You should test with HPLC instead of mass spec.

HPLC is high performance liquid chromatography...a different form of chromatography. Same issues. Still used with a mass spectrometer. Just uses evaporative light scanning to read column. Just as expensive. Same legal issues. Liquid chromatography is awesome too!!! Just gotta find the proper UV absorbance detector. Still can't ship your AAS to one of these Labs. Still illegal. But you gotta love HPLC!!! Thanks Man. There are any number of destructive testing methods. Instrumentation is prohibitively expensive! It will be great when all of this equipment is miniaturized and coupled to a home computer. Goose

 

[graniteman]

Hey Gents, good to see the brotha's in the room. Brutus, JB, Jc.

Goose, Don't know where we went off the rails but I'm agreeing with you my friend. I've seen the mass spec threads on a few boards and one place I wouldn't go near 'hem'eroids''. There is zero chance of this being done in the USA. A guy might sneak one test in but no way multiple. There is wedinos in The UK but it has some qualifications but is a possibility. Even with wedinos if you're sending in multiple samples you will get flagged at the least.

My point is and I'm not implying wrong doing on anyone's end except ''possibly''' hypothetically'' the end receiver. It could be some guy laughin his ass off getting gear and cash all month every month by simply printing out charts avaiable on the internet.
Remember the mob mentality on the labmax tests.
Might be a top of the line solid gold Brother offering the services but for this type of testing I personally need more info than ''Yea, the test is legit''

 

[tacohuman]

No offense, but its very easy to get away with running some tests if you're the individual responsible for testing. As a company it wouldn't be possible, but most of the time the bosses just don't care to ask or aren't around.

Nosey coworkers are the real concern. Its safer to test if you work night shift.

 

[Juice n Goose]

Hey Gents, good to see the brotha's in the room. Brutus, JB, Jc.

Goose, Don't know where we went off the rails but I'm agreeing with you my friend. I've seen the mass spec threads on a few boards and one place I wouldn't go near 'hem'eroids''. There is zero chance of this being done in the USA. A guy might sneak one test in but no way multiple. There is wedinos in The UK but it has some qualifications but is a possibility. Even with wedinos if you're sending in multiple samples you will get flagged at the least.

My point is and I'm not implying wrong doing on anyone's end except ''possibly''' hypothetically'' the end receiver. It could be some guy laughin his ass off getting gear and cash all month every month by simply printing out charts avaiable on the internet.
Remember the mob mentality on the labmax tests.
Might be a top of the line solid gold Brother offering the services but for this type of testing I personally need more info than ''Yea, the test is legit''

My bad on the stiff,wise-guy response. I apologize. Spent about three hours explaining it to someone who just wasn't getting it. Only to discover he has some deal with Labmax!!! I was gonna choke him but don't wanna get banned!!! Yes, I too need a bit of substantiating myself. And the thought of sending someone BOTH CASH AND GEAR....forget about it eh? Yes, if you know people at a lab you could "hypothetically" get away with it but I think LE is just aching for some guys to try!! Haha! Orobably wondering why it doesn't go on yet! Again,sorry if I came off like an a**hole. I sure didn't mean to. I'd like to "unring" THAT bell!!! See you around Granite! Goose

 

[brutus79]

My bad on the stiff,wise-guy response. I apologize. Spent about three hours explaining it to someone who just wasn't getting it. Only to discover he has some deal with Labmax!!! I was gonna choke him but don't wanna get banned!!! Yes, I too need a bit of substantiating myself. And the thought of sending someone BOTH CASH AND GEAR....forget about it eh? Yes, if you know people at a lab you could "hypothetically" get away with it but I think LE is just aching for some guys to try!! Haha! Orobably wondering why it doesn't go on yet! Again,sorry if I came off like an a**hole. I sure didn't mean to. I'd like to "unring" THAT bell!!! See you around Granite! Goose

that fucking cocksucker mercury has a deal with labmax?

 

[johnnyBALLZ]

that fucking cocksucker mercury has a deal with labmax?

I hope not but that would explain some things.

 

[pumpingiron22]

So do you think labmax is not as efficient in detecting. Goose? I have heard issue here lately.