*** Mass Specs on CBL HGH ***

[Carlito]

Why do you keep editing and changing your post?

Because I really don't want to ruin the entire forum (AB) because a few bad apples such as you and the other VIPs.

 

[muscle96ss]

Because I really don't want to ruin the entire forum (AB) because a few bad apples such as you and the other VIPs.

And what exactly did I do??

I came to the party way late and simply asked you for an explanation on how you expect unlypholized GH to remain stable during transit and when reconstituted. Unfortunately, to this day, you still haven't answered that question and instead chose to attack me. I backed off for a while, but when the lab test came back bunk what did you do? Instead of looking into things further, you chose to attack the test and those involved in the test. You offered no evidence of any kind(IGF-1, serum GH, lab test, anything that would show otherwise). Anyone can see by your responses, not only did you not give a shit, but it became quite obvious that you knew it was bunk GH from the beginning and this whole ordeal was nothing but a huge scam on your part. Now you are sour grapes because you got caught.

 

[Carlito]

What are you talking about?? Why don't you be more specific, so whomever you are making accusations against can defend themselves. I have only been a VIP there for a few years; but have never seen that. And it doesn't make sense; why would someone allow someone to sell "garbage" to VIP's? Let me guess; being a VIP is really just a set-up to rip them off?

And actually I have been a member of Meso since early 2000's when it was a source board. I was absent for some years when the format changed and had to start over when I came back. And I'm not sure what that has to do with anything anyways.

What do I hope to accomplish here? Simply setting the record straight. You had a really good reputation at AB for years but lately something happened and you have been acting completely out of character. And the posts you made on your way out were way out of line and completely over the edge. You are not the victim. This all could have been handled in a much better manner, but you chose to take the low, low route. And then when its all over, you still aren't satisfied and come here to reignite the fire and talk shit about AB. You can anything you want, just provide actual facts and evidence.

Not true, you hacked into my account and even uploaded an avatar without my permission then went on to edit my posts. BY garbage I mean the recs and meds you guys sell in your little VIP forum, one of your own told me and I always suspected that but to tell you the truth I don't care what you guys do.
Once the good reviews came in you VIPs didnt like it one bit so you sent your attack dogs that are not even worth mentioning to start bashing me on my own thread, a paid sponsored thread I may add. Do that to Karius and you will see what happens. So for 3 months your cronies were bashing me in my own thread and I completely ignored them. By then I knew I didnt want to renew because I knew what was going on so yes I started hitting back and you never expected how hard you got hit. It was me against 6-7 of you and you guys failed not only at extorting me but at bringing me down. You planned it all along to post a fake test result but what is funny to me is that you were bashing Jano during the time you were discussing who to go to for a test mmmm. You still hired Jano and he fabricated a fake test results and also asked two other members to join into the scheme. Funny how only 2 out of dozens complained about the GH and what is even more suspicious is that both claimed they used 10ius a day for several months when I just sold 3 kits to one of them but he said he was on his 5th kit, caught him in his lie.
BTW CBL started here on MEso and still has a good reputation, is not what I say or do, is the product and service provided throughout the years, 300+ private clients remember that amigo.

 

[Carlito]

And what exactly did I do??

I came to the party way late and simply asked you for an explanation on how you expect unlypholized GH to remain stable during transit and when reconstituted. Unfortunately, to this day, you still haven't answered that question and instead chose to attack me. I backed off for a while, but when the lab test came back bunk what did you do? Instead of looking into things further, you chose to attack the test and those involved in the test. You offered no evidence of any kind(IGF-1, serum GH, lab test, anything that would show otherwise). Anyone can see by your responses, not only did you not give a shit, but it became quite obvious that you knew it was bunk GH from the beginning and this whole ordeal was nothing but a huge scam on your part. Now you are sour grapes because you got caught.

Sure buddy, do you want a cookie?

 

[Carlito]

Not only that but some of the VIPs involved were trashing MESO because of the HGHPro ordeal saying this forum is filled with morons etc. Guys go to AB and check out HGHPro's thread and you will see it, also how they were trashing Jano. I am sure by now MuscleAss told them delete those posts. Bud, you know you can't win a war of words with me just stop the toxicity and don't turn Meso it into what AB is now. People come here for the love of the sport, to learn and or to contribute not to gossip.

 

[muscle96ss]

Not true, you hacked into my account and even uploaded an avatar without my permission then went on to edit my posts. BY garbage I mean the recs and meds you guys sell in your little VIP forum, one of your own told me and I always suspected that but to tell you the truth I don't care what you guys do.
Once the good reviews came in you VIPs didnt like it one bit so you sent your attack dogs that are not even worth mentioning to start bashing me on my own thread, a paid sponsored thread I may add. Do that to Karius and you will see what happens. So for 3 months your cronies were bashing me in my own thread and I completely ignored them. By then I knew I didnt want to renew because I knew what was going on so yes I started hitting back and you never expected how hard you got hit. It was me against 6-7 of you and you guys failed not only at extorting me but at bringing me down that is why in desperation you hacked into my account, uploaded an avatar that mocked me and edited my posts then proceeded to ban me. You guys hired Jano to fabricate a fake test results and also asked two other members to join into the scheme. Funny how only 2 out of dozens complained about the GH and what is even more suspicious is that both used claimed they used 10ius a day for several months when I just sold this particular member only 3 kits but he said he was on his 5th kit.
BTW CBL started here on MEso and still has a good reputation, is not what I say or do, is the product and service provided throughout the years, 300+ private clients remember that amigo.

Bro, I have to ask help just to upload pictures on the net, but I somehow figured out how to hack into your account, lol. That has got be the most paranoid shit I have ever heard. In case you haven't look at other's avatars, one of the mods changed certain peoples avatars to funny avatars a long time ago as a joke. Nobody hacked your account, most likely one of the mods did it as a joke before banning you.

Secondly, I have never seen anybody selling rec drugs in ANY forum on AB and don't believe that would be tolerated. I don't know of any board that allows that shit as it brings unwanted LE attention that is not needed.

Why would anybody hire Jano to make a fake report? What would be the point? The guys that were complaining actually purchased your GH(and paid for the test through donations, which the whole process was overseen by the mods)? Do you think that it benefits them in anyway if it comes back bunk? Why were the mods and admin involved if this was a set-up? Are they against you too; its CBL against the world? You are either delusional and paranoid or you are just trying to make excuses for your scam.

Lastly, yes, you used to have a good reputation and I loved your test suspension; but something has changed lately. Some have suggested you are off your meds or you sold the rights to your name to someone else. I doubt any of these are true, but I don't have an explanation for your actions as of late.

 

[Carlito]

Bro, I have to ask help just to upload pictures on the net, but I somehow figured out how to hack into your account, lol. That has got be the most paranoid shit I have ever heard. In case you haven't look at other's avatars, one of the mods changed certain peoples avatars to funny avatars a long time ago as a joke. Nobody hacked your account, most likely one of the mods did it as a joke before banning you.

Secondly, I have never seen anybody selling rec drugs in ANY forum on AB and don't believe that would be tolerated. I don't know of any board that allows that shit as it brings unwanted LE attention that is not needed.

Why would anybody hire Jano to make a fake report? What would be the point? The guys that were complaining actually purchased your GH(and paid for the test through donations, which the whole process was overseen by the mods)? Do you think that it benefits them in anyway if it comes back bunk? Why were the mods and admin involved if this was a set-up? Are they against you too; its CBL against the world? You are either delusional and paranoid or you are just trying to make excuses for your scam.

Lastly, yes, you used to have a good reputation and I loved your test suspension; but something has changed lately. Some have suggested you are off your meds or you sold the rights to your name to someone else. I doubt any of these are true, but I don't have an explanation for your actions as of late.

When I refer to "you" I mean your VIP buddies, you are a VIP aren't you?

Like i said I don't care what you guys do even though I despise those kind of drugs and to me AAS are not the same.

What meds? I am on TRT and nothing else, I just said I don't do drugs and live a very healthy lifestyle. If you paid attention to my posts then you would know about my daily routine regarding nutrition, fasting, HIIT cardio, etc. Did you catch the part when I said I do fasted cardio in the morning on my airdyne then lift in the afternoon and finish off on the rower?

Lastly, I never sold you anything so I don't know what you are talking about. Do you have a receipt? lol

 

[muscle96ss]

Not only that but some of the VIPs involved were trashing MESO because of the HGHPro ordeal saying this forum is filled with morons etc. Guys go to AB and check out HGHPro's thread and you will see it, also how they were trashing Jano. I am sure by now MuscleAss told them delete those posts. Bud, you know you can't win a war of words with me just stop the toxicity and don't turn Meso it into what AB is now. People come here for the love of the sport, to learn and or to contribute not to gossip.

Paranoia at it's finest. Jano is actually a friend of mine, so I would not trash him. There was 1 person(I think gymfreak) that stated that Jano was not a real lab. I'm sure the posts are still there, AB is quite transparent and much more lenient than most boards. Anybody can go there and read the HGHpro thread there if they choose unaltered. Lastly, you are the one spewing gossip in this thread, everything I have said is factual. And if you want to talk facts, I am still waiting for you to explain how your GH remains stable when its not lypholized? How about you answer that question? I'd be willing to bet you won't.

 

[muscle96ss]

When I refer to "you" I mean your VIP buddies, you are a VIP aren't you?

Like i said I don't care what you guys do even though I despise those kind of drugs and to me AAS are not the same.

What meds? I am on TRT and nothing else, I just said I don't do drugs and live a very healthy lifestyle. If you paid attention to my posts then you would know about my daily routine regarding nutrition, fasting, HIIT cardio, etc. Did you catch the part when I said I do fasted cardio in the morning on my airdyne then lift in the afternoon and finish off on the rower?

Lastly, I never sold you anything so I don't know what you are talking about. Do you have a receipt? lol

Nope no receipt, but I would be willing to bet that I still have the empty bottles. Every bottle of everything I have ever used, I save and store it in a safe location. It started many years ago when I was afraid to throw stuff out in case someone would go through my trash(yes, I was paranoid, lol). But it became a collection where someday I can look back on things.

 

[11Bravo]

I don't think I've ever post anything on here before but I am now. Some of you know me already, I guess I'm one of the VIPs at AB who are involved in this conspiracy against CBL. First, there was no conspiracy to single out CBL. This was the first of many tests to come of the sponsors at AB. CBLs hgh was first bc it drew the most concern at the time, and not just from the VIPs, there were several members and most wanted to stay out of it in the open. Nobody bought and paid for a fake test. The person who handled the donations was a different neutral party than where the sample came from. If you go to AB you will see a thread for sponsor testing of any/all sponsors the members want to see tested. Secondly, there is NO hgh source in the VIP section of AB. There is zero selling of rec drugs in the VIP section. No clue what "meds" are being referred to. So I'm telling you, CBL, that you are lying about that. If a VIP told you that, they are full of shit. I find it highly unlikely for any reason, a VIP make up something like that. I've always spoken very highly of you and your products but I'm going to be honest and call you on something when I see it isn't true.

 

[Carlito]

Nope no receipt, but I would be willing to bet that I still have the empty bottles. Every bottle of everything I have ever used, I save and store it in a safe location. It started many years ago when I was afraid to throw stuff out in case someone would go through my trash(yes, I was paranoid, lol). But it became a collection where someday I can look back on things.

Was it Cblrep or Chavo who sold it to you?

 

[Carlito]

I don't think I've ever post anything on here before but I am now. Some of you know me already, I guess I'm one of the VIPs at AB who are involved in this conspiracy against CBL. First, there was no conspiracy to single out CBL. This was the first of many tests to come of the sponsors at AB. CBLs hgh was first bc it drew the most concern at the time, and not just from the VIPs, there were several members and most wanted to stay out of it in the open. Nobody bought and paid for a fake test. The person who handled the donations was a different neutral party than where the sample came from. If you go to AB you will see a thread for sponsor testing of any/all sponsors the members want to see tested. Secondly, there is NO hgh source in the VIP section of AB. There is zero selling of rec drugs in the VIP section. No clue what "meds" are being referred to. So I'm telling you, CBL, that you are lying about that. If a VIP told you that, they are full of shit. I find it highly unlikely for any reason, a VIP make up something like that. I've always spoken very highly of you and your products but I'm going to be honest and call you on something when I see it isn't true.

You and I go way back but I must say you are just protecting your fella VIPs and is understandable. Like I said I don't care what goes on AnabolicBoard Vip room forum, is not my business but that is what I have been informed by one of yours. Maybe he lied just or maybe you are lying, who knows. I won't give more details otherwise it would give away who it is and you guys will kick him out just like you have kicked out other VIPs who didn't agree with certain things.
Lastly , I live a peaceful and 100% CLEAN life and have no bad intentions, nothing illegal in my possession, I am a law abiding citizen so why don't you guys just let it go and move on?

 

[muscle96ss]

Was it Cblrep or Chavo who sold it to you?

I have no idea, it was many years ago on AB. It was definitely good stuff and I have recommended your suspension to several people over the years including just recently, right before this whole ordeal erupted.

 

[muscle96ss]

You and I go way back but I must say you are just protecting your fella VIPs and is understandable. Like I said I don't care what goes on AnabolicBoard Vip room forum, is not my business but that is what I have been informed by one of yours. Maybe he lied just or maybe you are lying, who knows. I won't give more details otherwise it would give away who it is and you guys will kick him out just like you have kicked out other VIPs who didn't agree with certain things.
Lastly , I live a peaceful and 100% CLEAN life and have no bad intentions, nothing illegal in my possession, I am a law abiding citizen so why don't you guys just let it go and move on?

Actually you are the one that kept this thread going talking shit about AB and making false allegations. I just jumped in to give background info and set the record straight.. We can end this and agree to disagree.

 

[Carlito]

Actually you are the one that kept this thread going talking shit about AB and making false allegations. I just jumped in to give background info and set the record straight.. We can end this and agree to disagree.

I could say some including your perhaps are making false allegations about CBL's HGH too. Again, don't you find it suspicious only 2 out of dozens claimed they were shooting 10ius a day and not getting results when if you read my CBL's thread some respected members claimed they felt it strong at only 2ius? I know is wasn't the conventional way to go about it but it worked, CBL has always been innovative and some just couldn't stomach it. I remember someone even asking me and I wont say who how I did it and if I would hook him up with the supplier so he too could get GH the same way but of course the answer was a big NO. Just yesterday two more guys emailed me telling me the GH was doing what it was supposed to do and they had no issues. Did you or your VIP fiends...I mean friends forget to also tell the members on here that I offered full refunds to those who would show me blood work results with low IGF levels? The offer still stands.

 

[muscle96ss]

I could say some including your perhaps are making false allegations about CBL's HGH too. Again, don't you find it suspicious only 2 out of dozens claimed they were shooting 10ius a day and not getting results when if you read my CBL's thread some respected members claimed they felt it strong at only 2ius? I know is wasn't the conventional way to go about it but it worked, CBL has always been innovative and some just couldn't stomach it. I remember someone even asking me and I wont say who how I did it and if I would hook him up with the supplier so he too could get GH the same way but of course the answer was a big NO. Just yesterday two more guys emailed me telling me the GH was doing what it was supposed to do and they had no issues. Did you fail to tell the members on here that I offer full refunds to those who would show me blood work results with low IGF levels? The offer still stands.

There were more than 2 that complained. Secondly, I am still waiting for you to answer the question about lypholoization. Thirdly, if you believed your GH to be legit, and since you claim to use it; why have you not gotten and bloodwork to prove it is legit; nor have you provided any bloodwork from anybody taking your GH that shows it is legit. Lastly, when someone is accused of something they are innocent of, they will attempt to prove they were wrongly accused. Instead of providing any proof that you GH is legit, you have no desire to prove it and leave the board instead.

One last time, how is non-lypholized GH going to remain stable?? Please answer the question. You can't argue with science.

 

[Carlito]

Actually you are the one that kept this thread going talking shit about AB and making false allegations. I just jumped in to give background info and set the record straight.. We can end this and agree to disagree.

Lastly because I am watching SOA reruns, it must be nice to be able to set the record straight on behalf of AB but who sets the record straight on my behalf when you guys are bashing me every day claiming CBL is been scamming for the last 14 years selling bunk gear. Yes all of the sudden new members were popping up claiming CBL them bunk gear, remember? Why don't you tell the members of Meso that? You see, they only know what you guys are posting here and that is why I am also here to set the record straight and for the members of Meso to see what kind of scum some of the VIPs at AB are. I guess all of those long time customers and I mean guys who have been with CBL since 2004 (some from the forum) including low and top level competitive bodybuilders including IFBB pros and movie stunt men must be really dumb that they kept buying and buying gear without getting any results, yea ok. What's next? CBL's bac water is just tap water, CBL labels are bunk too? Is not of real man to talk trash behind a man who can't defend himself.

 

[Carlito]

There were more than 2 that complained. Secondly, I am still waiting for you to answer the question about lypholoization. Thirdly, if you believed your GH to be legit, and since you claim to use it; why have you not gotten and bloodwork to prove it is legit; nor have you provided any bloodwork from anybody taking your GH that shows it is legit. Lastly, when someone is accused of something they are innocent of, they will attempt to prove they were wrongly accused. Instead of providing any proof that you GH is legit, you have no desire to prove it and leave the board instead.

One last time, how is non-lypholized GH going to remain stable?? Please answer the question. You can't argue with science.

Yes I was excluding Enjoy_Dick and ShillZ, who else?

How do you know any of my guys have not done blood work ? Didn't I just mention I got a few emails from them telling me they got no issues? What? Do i need to post their names too? Maybe they don't want to get involved and as long as they are happy is all it matters to me, they too don't care what your VIP fiends say. In fact, most have told they stopped visiting AB since all this crap started. They are very disappointed at how AB has turned.

I sure missed the good mods such as -MU- and MYosarus. Where are they? Ever since Italiansausage and BabyShit took over the forum went south.

No sir, CBL has been talking about retirement since when? Chavo was going to renew another 3 months but didn't feel it was worth the money.

 

[muscle96ss]

Lastly because I am watching SOA reruns, it must be nice to be able to set the record straight on behalf of AB but who sets the record straight on my behalf when you guys are bashing me every day claiming CBL is been scamming for the last 14 years selling bunk gear. Yes all of the sudden new members were popping up claiming CBL them bunk gear, remember? Why don't you tell the members of Meso that? You see, they only know what you guys are posting here and that is why I am also here to set the record straight and for the members of Meso to see what kind of scum some of the VIPs at AB are. I guess all of those long time customers and I mean guys who have been with CBL since 2004 (some from the forum) including low and top level competitive bodybuilders including IFBB pros and movie stunt men must be really dumb that they kept buying and buying gear without getting any results, yea ok. What's next? CBL's bac water is just tap water, CBL labels are bunk too? Is not of real man to talk trash behind a man who can't defend himself.

I have never made any claims of the such and only have firsthand knowledge of 2 incidents with others; and do not consider that a bad record based on the length of time you were on the board. As I mentioned on AB, all sources are going to have issues at one time for another that are inadvertent. How they handle those issues are what matters. The way you handled the GH matter scared a lot of members and they saw a different side of you that made them question everything. You really can't blame them, but at the same time I would expect you to be upset.

 

[muscle96ss]

Yes I was excluding Enjoy_Dick and ShillZ, who else?

How do you know any of my guys have not done blood work ? Didn't I just mention I got a few emails from them telling me they got no issues? What? Do i need to post their names too? Maybe they don't want to get involved and as long as they are happy is all it matters to me, they too don't care what your VIP fiends say. In fact, most have told they stopped visiting AB since all this crap started. They are very disappointed at how AB has turned.

I sure missed the good mods such as -MU- and MYosarus. Where are they? Ever since Italiansausage and BabyShit took over the forum went south.

No sir, CBL has been talking about retirement since when? I was going to renew another 3 months but then I didn't feel like it was worth my money.

Myo was on the other day; he is around.

You aren't going to answer my question are you?