Masteron as a growth promoter

[Rido]

I wanted to bring this discussion up. I know that even 5 years ago and you searched this topic up, People would always say that
"Masteron is useless over 12% bodyfat"
"Masteron is only cosmetic"

Now it seems that there are more respectable people, John Jewett, Broderick, Chase Irons state Masteron can be used for growth just like any other anabolic.
I am not going to go into detail on the background/opinions of the people who stated this either, but I was wondering what people's thoughts are.


Primary benefits some use it
e2 receptor control
strength gains
progestin receptor control
supposedly has a inhibiting effect to prolactin secretion
Aggression(Good and bad)
Brings down SHBG
considered "safer" than other AAS

The biggest concerns for the AAS are
Size growth(Because it isnt a watery AAS)
Joints
Hair loss
Aggression
anxiety
Harsh on lipids for some.


I am going to use it as my main driver, I was just wondering what other people's thoughts on it now are.

 

[Chuck Spears]

I'm maybe 17% bf and use materon to the keep the water bloat down.
1000 test/400mast and no AI needed.

 

[Zmn71]

Do a true TRT test with masteron as your main driver, Youll end up disappointed. The people you listed all seem to get their information from one another lol.

This is coming from someone who LOVES masteron, but I just don’t want you to spin your wheels.

 

[Rido]

Do a true TRT test with masteron as your main driver, Youll end up disappointed. The people you listed all seem to get their information from one another lol.

This is coming from someone who LOVES masteron, but I just don’t want you to spin your wheels.

I didnt mean to slap it on to just TRT dosing. I am sure if someone was just on 200mg of test a week(Never did an actualy cycle) and slapped on 300mg of mast they would see growth.

Have you tried this? just curious. even then, what was the dosing?

 

[Mac11wildcat]

Plenty of guys growing just fine on drugs people want to believe aren’t good for growth (mast, primo). I prefer some type of nand in an offseason and generally prefer a cocktail of 3 drugs over larger doses of two. I can say with certainty drug choice is holding very, very few people back.

 

[Rido]

Plenty of guys growing just fine on drugs people want to believe aren’t good for growth (mast, primo). I prefer some type of nand in an offseason and generally prefer a cocktail of 3 drugs over larger doses of two. I can say with certainty drug choice is holding very, very few people back.

I do like your approach.

That's interesting to hear about multiple drugs moderate dose vs 1-2 drugs large dose.

So I will just state this from what I see in medicine. They will pick multiple medications that can be tolerated at reasonable levels to prevent toxicity/unwanted side effects. They may not use 1-2 at high or max doses.

 

[Zmn71]

I didnt mean to slap it on to just TRT dosing. I am sure if someone was just on 200mg of test a week(Never did an actualy cycle) and slapped on 300mg of mast they would see growth.

Have you tried this? just curious. even then, what was the dosing?

I’ve done 250 test with upwards of 700 masteron. I never got the sore joints or anything else people complain about. It did do a number on my HDL though.

It’s hard to tell how productive it was, because it’s not something you see weekly changes with. My strength moved up, but at a slower rate than if I were using different compounds… I guess it works but it’s not what I would consider ideal.

 

[Evom1]

My highest weight so far was on test and Mast with 200mg deca for joints. Definitely liked it better than focusing on deca and/or eq. This upcoming offseason I'll be centering around primo or Mast along with test

I definitely follow a bit of what John Jewett says especially because of how in depth he breaks things down and explains it

 

[lukiss96]

That's interesting to hear about multiple drugs moderate dose vs 1-2 drugs large dose.

I guess it's more like what you respond best to and not really 2 drugs are better than one.

There is a point of diminishing returns when it comes to testosterone, but I doubt most of us really need to push it that far.

As far as safety goes you will be hard pressed to find overall better and safer profile than good old testosterone. Primobolan and anavar maybe, but are they really that "safe". Test is best as coach Steve says, but if it's not best for you yeah look for alternatives.

 

[OmL]

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[Rido]

Need to see that full-size avatar image, @Cridi887

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[ItsDaBoii]

Does Masteron really "keep bloat down" and "dry out" a body? Or is this just bro science?

Also... how can Masteron help with aggression and cause hair loss? Its way less androgenic then test. I mean it was made to be used on women...

 

[lukiss96]

Does Masteron really "keep bloat down" and "dry out" a body? Or is this just bro science?

I saw your pic somewhere, you seem to know your shit well.

Ever used winstrol? So mast is like lite version of it. At least that's the way I see it.

 

[Zmn71]

Does Masteron really "keep bloat down" and "dry out" a body? Or is this just bro science?

Also... how can Masteron help with aggression and cause hair loss? Its way less androgenic then test. I mean it was made to be used on women...

Interested in this. Someone tag type2

 

[ItsDaBoii]

I saw your pic somewhere, you seem to know your shit well.

Ever used winstrol? So mast is like lite version of it. At least that's the way I see it.

Thank you man. But regarding masteron and winstrol i dont know shit lol, never used any of them.

 

[Rido]

Does Masteron really "keep bloat down" and "dry out" a body? Or is this just bro science?

Also... how can Masteron help with aggression and cause hair loss? Its way less androgenic then test. I mean it was made to be used on women...

I feel like it does dry me out.

the original studies showed mast would affect e2 receptors on healthy breast tissue. They thought it would apply to e2 and breast cancer cells.

the side effect effects of hair loss and androgenicity weren't meant to be therapeutic effects.


Masteron became a last ditch effort for breast cancer.

that logic is like saying, "Why would chemotherapy for breast cancer cause hair loss if it was for women?"

 

[ItsDaBoii]

Interested in this. Someone tag type2

@Type-IIx help us out here

 

[Chuck Spears]

@Type-IIx help us out here

I dont like him he uses big words I dont understand

 

[hallomonde]

I wanted to bring this discussion up. I know that even 5 years ago and you searched this topic up, People would always say that
"Masteron is useless over 12% bodyfat"
"Masteron is only cosmetic"

I swear, this never made sense to me.

Anyway, due to those guys you said, plenty of people are adding primo or mast to their trt or cruise, so it seems to be working fine.

 

[Rido]

I dont like him he uses big words I dont understand

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