MK-677

[fodsod]

May have missed it but are you taking your full daily dose before sleep, or another time?

I'm not clear what your asking so I'll just generalize. The MK dose of 50mgs was being taken 25mgs am and 25mgs just before bed for 3 weeks. 1 week prior to this last blood test I reduced the MK to a single 25mg dose prior to bed.

GH is currently being run as a single 3iu dose pre-wo with insulin. For my previous test the MK was dosed at 25mgs before bed and the GH was dosed fasted in the morning.

Hopefully this answers your question.

 

[Dw725]

I'm not clear what your asking so I'll just generalize. The MK dose of 50mgs was being taken 25mgs am and 25mgs just before bed for 3 weeks. 1 week prior to this last blood test I reduced the MK to a single 25mg dose prior to bed.

GH is currently being run as a single 3iu dose pre-wo with insulin. For my previous test the MK was dosed at 25mgs before bed and the GH was dosed fasted in the morning.

Hopefully this answers your question.

Sorry I realize now I wasn't very clear, was asking what time of day you were taking MK.

Your answer covered it, I appreciate your thorough explanation.

 

[picholas]

I'm not clear what your asking so I'll just generalize. The MK dose of 50mgs was being taken 25mgs am and 25mgs just before bed for 3 weeks. 1 week prior to this last blood test I reduced the MK to a single 25mg dose prior to bed.

GH is currently being run as a single 3iu dose pre-wo with insulin. For my previous test the MK was dosed at 25mgs before bed and the GH was dosed fasted in the morning.

Hopefully this answers your question.

Maybe I missed it, but did you post the difference between your MK dosed @ 50mg versus 25mg yet?

 

[fodsod]

Maybe I missed it, but did you post the difference between your MK dosed @ 50mg versus 25mg yet?

I have not posted it yet. I’m waiting until it’s been at least 3 weeks to allow any drop to level off.

 

[BigJP]

any of you guys find a remedy for the lethargy? whether it be when to time it or something to go along w it? been using 25mgs at night for 10 days and i feel absolutely exhausted, a similar feeling to being about a week out from a contest, which is insane

 

[Rosconow]

I took my dosage down from 22.5 mg to 15 mg and feel better in general (i have 15 mg hard press pills). Lethargy is ebbing. Still getting numb hands in the morning upon waking, water bloat is down a bit. But my strength on this stuff is going up like crazy. Probably cause of the extra water. Also the pumps I'm getting are kinda anavar ish .

 

[test>tren]

any of you guys find a remedy for the lethargy? whether it be when to time it or something to go along w it? been using 25mgs at night for 10 days and i feel absolutely exhausted, a similar feeling to being about a week out from a contest, which is insane

I'm on 20mg, avoiding sugars and using caffeine helps tremendously. I would also try taking it slightly earlier before bed, say 2-3 hours, to help the gh pulsing coincide with your sleep schedule. (Endogenous release of gh makes you sleepy)

 

[BigJP]

I'm on 20mg, avoiding sugars and using caffeine helps tremendously. I would also try taking it slightly earlier before bed, say 2-3 hours, to help the gh pulsing coincide with your sleep schedule. (Endogenous release of gh makes you sleepy)

it couldnt be anything to do w sugars, im like a robot with my diet i eat the same 7 meals every day at the same time.
caffeine is fine but you can only take so much.
i wonder if taking it in the morning would help me avoid this? anybody?

 

[test>tren]

it couldnt be anything to do w sugars, im like a robot with my diet i eat the same 7 meals every day at the same time.
caffeine is fine but you can only take so much.
i wonder if taking it in the morning would help me avoid this? anybody?

Try it and find out, for me it made me obnoxiously tired throughout the day, but who knows it may be different for you.

 

[Deleted member 59947]

it couldnt be anything to do w sugars, im like a robot with my diet i eat the same 7 meals every day at the same time.
caffeine is fine but you can only take so much.
i wonder if taking it in the morning would help me avoid this? anybody?

How about you just try and let us know

 

[hookairs]

my search skills need some work i apologize in advance if i should have been able to find this on my own, can anyone tell me the appropriate way to consume this stuff if you have it in raw powder form? just weigh out the 25mg and throw it in my glass of water like creatine?

 

[fodsod]

my search skills need some work i apologize in advance if i should have been able to find this on my own, can anyone tell me the appropriate way to consume this stuff if you have it in raw powder form? just weigh out the 25mg and throw it in my glass of water like creatine?

Yep that works if you can measure it correctly. Or you can just throw it in your mouth and wash it down. 25-50mg is not very much powder. I cap mine. Cheap gelatin capsules and a scale is all you need. Weigh out the dose and cap it. No fillers.

You can suspend it in ora-plus or similar also. I hate the liquids so I don't bother.

 

[hookairs]

youre a pimp!! preciate the quick/thorough response big dawg thanks a lot!

 

[picholas]

I have not posted it yet. I’m waiting until it’s been at least 3 weeks to allow any drop to level off.

I think you're getting close to the 3 week mark? Curious to see the difference.

 

[fodsod]

OK guys as promised here my latest IGF numbers. It's been almost 3 weeks since I posted a 433 while at 50mgs daily of MK and 3uis of GH.

My current IGf is at 410 after a reduction to 25mgs ED of MK and maintaining the 3 ius of GH. I've typically seen 20-35 points increase for every 25mgs of MK over the past few times I've tested while using it.

I guess I'll go back up to 50 again and see if it takes me back up to the 433 or better.

 

[picholas]

OK guys as promised here my latest IGF numbers. It's been almost 3 weeks since I posted a 433 while at 50mgs daily of MK and 3uis of GH.

My current IGf is at 410 after a reduction to 25mgs ED of MK and maintaining the 3 ius of GH. I've typically seen 20-35 points increase for every 25mgs of MK over the past few times I've tested while using it.

I guess I'll go back up to 50 again and see if it takes me back up to the 433 or better.

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Thanks for this brother!

 

[picholas]

OK guys as promised here my latest IGF numbers. It's been almost 3 weeks since I posted a 433 while at 50mgs daily of MK and 3uis of GH.

My current IGf is at 410 after a reduction to 25mgs ED of MK and maintaining the 3 ius of GH. I've typically seen 20-35 points increase for every 25mgs of MK over the past few times I've tested while using it.

I guess I'll go back up to 50 again and see if it takes me back up to the 433 or better.

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Would you be willing to go to 30 instead of 50? I heard from others there's no difference in IGF scores after anything higher than that.

 

[fodsod]

Would you be willing to go to 30 instead of 50? I heard from others there's no difference in IGF scores after anything higher than that.

Had you asked right after I posted then I’d probably have considered it but I’ve already been back at 50mgs since the day after that blood work post so the results wouldn’t be reliable imo.

Imo though, I don’t think that just 5mgs more daily would give me another 20+ in IGF and get me back to 430+.

I also cap my own and I’d be the first to tell you that they range from 25-30 mgs depending on how lazy I was when capping them. I don’t use a filler and literally just fill each cap until it’s 25mgs or a little more.

So in theory, I could’ve been at 25-30mgs daily on my last blood work. It’s not super reliable scientific method for sure but as long as I can reproduce the results I’m good with it.

 

[Rosconow]

Fodsod, just wondering what the "z" score is on your bloods?

I've never tested for gh or igf levels. I am very interested though as have been on mk a month and a bit.

 

[fodsod]

Fodsod, just wondering what the "z" score is on your bloods?

I've never tested for gh or igf levels. I am very interested though as have been on mk a month and a bit.

Without a base line IGF score taken prior to the start of MK you'll just be guessing at the range of increase you've experienced from the MK. Although, you can always check the charts and get an idea of about what you should be at naturally and compare that to your tested score.

In a nut shell: Z scores reflect the number of standard deviations a given result is above or below the age-adjusted mean, are reported along with the IGF-1 concentration.

Layman's terms- It's just a way of measuring if your levels are "normal" compared to the average for your age.

Z score is sort of irrelevant when you're dealing with guys running exogenous GH and artificially pushing up IGF numbers. Now when you're off GH and want to see if you've returned to what should be "normal" for your age then it's useful.