My first cycle journal thread

[oldmusclemike]

Try your quad next time. I just sit down on the toilet, go to a spot where I don't see a vein, rub some alcohol on it and pop the needle in. The whole process probably only takes a minute.

That's good! ya know there are the basics to injecting and then there are the personals. I for one have a problem with my left Quad. I hit nerves and I bleed and it ALWAYS hurts. WTF ya know, the right is G2G.

For me wherever I inject it's so quick the whole procedure. I know the areas and I flex to make sure I find the muscle, then relax and stab all the way in and plunge. No aspiration no , nothing just plunge. I also (just for me) plunge quick not very slow. Ya know sometimes I get PIP but mostly not. If I don't get an infection ( I never have) and then it's only PIP which I just get over it.

OP I get injections straight into some of my joints, hip thumb, hand etc.. for my arthritis. It hurts but goes away. Other than an infection there just isn't anything to worry or be scared of, you can't do any damage.

 

[johnnydoe]

I like doing my quads just for the convienience of it being right in front of you. I do hit nerves every once in a while and that shit hurts but I just pull out and move over an inch or so. You might want to try there. Its easy for some people and others their muscle will twitch. Or so I've heard from a few people. Check out a YouTube video and try there. Its a lot easier than trying to pin your ass behind you.

 

[GhostFaced]

rip dude

 

[Jay Sanda]

whatsup guys, came to address a concern and just check in again lol all is going well with injections etc everythings been a much smoother process after the first shot. I'm almost on week 3 and I've noticed I put on some mass, i went from 190 to 198 already. I started at 3000 cals week 1 and adjusted to 34- 3500 week 2. Is this normal did anyone experience a situation like this first cycle?? Maybe the frontload is why this is happening? Should I drop cals a bit or keep this going? I dont seem to have put on much fat, strength has gone up a little on almost all lifts, shoulders look more defined, forearms are more vascular than when I started, chest seems to have put on a little size, recovering quicker etc

 

[Roger rabbit]

whatsup guys, came to address a concern and just check in again lol all is going well with injections etc everythings been a much smoother process after the first shot. I'm almost on week 3 and I've noticed I put on some mass, i went from 190 to 198 already. I started at 3000 cals week 1 and adjusted to 34- 3500 week 2. Is this normal did anyone experience a situation like this first cycle?? Maybe the frontload is why this is happening? Should I drop cals a bit or keep this going? I dont seem to have put on much fat, strength has gone up a little on almost all lifts, shoulders look more defined, forearms are more vascular than when I started, chest seems to have put on a little size, recovering quicker etc

Water weight. This is normal my man.


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[oldmusclemike]

As said ^^^^ water weight. It takes 4,5 weeks to really begin to work. The very first thing that happens s side effects such as water retention, libido and increased appetite.

 

[Jay Sanda]

As said ^^^^ water weight. It takes 4,5 weeks to really begin to work. The very first thing that happens s side effects such as water retention, libido and increased appetite.

Water weight. This is normal my man.

Yeah appetite and libido have gone up, should I up my AI dose from 12.5mg eod to ed to combat the water retention? I woke up at 201.. I really don't like this bloat

 

[oldmusclemike]

Yeah appetite and libido have gone up, should I up my AI dose from 12.5mg eod to ed to combat the water retention? I woke up at 201.. I really don't like this bloat

If I have this correct you have only gained 8 lbs, right? That's not a lot in three week considering 190 to 198. Sounds normal as said. However how does your face look. Is it getting puffy? keep a watch on the weight and how you look. Watch your ankles. Go slow with upping your AI. I would wait a few , 5 days , and see. Then up to an ED dose.
Easy does it.

 

[WannaBeBIG]

Oh man fuck pinning quads. I actually enjoy squatting. Every single time i pin regardless of the steroid i get pip but only in quads . I can pun biceps with test p with less muscle issues than test e shots to the quads.

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[oldmusclemike]

Everyone is different. I don't care for my quads. The left one always hurts and bleeds , even in different locations. It is just a problem, however the right one is G2G. There is a lot of nerves and veins in quads.

It all comes with what we do. But remember if no infection...basically no problem but sometimes PIP.

 

[Captain_Fun_Dicks]

Everyone is different. I don't care for my quads. The left one always hurts and bleeds , even in different locations. It is just a problem, however the right one is G2G. There is a lot of nerves and veins in quads.

It all comes with what we do. But remember if no infection...basically no problem but sometimes PIP.

I've never had any issues pinning test into quads, but holy hell NPP has been brutal. Probably time to sack up and hits VG's, even though that spot freaks me out.

 

[oldmusclemike]

Many of the UGL's short ester compounds have a sting. As in Test Prop. Some do not and the lab I'm using doesn't have a problem like that. I'm not a chemist but such is life.

NPP is Nandrolone with the Phenyl-propionate ester and so that's where you get the sting

As I mentioned, the quads have a lot of veins and nerves so it's not the test or the compound it's what is in quads. Many people, more than not who pin quads like it and don't have the same problem.







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[Jay Sanda]

When will I start to see the big gains come in? Appetite gone up like crazy, i'd wake up out of my sleep real hungry, so i bumped my cals up from 3500 to 3700, now to 4000. Sitting at 200 lbs. But yeah I'm just waiting for these big gains to come in still. Starting hcg 350 iu today as well

 

[oldmusclemike]

When will I start to see the big gains come in? Appetite gone up like crazy, i'd wake up out of my sleep real hungry, so i bumped my cals up from 3500 to 3700, now to 4000. Sitting at 200 lbs. But yeah I'm just waiting for these big gains to come in still. Starting hcg 350 iu today as well

I don't understand what you mean by BIG GAINS to come in. Refresh my memory what day of this cycle is this NOW. What have you noticed. YOur appetite has gone up and libido and energy???

 

[Jay Sanda]

I don't understand what you mean by BIG GAINS to come in. Refresh my memory what day of this cycle is this NOW. What have you noticed. YOur appetite has gone up and libido and energy???

Week 4 starts on monday, appetite has gone up, libido, everything. I still feel a little bloated on 12.5 mg aromasin ed, if I were to up the dosage what would the next dosage be? switch off between 25mg and 12.5 ed?

 

[Roger rabbit]

You are using a "bloat" cycle. Don't keep upping your ai just because of a little water on the cycle.




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[oldmusclemike]

Week 4 starts on monday, appetite has gone up, libido, everything. I still feel a little bloated on 12.5 mg aromasin ed, if I were to up the dosage what would the next dosage be? switch off between 25mg and 12.5 ed?

Just feel or you see it in the mirror and ankles ??

 

[Big_paul]

No aspiration no , nothing just plunge. I also (just for me) plunge quick not very slow. Ya know sometimes I get PIP but mostly not. If I don't get an infection ( I never have) and then it's only PIP which I just get over it.

I'm a hit and run expert. 10-15 seconds tops for a 3ml injection. Very seldom do I get pip.

Aspirating is for guys who enjoy pip. That pin is razor sharp. Everytime you move it, whether you are injecting or aspirating or whatever the fuck you are doing, you are damaging muscle tissue. Hello

 

[oldmusclemike]

I'm a hit and run expert. 10-15 seconds tops for a 3ml injection. Very seldom do I get pip.

Aspirating is for guys who enjoy pip. That pin is razor sharp. Everytime you move it, whether you are injecting or aspirating or whatever the fuck you are doing, you are damaging muscle tissue. Hello

I believe WE are on the same page here ^^^^. I'm quick also. I am always pushing that plunger hard. Get that shit in and pull it out. Sometimes if am patient I will pause before I pull out so it completely empties, BUT, WTF.... if it oozes well I don't care. Did I loose a drop ...??? ...Huh , I don't care. If I bleed a little, or Hey if it quirts out WTF.. I wipe it and move on...ah hahahaaa !!

Just make sure to pin and push while being steady and pull straight out. What else, ya know.

Oh, aspirating is for mainline injections

 

[Big_paul]

Oh, aspirating is for mainline injections

Poor bastards.