My journey from permabulk to get jacked

[laclark89]

Haha true! Thanks man, abs it's sort of a new thing for me, haven't seen or felt them for 13 years and definitely I'm happy with it.

Looks like you could have put on 10+ pounds of muscle on top of loosing all the fat, is that accurate or an illusion?

I’ve heard you can rub preparation h or some crap or hemroid cream on your abdomen and seranwrap it and that will help tighten the skin. Years back my wife had some bad stretch marks almost like deep scars and loose skin after having kids and just after a few years of keeping the area tight and using only coco butter it got 90% better I’d say.

I’ve heard of guys getting the tummy tuck I think that’s a bit feminine for a man to wana do.

For me it’s my love handles that are the last to come off I start losing muscle by the time they go away.

 

[Eddie.]

Looks like you could have put on 10+ pounds of muscle on top of loosing all the fat, is that accurate or an illusion?

Not quite sure i understood what you wrote. You mean i could recomp better and add 10 pounds of muscle while i lost that fat? Or that i actually look like i've put some muscle besides losing the fat?

I’ve heard you can rub preparation h or some crap or hemroid cream on your abdomen and seranwrap it and that will help tighten the skin. Years back my wife had some bad stretch marks almost like deep scars and loose skin after having kids and just after a few years of keeping the area tight and using only coco butter it got 90% better I’d say.

I’ve heard of guys getting the tummy tuck I think that’s a bit feminine for a man to wana do.

For me it’s my love handles that are the last to come off I start losing muscle by the time they go away.

I haven't heard this at all honestly. Age plays a big role on the skin elasticity, i'm sure if i had done it 10 years ago i'd had a chance to get rid of the excess skin. From my short research years ago i came to a conclusion that best thing to get rid of it is to lean out, like real lean below 10%bf and hold there for like 1-2 years without having any weight fluctuations. Somehow body starts to absorb that skin always in conjuction with collagen, stretch mark cremes, antioxidants, Vit E and whatever you can get your hands on.

I'm really not considering doing the tummy tuck. I've heard you need plenty of weeks until you return to gym and your job if you have a physical taxing job and this is not something i could deal with now. Regular liposuction could be done also, with not perfect results but it can improve image a lot and it's way less invasive. Maybe in the future.

 

[laclark89]

Not quite sure i understood what you wrote. You mean i could recomp better and add 10 pounds of muscle while i lost that fat? Or that i actually look like i've put some muscle besides losing the fat?



I haven't heard this at all honestly. Age plays a big role on the skin elasticity, i'm sure if i had done it 10 years ago i'd had a chance to get rid of the excess skin. From my short research years ago i came to a conclusion that best thing to get rid of it is to lean out, like real lean below 10%bf and hold there for like 1-2 years without having any weight fluctuations. Somehow body starts to absorb that skin always in conjuction with collagen, stretch mark cremes, antioxidants, Vit E and whatever you can get your hands on.

I'm really not considering doing the tummy tuck. I've heard you need plenty of weeks until you return to gym and your job if you have a physical taxing job and this is not something i could deal with now. Regular liposuction could be done also, with not perfect results but it can improve image a lot and it's way less invasive. Maybe in the future.

Yea looks like you could have put on muscle in the process.

And for sure age plays a big role.

Yea recovery time from the surgery and other complications, internal bleeding ect, not worth it for me, unless you are really planning on making money with your body or something. The lipo does seem safer.

 

[Eddie.]

Yea looks like you could have put on muscle in the process.

Who knows? Maybe i'm a hyporesponder or i need more gear in general, 325mg test and 150 primo you can't call it a real cycle especially being in a 900cal deficit, more than a baby cycle. Perhaps 500mg test alone would do better.

 

[Eddie.]

A little update. Cruise phase continues, i'm in the fifth week after stopping the cycle and gear has probably metabolized. TBH i'm feeling kinda meh as far as libido goes even with HCG in the mix. Also i was used to training hard and last 1-2 weeks my recovery took a good hitting. I thought higher carbs will compensate the lack of higher gear but that didn't happened. I decided to reduce some volume this week.

Also i've dropped some more weight, i'm 97kg currently (213lb) and it's probably due to some water since i'm in lower test and/or from my metabolism firing up again after reintroducing carbs at 360-380gr per day. Calories still at 2900 and steps around 12K.

The upcoming week my gym will be closed for 10 days due to national holidays. Sucks, but it is what it is. I'll be doing steps, probably have some extra meal out with my gf and in 2 weeks i'll start my minicut before going to bulk. I'm glad weight came down even more since it will make the minicut easier or shorter. I'll do probably 2 weeks to ditch some extra pounds and then start raising calories.

 

[AlexDavis43]

A little update. Cruise phase continues, i'm in the fifth week after stopping the cycle and gear has probably metabolized. TBH i'm feeling kinda meh as far as libido goes even with HCG in the mix. Also i was used to training hard and last 1-2 weeks my recovery took a good hitting. I thought higher carbs will compensate the lack of higher gear but that didn't happened. I decided to reduce some volume this week.

Also i've dropped some more weight, i'm 97kg currently (213lb) and it's probably due to some water since i'm in lower test and/or from my metabolism firing up again after reintroducing carbs at 360-380gr per day. Calories still at 2900 and steps around 12K.

The upcoming week my gym will be closed for 10 days due to national holidays. Sucks, but it is what it is. I'll be doing steps, probably have some extra meal out with my gf and in 2 weeks i'll start my minicut before going to bulk. I'm glad weight came down even more since it will make the minicut easier or shorter. I'll do probably 2 weeks to ditch some extra pounds and then start raising calories.

Looking good man. Nice work.

 

[Eddie.]

Looking good man. Nice work.

Thanks a lot brother!

 

[iris]

Eddie, could I please send you a PM?
There is something I would like to ask (your gf, not you).

 

[Eddie.]

Eddie, could I please send you a PM?
There is something I would like to ask (your gf, not you).

Sent you pm

 

[Eddie.]

08/26/2024 Day one of my off season cycle

Today marks the day of first actual off season ever where i'll intentionally gain weight whereas past years i was just letting loose and ended up being fatter than summer lol. It will be also my first steroid cycle where my goal is to add some muscle since my previous cycle was just to prevent me from transforming into a wellness chick.

Original plan was to do an additional minicut to drop some weight more before starting the off season but i skipped it because weight came off mostly without much effort. I'm guessing from lowering the test.

My body composition despite the new low bodyweight is not at its best, maybe those 9 days without training got me losing some fluids and i just don't look very good. Also last 15 days i was 600kcal in deficit, so after deciding not to go for an aggressive minicut i just dropped calories to my previous spot where i was losing just to drop couple pounds if possible, and it kinda worked.

Today's bodyweight is around 95-95,5 kg or 210lb. My calories for 2 weeks now will be 3000 which is on my maintenance with 12K steps, i want to see first how much weight the extra aas will give me and then increase food accordingly. I will aim for 0,5kg increase a week give or take, definitely not more. At least i hope i won't start gaining crazy fast lmao.

Gearwise i was cruising on 187,5mg test/week and today i'm starting with 350mg Test and 210mg EQ per week. I will pin every other day, today i took my first intramuscular shot ever lol. I plan to rotate in side delts, rear delts, chest and maybe traps if needed with 29G half inch slin pins.

I haven't done any extra bloodwork since the latest is just 2 months ago, i only did some e2 today to see where i am at and if i still need some AI as i go into the cycle, i expect the results in couple hours.

I'm also gonna switch training split and start a PPL instead of upper lower. Currently i'm gonna do a 4day split of Pull-Push-Legs,rest,Pull one week and the next week instead of the second pull i'll have a second leg day. As the time goes by and gear and food increase i'll probably add another session and do 2 pull, 2 legs and 1 push session. Unfortunately the tear i have in my rotator cuff holds me back big time in chest and shoulders training..

So, that's it. Current physique state and BP measurement after morning cardio, breakfast and coffee lol.