It's not that I'm not open to ideas and options but I was ready to catch shit and I've researched but I'm that's why I'm asking because different people say different shit. Websites are bullshit. Especially asking for cc info. And I'm not afraid to pin myself where the hell did I say that? But I was asking because I've seen people say they used a pill form and they're supposedly out there. But before just jumping in I wanted to even see if it were true. Tren and test were just and idea because reviews and people saying it helped cut fat but obviously that's not true. I'm looking to get bigger but not gain fat. I work 12 hr days and train 5 days a week. i was asking about test for when I do cut down to my goal I wanna know what I should do.