No Phat customers..be safe.

This seems to have all started with Banner (hulk body) getting popped.he did start snitching , which mad a few labs go private a bunch just shut it down for a few weeks months .I waited 2 months on some shit that normally takes 2 weeks.I know its not all from him getting PINCHED but it sure didn't help the shit storm
 
I think you are both right.

As far as @Mike Oxbig calling Operation Cyber Juice small potatoes compared to Operation Raw Deal, that's absolutely true in terms of the short-term impact it had on the domestic UGL market.

ORD shut down 3x as many AAS UGLs in a SINGLE WEEK in September 2007 than Operation Cyber Juice shut down in the entire previous YEAR in 2014-2015. OCJ doesn't even come close to ORD by comparison.

OTOH, @korat is correct in pointing out that the international cooperation under the direction of the US DEA is unprecedented in the war on steroids. The announcement of ongoing cooperation with several LE agencies in multiple countries, in addition to the troubling partnership with morality-in-sports guardian WADA/USADA, very likely means that more resources are being earmarked for the war on steroids/doping than ever before. This could mean more and more arrests.

The DEA/Europol has essentially outline their end game is to put a stop to the flow of steroid powder and PEDs from China. It will be interesting to see how much progress they will make on this front.

Even if they succeed, we all know the war on drugs is a failed strategy. If there ever comes a time when there is no more powder from China, then they risk/rewards will rise so that some other country/company/organization will pick up the slack. India? Mexican cartels? The black market will evolve accordingly.

We all know how the story ends...

AAS will always be available to users who want them, have the resources and tolerance for risk.
Admittedly I've largely been out of the loop over the past year or so. Perhaps the issue is worse than I suspected...
 
I thought about something..... Nophat would say that he does all his biz on his phone. My phone won't hardly let me misspell a word. All of his posts are FULL of misspellings... So it's obvious that it's all intentional.
 
Looks like Nophat (aka beeflover) was in with a guy on MC named powderguy. I received a pm from a member on MC yesterday that explained how he was shafted by powderguy and his "hook up for raws".

Beeflover is friends with 2 people on MC, with powderguy being one of them. So putting it all together, it appears that all this is related to Nophat.

Here is a copy of the PM that I received.

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Don't jump to conclusions. Powderguy is a stand up guy. I just talked to him yesterday. He is the one who gave me a heads up to stay away from nophat aka beeflover several weeks ago. The guy shooting his mouth off at musclechemistry (Dhazz) is full of shit, and is believed to be a reverse scammer. Presser (owner of musclechemistry) is aware of the situation and doesn't want the drama on his board. That's probably why he deleted some posts. Because they were false accusations.
 
Don't jump to conclusions. Powderguy is a stand up guy. I just talked to him yesterday. He is the one who gave me a heads up to stay away from nophat aka beeflover several weeks ago. The guy shooting his mouth off at musclechemistry (Dhazz) is full of shit, and is believed to be a reverse scammer. Presser (owner of musclechemistry) is aware of the situation and doesn't want the drama on his board. That's probably why he deleted some posts. Because they were false accusations.
Sorry man but I don't believe it for one second... Too many things line up pointing at beeflover-Nophat.

I was told be Presser to remove all my comments on here about MUSCLE CHEMISTRY..... I told him that I'll post what ever the fuck I want to, WENT THE FUCK I WANT A TO about the coverup on his shitty site.
 
Sorry man but I don't believe it for one second... Too many things line up pointing at beeflover-Nophat.

I was told be Presser to remove all my comments on here about MUSCLE CHEMISTRY..... I told him that I'll post what ever the fuck I want to, WENT THE FUCK I WANT A TO about the coverup on his shitty site.

Well, Presser has removed all of Dhazz' posts as well. I am with you all the way as to nophat/beeflover going down with Max. There is enough LE on these boards as it is, and that is why Presser is affirmatively trying to squash this whole thing.

Max was a 12 year veteran source who never advertised on the boards. He never got popped during those 12 years, but he felt that it was time to get out while the getting was good. Somehow, after Max's short lived retirement, he and nophat/beeflover go into business together and get busted. It was very sloppy on Max's part to take on a reckless guy like nophat/beef as a partner. I heard that there was weed involved in the bust.

I wish Ben would chime in with what he has learned about the situation.
 
Or delete this post as it is...

Ignoring the fact that you've been here long enough to know that threads don't get deleted here, why in the world would you want to delete it? I've been away all day and I'm still trying to get caught up here but this thread - once you get past all the nonsense about porn stars and burritos - is chock full of valuable information that all members should have. Deleting the thread will deprive people of vital information that could affect their personal safety.
 
Presser (owner of musclechemistry) is aware of the situation and doesn't want the drama on his board. That's probably why he deleted some posts. Because they were false accusations.

Who said they were false accusations? Presser? That's why censored boards aren't worth the time it takes to register. Here you have an admin that denies his members a chance to hear ALL the evidence so they can decide the truth for themselves. Instead, he ruled on what the truth is. Then he deleted the evidence, banned those involved, and threatened members not to discuss any of it on Meso. He's interested in HIS financial interests, not his member's personal security.
 
Hey, @jacked44 ...haven't really been able to dig in. Ive been watching you guys here. If there's anything that you guys aren't posting up because its sensitive and want to confirm etc hit me up.
Not everything needs to be out in the open but some things do. The stuff I put up needed to be up(said this several times) to give folks that have dealt with np or were considering it a fair shake at self preservation. To clean house.
I didn't put it out there to say I was the first guy to do so or for recognition. The last think we want is to be recognized.
Back in the mid 2000's on a private rec board a guy I knew turned informant and sent a very close friend $1,600 in a WU transfer and $800 in moneypaks. The guy was a source like i was and we worked side by side at times.
We had heard some talk of a possible arrest of our mutual acquaintance that we had dealt with for several years. My friend had the guys money and was deciding what to do. The guy had posted that he had sent the $$ and was concerned as he hadn't received am email with tracking as he always had in the past.
Then a couple of pm from staff saying that if he had this guys $$ he needed to make good as the buyer is known in the community and has influence and his bad mouthing would hurt the board as well as the biz of my friend. Pressure. My guy sent orders. Some months later I saw a pic of my friends face withdrawing the cash from the 2 moneypaks at an ATM. They were part of his Discovery that was in the Federal Indictment. The packs he sent were also forwarded to the DEA in San Diego. I didn't see or hear from him for 5yrs after that.
 
Ignoring the fact that you've been here long enough to know that threads don't get deleted here, why in the world would you want to delete it? I've been away all day and I'm still trying to get caught up here but this thread - once you get past all the nonsense about porn stars and burritos - is chock full of valuable information that all members should have. Deleting the thread will deprive people of vital information that could affect their personal safety.
I'm aware of the usefulness of the information being presented here. It is merely a suggestion about getting rid of trail of users that have been involved with NP and such. Just that. I guess that if LE was here, they probably have already noted about this and are looking into whoever seems to be involved.
Where is that unspoken rule about threads not being deleted here? I did not know that. As you can imagine I don't keep track of the total thread count every night and compare it to the next day's numbers CBS.
Thanks for the clarification though, I appreciate your input regardless.
And pornstars take some of the big sexual load off our wifes/companions of us trying to fuck them about 15 times a day, work schedule permitting, so they have their fair relevance too.
 
You know what should be obvious to everyone by now is who's absent during all this. A few feeble attempts to defend himself then nothing.

I sincerely hope good standing members take notice of this and at least realize although we laugh and kid around. This shit will get you locked up.

Also remember these new sources don't need a foothold in here. It's for all our protection. Fuck them and where they came from. How do any of us know these just aren't operatives drag netting potential customers and adding them to their damn database. We don't need upstart sources here. Huge risk
 
You know what should be obvious to everyone by now is who's absent during all this. A few feeble attempts to defend himself then nothing.

I sincerely hope good standing members take notice of this and at least realize although we laugh and kid around. This shit will get you locked up.

Also remember these new sources don't need a foothold in here. It's for all our protection. Fuck them and where they came from. How do any of us know these just aren't operatives drag netting potential customers and adding them to their damn database. We don't need upstart sources here. Huge risk
well said
 
This is Merely a eye opener, not for just NP customers, but for all members of the board to let people know that nothing goes unseen and privacy should be a staple of all your board postings. Just cause your faces aren't shown in your avi doesn't mean they can't trace you. Especially for all the new members, or the not so bright members taking pictures and posting dates their packs landed. So threads like this are very important for all members to see. I am not a NP customer and I still follow this thread because there is good information being put out.
 
You know what should be obvious to everyone by now is who's absent during all this. A few feeble attempts to defend himself then nothing.

I sincerely hope good standing members take notice of this and at least realize although we laugh and kid around. This shit will get you locked up.

Also remember these new sources don't need a foothold in here. It's for all our protection. Fuck them and where they came from. How do any of us know these just aren't operatives drag netting potential customers and adding them to their damn database. We don't need upstart sources here. Huge risk
Truth right here. Read and fucking HEED!
 
Another issue that will become common place as the weeks and months roll on is more and more established sources will start taking the money and hitting the road. Another reason to keep all purchases for the foreseeable future small and discreet.

As for me I've been out for a while now and going under the knife for ligament and tendon surgery. I will pop in to read updates on this new LE operation from time to time but other than that; Stay safe guys a couple pounds of muscle isn't worth years of trouble!
 
Another issue that will become common place as the weeks and months roll on is more and more established sources will start taking the money and hitting the road. Another reason to keep all purchases for the foreseeable future small and discreet.

As for me I've been out for a while now and going under the knife for ligament and tendon surgery. I will pop in to read updates on this new LE operation from time to time but other than that; Stay safe guys a couple pounds of muscle isn't worth years of trouble!


Or he went scammer.........
 
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