novice here with an unusual problem looking for help

I was 5'10 grew (6 inches over 8 months)

in physical therapy they said I should have been 6'4

but the neuromuscular scoliosis curved my spine down

combined with ehlers danlos making my back unstable I was 6'2.5 standing ,

which somehow turned out to be short next to the people around me.

I took arimidex to keep my growth plates open
and over the next almost 4 years my bones and posture degraded
till I'm now 5'11.5

how is that so hard to follow that?

I am so tired making posts clarifying the same things over and over again

and having people say I'm changing them because none of you can read.
What do you think is gonna happen when you completely shut off estrogen (adex)? It's a pretty important hormone for men. Do some reading, again you're a idiot.
5'11.5" is dwarfism? I must be a dwarf then at 5'9". Again you're an idiot!
 
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All you want is for someone to create a protocol for you of miracle hormones to make you 6'4" and a big strongman competitor.
Grow up. No one here is gonna or can do that for you.
Take responsibility for yourself and be a man.
I took pity on you with all your lies and bullshit.
But that's what you wanted.
With the time and effort you've put in this post you could have already improved your life. Grow up 5' 11.5" dwarf lol.
 
The only reason you haven't given up on this post is because of your desperate need for the miracle protocol.

Oh, please everyone just stop questioning me and just tell me what doses I need to be a 6'4" strongman!

And make it so I don't have to train or put in the effort please.

But you're a newbie member and you know no one is gonna give you your miracle protocol. Not unless you first give us a bunch of bullshit to make us feel sorry for you first.

Move on 5'11.5" dwarf. Or just start a new post where you keep it simple and honest.
 
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Oh, and now you have scoliosis? What miracle drug do you think we're gonna be able to recommend to correct that while you're growing to 6'4"?

What miracle drug are we gonna be able to recommend to correct all the damage you've done to your joints by taking adex to zero out your estrogen?

What miracle drug can we recommend to get your fat ass off the couch and get a job? Or to push you to be able to train. And what drug can we recommend to so you'll learn proper nutrition to grow?

And we gotta get you all these drugs to do all of this in 10 months time!

This is why you're an idiot!
 
The country where the tallest people on average in the world live is the Netherlands.

The average Dutchman is 6 feet tall.


The United States, where most posters live, is in 37th place (men).


So . . . where are you living that you are, at 6 feet tall, only chest height on the average 17 year old within miles of you? And when did McDonalds care how tall its employees are?
 
@4Drago The OP is a complete and utter tool. Why are you loosing time arguing with him? He doesn't only have IQ issues, he is also total jerk, unnecessarily mean and aggressive. I genuinely tried giving some introductory advice and the tool out of the blue replied with:

I have no patience for your or anyone else's nonsense.

Just ignore, let this topic die off. And let @Millard ban the idiot, as just a small sense of this idiocy will lure in other unsuspecting victims. A 27yo man with willingly crushed estrogen with osteopenia, claiming to be a midget at 180cm, all the while being disrespectful to people trying genuinely to help him.
 
I'm the one that can't read? Where did I say you're afraid of needles? Your story keeps changing and evolving, depending on how much sympathy you need.

Teachers beat your ass. I thought you were getting serious ass whoopings...what a joke.

Why didn't you address my comment about you not being able to get a job at McDonald's. Yet, somehow you're gonna be able to train when you start slamming aas and other hormones?
Or how you want to scam ssi to buy btc? Must be because you're an honest man lol.
first no you didn't that it was as aimed in general, your just the one who says I'm trying to scam people despite never said I want to get more money from ssi or get things without paying, but to be able to use the money I do have.

(they can "review" transactions so even if I figure out how to put 300$ of you own money into bit coin they can just say no).

because 1 taking the aas should making it so I can try training(by helping my joint integrity

and 2 I'm not in a position to get this stuff but I don't have a better option to get out of this situation and I feel like I need to try something.
 
first no you didn't that it was as aimed in general, your just the one who says I'm trying to scam people despite never said I want to get more money from ssi or get things without paying, but to be able to use the money I do have.

(they can "review" transactions so even if I figure out how to put 300$ of you own money into bit coin they can just say no).

because 1 taking the aas should making it so I can try training(by helping my joint integrity

and 2 I'm not in a position to get this stuff but I don't have a better option to get out of this situation and I feel like I need to try something.
Holy crap! Now you start writing like you're dyslexic...wow you're good.

Yes it's called scamming ssi, better yet fraud. Trying to hide money so they don't reduce your benefit. The benefit us hard working Americans get to pay you for being lazy and buying aas. We all get to work and support your crap.
 
What do you think is gonna happen when you completely shut off estrogen (adex)? It's a pretty important hormone for men. Do some reading, again you're a idiot.
5'11.5" is dwarfism? I must be a dwarf then at 5'9". Again you're an idiot!
again said not every one just shorter than more men under 30 than should be statistically possible

it was MA11 that said it was dwarfism

and dafqu1 is the one that said I had klinefelter

I just said if the advice remains the same just tell me

you're the ones putting words in my mouth and then calling me a liar

and unlike Inspired I will link proof
just be honest if u are a fat klinefelter neet. The advice remains the same: u can take steroids to increase androgenic and anabolic developement. Its not magic if u want muscles u still need to train and eat right. Also after puberty increasing androgenic dht will still increase 2nd male sex chars somewhat but its more likely to make u lose your hair blow up your prostate and age rapidly than give u a better jawline or something.

"the advice remains the same" yes that's why I'm here and why I tried to get it without going into all that, but they wouldn't tell me without dragging that out off me and still didn't tell me choosing to prove my point instead.

now will you tell me what a HGH/IGF-1 dose/remain tying to fix this would be?

So wait.
OP is 6 foot which equals dwarfism in his area and that's why he pops adex/asin like smarties so he can grow 4 inches with a shit ton of GH?

what part of neuromuscular scoliosis (curving of the spine so you can't stand up straight) do you not understand

and not to everyone just more men under 30 than should be statistically possible
 
Put your dht cream directly on your man chode 2x daily.

Due to its localized application LH and seven volume will increase 10 fold. As well as gh secretion as long as you get at least 14 hours of sleep for the long term REM benefits to manifest. The procedure was created by Dr Manhattan during the Cold War since soldiers were coming back with testicular frost bite. Research the best known test subject. IIRC he went by the alias Captain America. Best wishes.
 
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YOU abused adex and destroyed your joints and lost hight. Now you want to abuse gear and other hormones. Get a clue while you still have the chance.

Your own words...you gave yourself osteopenia from adex abuse!
 
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Oh, and now you have scoliosis? What miracle drug do you think we're gonna be able to recommend to correct that while you're growing to 6'4"?

What miracle drug are we gonna be able to recommend to correct all the damage you've done to your joints by taking adex to zero out your estrogen?

What miracle drug can we recommend to get your fat ass off the couch and get a job? Or to push you to be able to train. And what drug can we recommend to so you'll learn proper nutrition to grow?

And we gotta get you all these drugs to do all of this in 10 months time!

This is why you're an idiot!
yes, it a long shot. I don't think it will work but I have to try something.

and for what miracle drug oh you know in the axiomatic system that is chemistry the things that repair joins like deca / growth hormone ect

for nutrition and training I said I did a lot more before but got no results

so I am figuring that out on my own and haven't asked you or anyone else here to help with that.

if you're going to make the point about me being impossibly demanding
can you stick to things I actually asked for and not put words in my mouth for one post?
 
@4Drago The OP is a complete and utter tool. Why are you loosing time arguing with him? He doesn't only have IQ issues, he is also total jerk, unnecessarily mean and aggressive. I genuinely tried giving some introductory advice and the tool out of the blue replied with:



Just ignore, let this topic die off. And let @Millard ban the idiot, as just a small sense of this idiocy will lure in other unsuspecting victims. A 27yo man with willingly crushed estrogen with osteopenia, claiming to be a midget at 180cm, all the while being disrespectful to people trying genuinely to help him.
yes after trying for years trying to find anything that can help in my last ditch attempt having people telling me to not use anything and getting into personal matters and insulting me but,

I'm the asshole for yelling at people for insulting me and calling me crazy a liar and an idiot if people are going to be a dick to me I will be more of one back

also, real cute you take my reply of "I don't have patience for your or any one else nonsense" out of context choosing to you deflecting into personal matters that don't matter like age and not putting any relevant info for the thread.
thank you for the reply and for the concern.
I haven't started anything yet.

I know that "bro forums" have poor consistency for information but they have people who have a large amount of experience about things you just can't google, my idea being not to take advice from everyone but to find 1 or 2 really knowledgeable people on the subject.

I am aware of many dangerous side effects are possible but I'm in a bad spot in all areas of life and if all this does is make it so I don't have to try to live a completely unviable highly diminished existence for another 5 decades well that might not be the worst thing in and of itself.

It might also make it even more "unviable", that was the gist of what I was trying to put forth.

How old are you now?
 
Reminds me of an ex girlfriend always bring up old shit.

REMEMBER WHEN YOU SAID XXXXXX

Chick's remember that shit verbatim
 
You're 5 ft 11 inch. Your fucked in the head lmao. Most true bodybuilders are shorter manlets in real life but the height gives them aesthetics. Lmao dude.

Good troll you must live next to a bean stock and have to climb it to get to your club or campus and be chest height to others at 5 11. I bet your name is Jack!
yes, you are right about bodybuilders. it's a good thing I didn't mention bodybuilding or any physical pursuit other than "strong man" a single time in all posts I made on the entire website.

this is what I mean

you will misinterpret my posts to say whatever you want them to.

and then say I'm a liar and changing things when I correct the things you pulled completely out of your ass.

I might as well respond with a key smash of random characters to save time,

as you don't actually read my posts anyway.
 
then why did you bring up bodybuilders when I said nothing about them and only said I wanted to do strong man?
Relative to the person. I relate lifting weight to bodybuilding as I don't compete. Even a strong man can cut and look shredded. Look at Eddie hall when he cut to box. Building muscle, bodybuilding I'm just a gym rat.
 
@4Drago The OP is a complete and utter tool. Why are you loosing time arguing with him? He doesn't only have IQ issues, he is also total jerk, unnecessarily mean and aggressive. I genuinely tried giving some introductory advice and the tool out of the blue replied with:



Just ignore, let this topic die off. And let @Millard ban the idiot, as just a small sense of this idiocy will lure in other unsuspecting victims. A 27yo man with willingly crushed estrogen with osteopenia, claiming to be a midget at 180cm, all the while being disrespectful to people trying genuinely to help him.
also I was only kind and respectful when people gave information actually gave relevant to the thread
I'd go high dose HGH with low-liver toxic steroids like test, npp, primo, mast to have my igf-1 as high as possible for bone growth. Tren and powerful orals will make your igf-1 lower than baseline even on a bunch of HGH.

thank you for the reply. I didn't know that about tren where does npp, dmso and halotestin rank on that?
i 2nd country club hero if you're really going through a delayed 2nd puberty take as many androgenic hormones as u can halotestin is harsh tho and hard to get u could replace it with anavar or could just leave out orals

thank you for the information
 
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