Old school d-bol cycle

Would you guys say dbol is even worth using? Between live toxicity and water retention the muscle gains can't be that profound. Also if it comes on quick you can lose it just as quick. I blast and cruise...... slow and steady wins the race?

In my humble opinion, dbol is abused. The water weight typically comes from larger doses and the toxicity is same. 50-100mg

Dbol was designed to take in lower dosages is why the old school people would use for longer typically like many stated 20-25mg per day.

I know of several members who stay looking shredded as hell and they use dbol all the time. But again, they dose properly and don't go overboard. Unfortunately in today's time everyone feels more is better, when actually less is more.

I enjoy a good dbol once in a while, but.. one thing I think people lose sight on is cholesterol, for me... dbol will spike this total count crazy. One example is I gave blood one time and got the cholesterol total back and it read 285!!!! Took me some strict dieting to get that back down to under 200 and get my hdl and ldl back to normal.


So I would strongly suggest if you run that long dbol cycle to get your blood work done regularly to stay safe[emoji106][emoji106][emoji106]


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I know of several members who stay looking shredded as hell and they use dbol all the time. But again, they dose properly and don't go overboard. Unfortunately in today's time everyone feels more is better, when actually less is more.

If its used to kick start though, say for four weeks, at 30-40mgs/day while waiting for like Test and Deca to kick in, is an AI used consistantly through the DBol use?
 
If its used to kick start though, say for four weeks, at 30-40mgs/day while waiting for like Test and Deca to kick in, is an AI used consistantly through the DBol use?

Npp is better IMO over deca. But that's just me.

Only way to know if u need AI is blood or experience the side effects. I don't use AI OFTEN, elevated estrogen is good to build muscle.


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In my humble opinion, dbol is abused. The water weight typically comes from larger doses and the toxicity is same. 50-100mg

Dbol was designed to take in lower dosages is why the old school people would use for longer typically like many stated 20-25mg per day.

I know of several members who stay looking shredded as hell and they use dbol all the time. But again, they dose properly and don't go overboard. Unfortunately in today's time everyone feels more is better, when actually less is more.

I enjoy a good dbol once in a while, but.. one thing I think people lose sight on is cholesterol, for me... dbol will spike this total count crazy. One example is I gave blood one time and got the cholesterol total back and it read 285!!!! Took me some strict dieting to get that back down to under 200 and get my hdl and ldl back to normal.


So I would strongly suggest if you run that long dbol cycle to get your blood work done regularly to stay safe[emoji106][emoji106][emoji106]


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Much appreciated Mr Rabbit.
 
ric drasin said they used to cycle 20mg dbol for 8 weeks and said he never took more than 20 mgs. Their gains were good and they used to workout their whole body 3 days a week. More drugs isn't always better but liver toxicity is over exaggerated. There is a guy who took 200mg anadrol a day for 4 years straight and he is still alive today.
 
ric drasin said they used to cycle 20mg dbol for 8 weeks and said he never took more than 20 mgs. Their gains were good and they used to workout their whole body 3 days a week. More drugs isn't always better but liver toxicity is over exaggerated. There is a guy who took 200mg anadrol a day for 4 years straight and he is still alive today.
I've seen the video your referring to with drasin a long time ago totally forgot he mentioned that. The liver is very resilient and can heal itself to a point so I can see your point on the exaggerations. If that wasn't the case no body would make to 60+ years old drinking o-plenty but we see it often.
 
Is there any truth to all these old school cycles from the 70's that include dbol at 50mg per day, anywhere from 6 to 16 weeks at a time?
Can it be done sure at what cost. And honestly 50mg of dbol is a lot if it is good shit. If your going to run it long make sure u get bloods half way in see where your liver values at kidney all that cholesterol and bp would also be good one keep eye on rbc . Also listen to your body. Your body will talk to you if your pushing to hard. Ran 50 mg anadrol with 30mg dbol at week 7 my back was hurting hmmmm. Kidneys maybe. Lol. Best bet if you wanna run it longer go lower dose 20 mg 10wks. Or go for 5 weeks 30-40mg take 2 weeks off n hit it again for 5 weeks. Not saying this is the best advice but for what you wanna do that would be my
 
If you are referring to people using dbol for 4 weeks in a cycle they are just using the dbol to kick start the cycle until whatever steroid you are running kicks in...

Ex: test e 500 mg a week... Test e takes about 3-4 weeks to kick in so people will run the dbol for 4 weeks then stop once the test kicks in
I am already on trt so if i decided to do a test c blast for 10-12 weeks would i need to run dbol to kick the test in?
 
I am already on trt so if i decided to do a test c blast for 10-12 weeks would i need to run dbol to kick the test in?

If you are already on trt then no.

If you are planning a blast, just up the dosage.

But dbol doesn't "kick" test in. I might have misunderstood that statement or you worded wrong.


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Yeah dbol is great I love it. But for the effects it has as a bulker, not to 'amplify' the effect of test.
It's a bulker? How so? Any AAS can be used as a bulk or cut. Diet is the determining factor.
He meant as a kick-start not to amplify testosterone... When using an oral or any other compound to compliment a cycle to "frontload" it is called a kick start.
In this case, his idea to use dbol as a kick start is a great idea.
 
It's a bulker? How so? Any AAS can be used as a bulk or cut. Diet is the determining factor.
He meant as a kick-start not to amplify testosterone... When using an oral or any other compound to compliment a cycle to "frontload" it is called a kick start.
In this case, his idea to use dbol as a kick start is a great idea.
Why are you trying to prove me wrong. Dbol is better for bulking due to the water retention.
I never said a dbol kick start was a bad idea.
But the way he worded the question was confusing.
 
Why are you trying to prove me wrong. Dbol is better for bulking due to the water retention.
I never said a dbol kick start was a bad idea.
But the way he worded the question was confusing.

Because the contention of an AAS being a "bulker" or "cutter" is wrong. I asked you a question, your lack of ability to answer it appropriately probably made you feel like I am "proving you wrong." Just because a drug will aromatase doesn't mean that has a negative effect on fat burning. Water retention, which is what you mean by the notion that a drug will aromatase doesn't have a negative effect on fatburning however it may be more visually pleasing this can be negated with an AI.
 
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