One more pharmacomstore log, test P @ 40 mg ED, tren a @ 50 mg ED

[MassiveEating]

How is the every day pinning going? What size pins and which injection sites are you hitting?

I think I'd feel like a voodoo doll after that many pokes! Hope you are hitting it hard and starting to see some changes.

Thanks mate, is the first time I try to cut, to be honest I haven't seen many changes physically, strength has improved a lot though. I might be eating too much, I'll figure it out.

I started doing 23 g but recently got some 25 g and they're much better. For sites I do ventro glute, quads and delts, so every six days pinning the same place is not that bad, it heals by the fourth day average .


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[MassiveEating]

I haven't had enough time to update this properly, despite the comments I might keep uploading pics for anyone that may not be Mr Olympia yet but it's interested to see my log.

It's been 22 days @ 40 mg test P, 50 mg tren a ED. That is 280 mg test and 350 mg tren a week. I haven't had any side by far, don't really feel anything different but I can see that I'm recovering faster from brutal trainings.

Do you guys think should I increase dose? Everyone says to increase until they cannot tolerate sides, but I have no sides. Except for a little bit of dandruff which got sorted out with a shampoo.

As for the diet I've been eating around 250-300 protein, 150-200 carbs, 30-50 fats depending on the day. Doing a refill the days I deadlift.

Still looking not so good. I weigh the same.

What do you think should I do? (Serious)

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[Nat2Syn]

I haven't had enough time to update this properly, despite the comments I might keep uploading pics for anyone that may not be Mr Olympia yet but it's interested to see my log.

It's been 22 days @ 40 mg test P, 50 mg tren a ED. That is 280 mg test and 350 mg tren a week. I haven't had any side by far, don't really feel anything different but I can see that I'm recovering faster from brutal trainings.

Do you guys think should I increase dose? Everyone says to increase until they cannot tolerate sides, but I have no sides. Except for a little bit of dandruff which got sorted out with a shampoo.

As for the diet I've been eating around 250-300 protein, 150-200 carbs, 30-50 fats depending on the day. Doing a refill the days I deadlift.

Still looking not so good. I weigh the same.

What do you think should I do? (Serious)

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No sides at all? What about excessiv sweating while working out? Any strength gains?

I am at day 13 of Tren A 300/wk and strength gains came out of nowhere few days ago, and excessive sweating day 2 in gym.

 

[MassiveEating]

No sides at all? What about excessiv sweating while working out? Any strength gains?

I am at day 13 of Tren A 300/wk and strength gains came out of nowhere few days ago, and excessive sweating day 2 in gym.

Well, sweating as usual, my strength has been high considering I'm not eating too much carbs, e.g. my PR for deadlift was 150kg x 8 while on high carbs + test e, days ago I've got 140kg x 6 I felt I was at my max though, but I don't think I'd be getting those numbers naturally.

Aside from strength and rapid recovery (I've been training heavier taking less rest, less days off, adding some conditioning) no insomnia, over heating, aggressiveness or anything really.

Is that unusual? Everyone saying they get terrible sides.

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[Nat2Syn]

Get your Tren source checked out

 

[MassiveEating]

Yeah dandruff, it appeared one week in and I bought a shampoo for that and now is better, but nothing else, not even acne.

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[MassiveEating]

Get your Tren source checked out

Damn, well I'm using pharmacom stuff. They seem to be reputable D: , it can be the case I'm not prone to sides maybe? Or that I'll get them at high doses? I've seen people claiming to use double this dose or more.

Are you on the same stuff?

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[Nat2Syn]

You should def be feeling something by now at day 22 350/wk tren a. Increase strength gains, body changes, sides, something.

 

[Nela]

Increase the tren dosage can always back down if shizt hits the fan

 

[2Dumb2Plumb]

Bro.... tell you one thing. Ignore the fuck stains... and do you brother. Everyone has a bloated idea in their head that shit can be done naturally. Most guys here started at 17-21 years old. They won't tell you that but that's how it is. Nobody is gifted like a solid rock. They tell you to eat, train and sleep naturally you just get fat...or you get no where. Just cycle though. Don't ever think about blasting and cruising. Definitely not worth it. And lower doses yield better results without sides of being overwhelmed by all the hormones. I'm learning the hard way but hey you don't know til you try.

Seriously good luck bro and don't listen to anyone here. They won't give you advice to benefit you they give you advice to steer you away like their saving you. You mind the decision already... you honored us with a log of your results. No one should judge you.

 

[CherryChillin]

These are pictures of my belly haha

I'll try to take one every week, I've cut the picture because I have tattoos.

Based on that was my estimate of bf ℅

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You're very fat. Don't slash carbs. Calorie and carb cycle.

M. Chest back medium high carbs
Tuesday legs high carbs
Wed rest low carbs
Thursday arms medium carbs
Fri rest low carbs
Sat repeat
Sun

Do light cardio. But don't under eat. You're on gear. Go do mifflin st jeor calorie calculator and use the 2nd highest activity level.

Do cardio 4-5 times a Wk for 30 minutes. Fast walking on 7-9% incline. 2.8-3mph. Burn a few hundred calories. Let the diet control most of the deficit.

 

[CherryChillin]

And for Christ sake I hope you're using a food and bathroom scale

 

[CherryChillin]

You're more like 25-30% most people are fatter than they think. Aim to lose 1% of total body weight per week. You're on tren and test, you should prevent catabolism that way as long as you're ingesting protein every couple hours and make sure to back load carb post workout to restore glycogen and assist fat loss. Front load fats.

 

[CherryChillin]

Thank you for your feedback,

Yes I plan to do tren for 8 weeks and test for 10, so I'll discontinue tren two weeks before the test.

I may increase carbs a little bit if my workouts are lacking intensity and see how it goes. I'm trying to cut, I've never done it though.

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Clearly, lol just busting your chops, but you should cut man, you'll feel way better about yourself I was there before

 

[CherryChillin]

I don't mean to be a dick, but you are wasting money and damaging your hpta with the form you are in. You look like you have been lifting less than a year. There is no magic pill you can take to replace years of training. Go do some reading in training and workout forums here.get some good advice from guys who are knowledgeable and than you may see good results from aas. Don't let your ego get in your way put your time in brother

I agree he needs to learn compound movements with solid motor patterns for optimal skeletal loading, but gear is only going to assist the process.
However, agreeing with what you said, if someone begins lifting with gear off the bat they will relate their identity in the gym to being on steroids. Therefore if they stop cycling, they likely give up in the gym.

 

[CherryChillin]

I haven't had enough time to update this properly, despite the comments I might keep uploading pics for anyone that may not be Mr Olympia yet but it's interested to see my log.

It's been 22 days @ 40 mg test P, 50 mg tren a ED. That is 280 mg test and 350 mg tren a week. I haven't had any side by far, don't really feel anything different but I can see that I'm recovering faster from brutal trainings.

Do you guys think should I increase dose? Everyone says to increase until they cannot tolerate sides, but I have no sides. Except for a little bit of dandruff which got sorted out with a shampoo.

As for the diet I've been eating around 250-300 protein, 150-200 carbs, 30-50 fats depending on the day. Doing a refill the days I deadlift.

Still looking not so good. I weigh the same.

What do you think should I do? (Serious)

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You don't need a higher dose. You need to weigh every fucking morsel of food on a scale and track in my fitness pal. You need to get a small note book and track your daily and weekly weight averages every fucking day.

You need to track every set, reps hit, weight used.
Don't bother if you don't squat ATG with a4 second negative. Throw some 5or 10lb plates under your heels or do it plus with lifting shoes.

Go slow

 

[CherryChillin]

No sides at all? What about excessiv sweating while working out? Any strength gains?

I am at day 13 of Tren A 300/wk and strength gains came out of nowhere few days ago, and excessive sweating day 2 in gym.

Good to hear man, I read you getting ancy waiting for kick in lol. Week 4 on tbol I bumped to 80mg for that last week all of sudden I was like, damn this is light.

Test finally kicked in like week 5 and it's smooth sailing.

 

[CherryChillin]

Well, sweating as usual, my strength has been high considering I'm not eating too much carbs, e.g. my PR for deadlift was 150kg x 8 while on high carbs + test e, days ago I've got 140kg x 6 I felt I was at my max though, but I don't think I'd be getting those numbers naturally.

Aside from strength and rapid recovery (I've been training heavier taking less rest, less days off, adding some conditioning) no insomnia, over heating, aggressiveness or anything really.

Is that unusual? Everyone saying they get terrible sides.

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YOU NEED CARBS FIT IGF PRODUCTION FROM INSULIN POST WORKOUT THAT'S HOW TREN WORKS!
Use 70g dextrose powder post workout with
.25g protein per lb from whey
and eat all your carbs post workout from white rice, sweet potato variations and fast carbs. Tren is an incredible nutrient partitioning agent


They give it to cattle for 6 weeks before slaughter and they turn into escalades

 

[CherryChillin]

Bro.... tell you one thing. Ignore the fuck stains... and do you brother. Everyone has a bloated idea in their head that shit can be done naturally. Most guys here started at 17-21 years old. They won't tell you that but that's how it is. Nobody is gifted like a solid rock. They tell you to eat, train and sleep naturally you just get fat...or you get no where. Just cycle though. Don't ever think about blasting and cruising. Definitely not worth it. And lower doses yield better results without sides of being overwhelmed by all the hormones. I'm learning the hard way but hey you don't know til you try.

Seriously good luck bro and don't listen to anyone here. They won't give you advice to benefit you they give you advice to steer you away like their saving you. You mind the decision already... you honored us with a log of your results. No one should judge you.

They also don't tell you about ask the estrogen your liver cannot detoxify cause we get no zinc cause grass finished meat is non existent.

Keep drinking out of plastic and steaming up that plastic shower curtain with your gas chamber chlorinated water as the steam releases e2 fumes off your shit paint from China and rub yourself dry with a towel washed in e2 laced petroleum based detergent then go have a meal eating off a plate washed in e2 laced detergent and water

 

[MassiveEating]

I will measure more consistently, usually only measure carbs with a scale, measure protein based on the package ( e.g. 1 kg bag of chicken I just divide into four the chicken and assume is 250 g each) and fats estimate based on the nutrition facts, as I'm not adding fats at the moment.

I will have carbs only in breakfast moderate low GI and most of them high GI post workout, forget about refill and stay consistent on the deficit.

Also I didn't do steady cardio as I transport myself everywhere by bicycle so I do spend considerable time everyday on that. I'm not sure whether should I add more on top of that.

Anyway thank you for all of you who take the time to write.

Let's see what happens.

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