One Pharma: Bulk Cyp

[Raider72]

Great avatar Raider ~Ogh

A MS is not the ISSUE HERE fella. What IS AT ISSUE is the purity data Myth posted that you cling to for sales.

So don't quote some garbage about evidence when it's clear as day the purity posted was generated using a MS ALONE. Oh yea it's "evidence" all right, FABRICATED EVIDENCE.

You would be wise to learn a lot more about what your supporting before doing so!

Bc the fact is I've asked for ANY scientific proof the purity crap Angus and Myth have posted several times previously is evidence based, AND it clearly is not, but rather concocted BULLSHIT adjusted to meet the needs of THEIR "MS" customers!!!

so doc, for my slow self & ignorance of most of this stuff. the focus is not so much on the dose but the impurities that are coming with it? so it may be dosed at 70% whatever but has question of content? i hope this isn't to stupid but very educational for me.

 

[One Pharma]

Many of us do not know how a MS works, do you have access to one that can provide all the data you have mentioned?

 

[Dr JIM]

that was what i was wondering, or just ignorant mistake? doesn't change the outcome but certainly the motive

You fellas really need to read my posts MUCH more closely if you believe it only changes the motive. Bc when people alter results those results must NEVER be trusted as being legit!

AND it's CLEAR AS DAY THE PURITY DATA AS POSTED IS BULLSHIT, GOT IT!

 

[Raider72]

You fellas really need to read my posts MUCH more closely if you believe it only changes the motive. Bc when people alter results those results must NEVER be trusted as legit!

lol doc, i have read & reread & will be the first one to admit not comprehending it. just trying to put it together for future refrence.

 

[MassTurk]

What the doc saying is, it's a intentional fabrication of data for their customers who paid to get a legit ms done for concentration and purity.
I really want to hear myth's side on this like everyone else

 

[Dr JIM]

Many of us do not know how a MS works, do you have access to one that can provide all the data you have mentioned?

All the data? What data are you referring to? No, I don't fabricate data using a MS to trick people into believing the purity data I post is from a HPLC. I find it much easier to do the HPLC in real time.

 

[Dr JIM]

lol doc, i have read & reread & will be the first one to admit not comprehending it. just trying to put it together for future refrence.

Just keep following the thread then, bc others will likely do a better job at "explaining it" than I have.

 

[Kinikuman]

You fellas really need to read my posts MUCH more closely if you believe it only changes the motive. Bc when people alter results those results must NEVER be trusted as being legit!

AND it's CLEAR AS DAY THE PURITY DATA AS POSTED IS BULLSHIT, GOT IT!

So, am I to take it that you believe, based upon the evidence, that the data in the graphs is deliberately skewed via testing technique? And that this is being done to falsify the results that the customer gets to show what is desired, not what is present?

Oh, myyyy. (George Takei voice)

 

[johnnyBALLZ]

Dr Jim, you suggesting that myth and angus just fabricate their mass specs out of thin air for the sheer purpose of selling their lab testing?

Everyone concluded the old tests angus was doing were complete bullshit.. I think even Myth admitted it? This was over 6 months ago..

After that Myth said angus was going to switch labs but I never heard if that actually happened.

 

[One Pharma]

All the data? What data are you referring to? No, I don't fabricate data using a MS to trick people into believing the purity data I post is from a HPLC. I find it much easier to do the HPLC in real time.

I am asking if you have access to the correct equipment to perform such testing.

 

[One Pharma]

@Dr JIM , will you post one of your MS analysis so we may see what you are talking about?

 

[CensoredBoardsSuck]

Everyone concluded the old tests angus was doing were complete bullshit.. I think even Myth admitted it? This was over 6 months ago..

After that Myth said angus was going to switch labs but I never heard if that actually happened.

Angus' first mass specs were done using a Q-Tof premier, Waters MS. When he changed labs, I believe he was doing HPLC's rather than mass specs, however, on this new test (and this has Angus written all over it) he's back to doing mass specs using the Waters MS.

 

[flenser]

IT WAS DELIBERATE AND PREMEDITATED DECEPTION FELLAS. LOOKING BACK THIS HAD BEEN USED SEVERAL TIMES BEFORE.

You're taking this too far Jim. It wasn't intentionally deceptive. It's called a mass chromatogram. More than likely the software they used stuck that heading up there.

 

[Dr JIM]

Sorry but that is NOT a TOTAL ION SCAN MS F and that is the only way a MC can be generated. Besides if their "software was stuck" it should have been corrected rather than submitting something this errant.

I am ONLY referring to those graphs which look like the one which has CHROMATOGRAPH above it and there are THREE. The others are digitized MS which Ive no real problem with per say!

 

[flenser]

The ones in the purity calculation?

 

[Dr JIM]

CORRECT! Why else would some unknown purity calculation be used above a graph that looks like an expanded form of an LC? (To make the reader believe those graphs represent something capable of performing such a task such as a LC if "they" use THIS specific calculation)

And is it a pure coincidence displayed immediately above it is another similar graph recording which states that which is CLEARLY a MS is in fact A CHROMATOGRAPH?

What then is this stuff supposed to represent? Here we have T-e that elutes at roughly one and a half minutes? NOT on ANY LC I have EVER SEEN!

Ok fine, but if it's not deceptive someone sure has a LOT of explaining to do!

 

[mercury]

there is everything on the chromatograph but a lot of mess

the peak 413 is a little incorrect, it indicates poor system calibration or problems with the GC/MS

it refers to testosterone cypionate molecular weight which is 412.61
and the formula for test cyp is C27H40O3 but is reported as C27H41O3

on chromatograph

so according to the test it contains one extra hydrogen atom which has molecular weight of 1, this is why the molecular weight is reported as 413

there is one more peak with molecular weight 825, this is the shit inside the powder, it is very big almost as high as testosterone cypionate.

 

[mercury]

so if we just take a look at the chromatograph, the retention time, molecular weight of the other shit it gives rough estimate of purity at 75 % which is close to what they reported 73%

 

[ThE SiCkNeSs]

My brain hurts from reading this

 

[Kinikuman]

My brain hurts from reading this

Your ass may hurt more from not reading it.