Toni72
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Hello community, opti with good reputation, but the people who buy opti and other hgh what is your feeling? Opti equal to hgh pharma? Or meditrope? Or godtropin? Excuse my english, thanks
4iu split 2am 2pm
7weeks on
300mg Test Monday-Sunday
Asin- 12.5mg once a week
Pinned 2iu 8:45am pulled bloods 9:15am
I don’t know if I am not running for long enough or didn’t pull with enough time between pin.
IGF -169
Never tested normal range pre hgh
Here are my bloods though..
Ordered a kit from opti and it took 3 days to arrive from the time funds were sent. Great shipping speed, great communication, and everything looks good with the product itself. First shot was today, and I’m hoping to get bloodwork done later into the run.
Quick T/A with Opti. This will be my first GH run and Opti had no problem answering all my questions. Definitely will be using him again. Question about timing..does anyone ever pin pre or post workout? So say you eat breakfast. 1.5 hrs later you workout, would that be enough time after a meal to take it?
I pin at about 2 am when i get up to piss. Preload syringe before bed then im up at 4am. That 2 hours of sleep between 2 and 4 is the most solid intense dream sleep I love it.2 hours I believe is rule of thumb. It takes some getting use to scheduling when to pin and when to eat. Easiest way I’ve found is to pin before bed and in the middle of the night. I do middle of the night pins so when I wake I can have coffee and breakfast
Is there no detriment to taking HGH then immediately going to sleep..? Wouldn’t it be more beneficial to take it post workout, or throughout the day?I pin at about 2 am when i get up to piss. Preload syringe before bed then im up at 4am. That 2 hours of sleep between 2 and 4 is the most solid intense dream sleep I love it.
I would think more beneficial throughout the day but I'm no expert. I plan to read up more on hgh and it's effects.Is there no detriment to taking HGH then immediately going to sleep..? Wouldn’t it be more beneficial to take it post workout, or throughout the day?
@Tiredandhot their a numerous igf tests on this thread. I did not go through all 100+ pages but did a quick search. Below are some links of other igf test results done my Meso Members.
@AirBoat'n
HGH - Domestic USA
@Caizier
HGH - Domestic USA
HGH - Domestic USA
@Sevro
HGH - Domestic USA
@Fecalhead
HGH - Domestic USA
@Mighty-mouse
HGH - Domestic USA
@Snipe_HNIC that is a low score considering the IUs you are using daily. That does not mean you are not benefiting from the use of Somatropin though.
Unfortunately the conversion of igf is on a case by case basis and the only true way of knowing if is legitimate Somatropin is by HPLC testing. Their are many variables that affect the proper conversion of igf from: alcohol intake, certain AAS, orals, improper liver function, etc etc....
@Snipe_HNIC, did you just recently finish a cycle? I believe you mentioned this is your first run with Somatropin but would you happen to have an IGF baseline? Have you ever gotten a ALT/AST test done to check if their is any liver damage or hepatotoxicity?
We briefly touched this same topic a few months ago with @BrianNOLA70065, @Serono and a few other members. @BrianNOLA70065 tested low as well but was getting all the benefits of Somatropin. He had previous experience with Meditropes and Jintropins so he knew what to expect from the use of Somatropin or in this case my Optis. @Serono uses nothing but pharmaceutical grade Somatropin-Serono Serostim and doesn't test above 200igf no matter the dose yet still gets all the benefits from using it. Below are the links so you read at your leisure.
@BrianNOLA70065 igf test:
HGH - Domestic USA
@BrianNOLA70065 previous experience:
HGH - Domestic USA
@Serono
HGH - Domestic USA
@Snipe_HNIC how many kits did you obtain from me? You have been on for 7 weeks so this is batch #1 that tested at 12.0iu & 12.2iu per vial. If you are truly not satisfied with my Optis I will offer you a refund. If you would like to speak about this in private please send me an email or message.
Meso Members, I will go ahead and ask here. We know that all testing will not be 100% praised or what we as consumers want. In such a case what do you guys thing is appropriate? This batch has been HPLC tested twice and several positive IGF tests have been posted. I will be at a disadvantage if a member buys 1 kit, not happy with his testing results and I offer to HPLC test his kit. What do you think is the proper course in this case?
I have stood and will continue to stand behind my Optis 100%. I will continue to test every new batch I obtain. I can even take it one step further and offer to pay for an additional HPLC test sent in blindly by a long standing or active Meso Member.
I would greatly appreciate your feedback, suggestions? Enjoy the rest of your day.
Is there no detriment to taking HGH then immediately going to sleep..? Wouldn’t it be more beneficial to take it post workout, or throughout the day?
Just curios what were you using on the 16 week cycle?Thank you so much for the response, no baselines tests which i know I should have gotten to compare. ALT/AST tested AST slightly above the normal range. I am on a cruise right now after finishing up a 16 week cycle. Not sure this plays a factor in the IGF results. Will get a serum test and recheck IGF levels in a month.
Test E 300mg/wkJust curios what were you using on the 16 week cycle?
I remember Tren long ago, havin a hitTest E 300mg/wk
mast p 600mg/wk
tren a 75mg EOD 1-8
Anavar 50mg ED weeks 1-6
Sdrol 10mg ED 12-16
Proviron 75mg ED
I remember Tren long ago, havin a hit
On my igf when I was on hgh. Different brand it’s been awhile but 19nors did impact my igf. Again this is my personal experience.
So you were on 7 days straight hgh or 5 on 2off protocol. How long you been on hgh? Just started after the cycle? Just curios because the more data we can spread on 19nor impact on igf the more we all learn
Thanks for the detailed info and testing results of other members in response to my question.@Tiredandhot their a numerous igf tests on this thread. I did not go through all 100+ pages but did a quick search. Below are some links of other igf test results done my Meso Members.
@AirBoat'n
HGH - Domestic USA
@Caizier
HGH - Domestic USA
HGH - Domestic USA
@Sevro
HGH - Domestic USA
@Fecalhead
HGH - Domestic USA
@Mighty-mouse
HGH - Domestic USA
@Snipe_HNIC that is a low score considering the IUs you are using daily. That does not mean you are not benefiting from the use of Somatropin though.
Unfortunately the conversion of igf is on a case by case basis and the only true way of knowing if is legitimate Somatropin is by HPLC testing. Their are many variables that affect the proper conversion of igf from: alcohol intake, certain AAS, orals, improper liver function, etc etc....
@Snipe_HNIC, did you just recently finish a cycle? I believe you mentioned this is your first run with Somatropin but would you happen to have an IGF baseline? Have you ever gotten a ALT/AST test done to check if their is any liver damage or hepatotoxicity?
We briefly touched this same topic a few months ago with @BrianNOLA70065, @Serono and a few other members. @BrianNOLA70065 tested low as well but was getting all the benefits of Somatropin. He had previous experience with Meditropes and Jintropins so he knew what to expect from the use of Somatropin or in this case my Optis. @Serono uses nothing but pharmaceutical grade Somatropin-Serono Serostim and doesn't test above 200igf no matter the dose yet still gets all the benefits from using it. Below are the links so you read at your leisure.
@BrianNOLA70065 igf test:
HGH - Domestic USA
@BrianNOLA70065 previous experience:
HGH - Domestic USA
@Serono
HGH - Domestic USA
@Snipe_HNIC how many kits did you obtain from me? You have been on for 7 weeks so this is batch #1 that tested at 12.0iu & 12.2iu per vial. If you are truly not satisfied with my Optis I will offer you a refund. If you would like to speak about this in private please send me an email or message.
Meso Members, I will go ahead and ask here. We know that all testing will not be 100% praised or what we as consumers want. In such a case what do you guys thing is appropriate? This batch has been HPLC tested twice and several positive IGF tests have been posted. I will be at a disadvantage if a member buys 1 kit, not happy with his testing results and I offer to HPLC test his kit. What do you think is the proper course in this case?
I have stood and will continue to stand behind my Optis 100%. I will continue to test every new batch I obtain. I can even take it one step further and offer to pay for an additional HPLC test sent in blindly by a long standing or active Meso Member.
I would greatly appreciate your feedback, suggestions? Enjoy the rest of your day.
The theory is since HGH is an insulin antagonist you should wait to eat. BUT this is how it works with endogenous HGH (when you fast, insulin is low and HGH pulses. Soon as you eat, hgh shuts off).Question: if I take my dose of gh fasted in the AM, how long should I wait before eating? I’m starving lol.
I didn't realize some members tested low igf1, but still reaped the benefits. I assumed a low igf1 score equated to bad hgh, hgh antibodies, or some other bodily response to it.
I remember Tren long ago, havin a hit
On my igf when I was on hgh. Different brand it’s been awhile but 19nors did impact my igf. Again this is my personal experience.
So you were on 7 days straight hgh or 5 on 2off protocol. How long you been on hgh? Just started after the cycle? Just curios because the more data we can spread on 19nor impact on igf the more we all learn
Is there anyone using optis also using insulin? I just have a question or two I'd like to msg someone about. Thanks.