How do you like the mutant mass? Sorry if you’ve answered this
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Sagnastymuscle
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It’s on par with serious mass the only difference is serious mass has a multivitamin complex and Creatine and mutant mass has bcaas instead of multivitamin and Creatine.
Personally I prefer mutant I just get less bloated from it and digest it much better but the flavors of both are really good . Mutant mixed a lot better aswell in my opinion
AlexDavis43
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Some people get really heated about this topic.
I'm on a low carb diet and still like the effects of pre-workout insulin, so carbs are adjusted to insulin dose on those days.
Sagnastymuscle
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I know everyone is different but do you think I would go hypo on 1 iu preworkout? @AlexDavis43
AlexDavis43
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Not with almost 200 grams of carbs in the tank. With that many carbs you could try 10 IU.
I'd still start low and track blood glucose frequently until you get the hang of it (general advice) because as you said, everyone is different.
Sagnastymuscle
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See I must’ve had a deep misconception that I needed to be in a fasted state 300 bg to use more then 2 iu because the standard drop or average was about 50 points per iu this cleared so much up for me
AlexDavis43
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Missed the sarcasm in your first post. Mea culpa.
Sagnastymuscle
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No I genuinely thought that I needed diabetic blood glucose levels to justify insulin use I was afraid otherwise that if I didn’t my blood sugar would crash below 60 I’ve been misinterpreting a lot confusing long acting use for fast acting
Confirmed. All good here.
readalot
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Thank you for your conscientious reply. I'll be posting results from some projects I am collaborating with other members on. The only new standard here will be a standard the members here embrace and push forward.
I'll continue to stand by by assertion that adding batch testing for sterility and endotoxins (in addition to current testing) will push your GH brand to as good or better than US compounding pharmacies. I look forward to continuing the dialogue. For me personally once I've helped forge a new tier of UGL products I'll be switching over from overpriced, undertested compounded products.
Take care.
Clappincheeks
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how long till you get banned this time
Notcreative69
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Why would he get banned. I thought the beauty of Meso was there are no admins. Therefore no one can get banned ? Or am I incorrect
RandallFlagg
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There is definitely criteria outlined (probably in the new user thread) for getting banned - I assume with some warnings and short term "cool down" bans depending on the violation.
I can't speak to the motivation or wisdom behind Readalots 2 prior bans but I am confident they were not for commercial gain or to placate a source.
The beauty of Meso is most posts and threads are unaltered by mods.
The mob is allowed to put sources through a vetting process (daily if needed). Only the cream of the crop rise...and yeah, although one source has become gigantic, even they have been motivated to change some of their business practices for the better of the end user.
I don’t know if this is the appropriate place to post this. Currently running 750mg test E, 450primo E, 375eq weekly, 6iu of gh. All from Opti. 12.5mg of aromasin 2x per week not from Opti. Pinning Monday Wednesday Friday. Bloods drawn Thursday morning. Not trying to discredit this source just posting my experience as I was very surprised at the results. I’m 8 weeks into this cycle.
My E2 did go down without increasing my AI so I have to believe I’m getting some effect from the EQ and primo in lowering estrogen. Just the total test number is horribly low. I did have some other concerns in my blood work. My hdl tanked compared to previous bloods drawn in August and that has never gone below 30 for me even after contest preps using orals.
Possibly I have some kind of metabolic issue causing a poor response to the test as I know this source has a lot of positive janoshik tests and I have made good progress using the GH. This is my first time using Opti AAS.
Prior to Opti I was using Goodlyfe and I had great numbers on 150mg of test a week but fast forward a year using the same gear i drew very poor numbers. So again something may be wrong with me I’m trying to dive deeper into getting my labs sorted out.
For reference I’m early 30s, legitimate 12% bf, 275lbs, 6’2. My diet is very clean and consistent so I was very surprised to see how poorly my lipid panel came back.
My E2 did go down without increasing my AI so I have to believe I’m getting some effect from the EQ and primo in lowering estrogen. Just the total test number is horribly low. I did have some other concerns in my blood work. My hdl tanked compared to previous bloods drawn in August and that has never gone below 30 for me even after contest preps using orals.
Possibly I have some kind of metabolic issue causing a poor response to the test as I know this source has a lot of positive janoshik tests and I have made good progress using the GH. This is my first time using Opti AAS.
Prior to Opti I was using Goodlyfe and I had great numbers on 150mg of test a week but fast forward a year using the same gear i drew very poor numbers. So again something may be wrong with me I’m trying to dive deeper into getting my labs sorted out.
For reference I’m early 30s, legitimate 12% bf, 275lbs, 6’2. My diet is very clean and consistent so I was very surprised to see how poorly my lipid panel came back.
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carbon adams
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how would batch testing of sterility and endotoxin make ugl as good or better then US compounding pharmacies.
1. None of these tests would be certified by the FDA. This would still all be UGL based standards at the end of the day.
2. batch testing of sterility and endotoxins mean nothing if you don’t send in the exact vial you’re injecting for the same exact type of tests.
Which would lead to the problem of :
Would we next be pushing sources for full reimbursement on endotoxin and sterility testing ?
I don’t think many members will be willing to do those tests without full reimbursements, but maybe I’m wrong.
I don’t really agree with your project pushing UGL standards to anything more than it already is now, but that is just my opinion.
Glad to see you are back and working on something you believe in, that is good motivation to see.
I’ve been having the same issue. Lower total than I pull on TRT doses while using 500+ mg
It might have something to do with it mostly being free T?
So I have not gotten my free test results back from my most recent labs however when I started having the poor results with the previous gear I was using my free T also tanked.
I’ll attach the trend of my free T going back to August 2023. Goodlyfe 150mg/week great total and free numbers. Fast forward to this June/August both bloodwork we’re using Goodlyfe and my free T was so low it didn’t even flag high on my bloodwork. So my expectation is that my free T is currently in the toilet also.
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WFB Strongest
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I’m running 200mgs a week right now TRT and am experiencing lower bloods as well. I was going to try again in about 3 weeks and see if I still am low.
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