Organ growth on 3 HGH units a day?

[smartgear]

Organ enlargement is the only side effects I'm worried about. All other side effects don't mean anything to me.

I'm starting a dose of 3 units a day, the goal is to have a HGH level that is 10 ng/mL or slightly higher. Anything at the upper limit of the reference range or slightly above the reference is welcomed.

In short, I want to know if 3 units a day can cause organ enlargement? I'm planning to use that dose for 12 months. If things don't go according to plan, the supplementation will be extended by another 1 year, but it will NOT surpass 2 years in total.

Is 3 units a day for 1 or 2 years too much, could it cause organ enlargement?

 

[lilhawk]

No

 

[smartgear]

No

Are you sure? How do you know? Is there a specific dose or level of HGH or IGF-1 that must first be exceeded in order for abnormal growth to occur?

 

[BigDeee]

I mean....which organ are we talking about enlarging? Asking for a friend.

 

[smartgear]

I mean....which organ are we talking about enlarging? Asking for a friend.

Just organ enlargement like heart or liver, for example.

 

[Country Club Hero]

I’ve used predominantly generic GH about 8-9 months per year for almost 9 years now. Started in mid 30s.

My feet have grown a full size during this time. Almost 1.5 units. Probably soon. I also believe my prostate has grown a little but have no definitive proof.

I generally run 3-4iu per day first thing AM and stay fasted usually 8 or so hours before and after my GH injection. I’ve never used more than 4iu daily for very long if ever. 3-4iu is the sweet spot for me to stay lean, vascular and maintain muscle mass without hardly even training.

I’ve spent a lot of the last few years injured so I’ve gone several weeks of no training several times per year. Body doesn’t really change unless I eat total garbage routinely.

 

[smartgear]

I’ve used predominantly generic GH about 8-9 months per year for almost 9 years now. Started in mid 30s.

My feet have grown a full size during this time. Almost 1.5 units. Probably soon. I also believe my prostate has grown a little but have no definitive proof.

I generally run 3-4iu per day first thing AM and stay fasted usually 8 or so hours before and after my GH injection. I’ve never used more than 4iu daily for very long if ever. 3-4iu is the sweet spot for me to stay lean, vascular and maintain muscle mass without hardly even training.

I’ve spent a lot of the last few years injured so I’ve gone several weeks of no training several times per year. Body doesn’t really change unless I eat total garbage routinely.

The slight prostate enlargement could be due to aging, not the HGH.

 

[Sustanation79]

Organ enlargement is the only side effects I'm worried about. All other side effects don't mean anything to me.

I'm starting a dose of 3 units a day, the goal is to have a HGH level that is 10 ng/mL or slightly higher. Anything at the upper limit of the reference range or slightly above the reference is welcomed.

In short, I want to know if 3 units a day can cause organ enlargement? I'm planning to use that dose for 12 months. If things don't go according to plan, the supplementation will be extended by another 1 year, but it will NOT surpass 2 years in total.

Is 3 units a day for 1 or 2 years too much, could it cause organ enlargement?

Why not start at 1.5iu and go from there if you’re worried.

 

[laclark89]

I’ve used predominantly generic GH about 8-9 months per year for almost 9 years now. Started in mid 30s.

My feet have grown a full size during this time. Almost 1.5 units. Probably soon. I also believe my prostate has grown a little but have no definitive proof.

I generally run 3-4iu per day first thing AM and stay fasted usually 8 or so hours before and after my GH injection. I’ve never used more than 4iu daily for very long if ever. 3-4iu is the sweet spot for me to stay lean, vascular and maintain muscle mass without hardly even training.

I’ve spent a lot of the last few years injured so I’ve gone several weeks of no training several times per year. Body doesn’t really change unless I eat total garbage routinely.

I'm in my mid 30s, my shoe size went up 1 full size in just about 1 year running 3-4iu.

I was tripping, though it was edema or water retention but that's not possible because I'm alot leaner and am retaining less water than I usto the few years prior.

 

[AlexDavis43]

Yeah, shoe size increased and wedding band doesn't fit anymore. I'd have to discontinue GH for a few months to convince myself it wasn't edema, but not planning that any time soon.

PSA still low. Nails and facial hair grow faster.

Keeping up the cardio and not worrying about much else. Regular lab work looks good.

You could get some imaging studies to check organ growth. Peace of mind and all that.

 

[smartgear]

I'm in my mid 30s, my shoe size went up 1 full size in just about 1 year running 3-4iu.

I was tripping, though it was edema or water retention but that's not possible because I'm alot leaner and am retaining less water than I usto the few years prior.

Does the whole body grows or just specific body parts, such as feet and hands? If it's only specific body parts, doesn't that cause asymmetry and lack of proportionality?

If body growth occurs in my case, will the forearms and the long bones of the legs grow, too, or will it be only the hands and feet?

 

[smartgear]

Why not start at 1.5iu and go from there if you’re worried.

I want my HGH level to be at the upper limit of the reference range or just slightly above that. Is 1.5IUs a day enough for this? I heard I need 3 or 4 IUs a day to achieve such level.

 

[Fattyone]

I want my HGH level to be at the upper limit of the reference range or just slightly above that. Is 1.5IUs a day enough for this? I heard I need 3 or 4 IUs a day to achieve such level.

Nobody can answer this. Pin 1.5iu and get bloods.

 

[Fattyone]

Also 99.9% positive you’re a troll.

 

[Country Club Hero]

Yeah, shoe size increased and wedding band doesn't fit anymore. I'd have to discontinue GH for a few months to convince myself it wasn't edema, but not planning that any time soon.

PSA still low. Nails and facial hair grow faster.

Keeping up the cardio and not worrying about much else. Regular lab work looks good.

You could get some imaging studies to check organ growth. Peace of mind and all that.

Yeah my PSA is great but I have prostate issues using certain compounds. Just a little of my sweet nectar Masteron makes my prostate swell. Up several times a night pissing. Tiny loads, etc…

 

[amazonas]

Don't tell him there is no organ growth at low doses, HGH grows EVERY single cell in the body and organs too.

High IGF-1 levels stimulate excessive growth of skin, connective tissue, cartilage, bone, organs, and other tissues in the body (an exception is the bones of the arms and legs, which do not continue to lengthen once puberty is complete and adult height is reached).

If you are worried about this, then don't take HGH...

 

[smartgear]

Nobody can answer this. Pin 1.5iu and get bloods.

Results from a dose are not significantly different among individuals. 2 different people may not get the same HGH level from 1.5 IUs, but the level will still be similar, with small variations.

You made it looks like someone can get 100 ng/mL from 1.5 IUs a say, while someone else can get 0.2 ng/dL from the same dose. This is not how it works.

Whatever results you get from 1.5 IUs, I will get similar results.

 

[smartgear]

Don't tell him there is no organ growth at low doses, HGH grows EVERY single cell in the body and organs too.

High IGF-1 levels stimulate excessive growth of skin, connective tissue, cartilage, bone, organs, and other tissues in the body (an exception is the bones of the arms and legs, which do not continue to lengthen once puberty is complete and adult height is reached).

If you are worried about this, then don't take HGH...

I know HGH and IGF-1 cause growth to any tissue, but after what level does the growth begin? Excessive growth doesn't happen from any HGH and IGF-1 level, if that was the case, then every person in the world would have had organ growth because we all have HGH and IGF-1 present in our bodies.

If I keep my HGH level at upper limit of the reference range or just slightly above it, for example, at 11 or 12 ng/mL, will this be a problem?

 

[songsofpyramids]

You made it looks like someone can get 100 ng/mL from 1.5 IUs a say, while someone else can get 0.2 ng/dL from the same dose. This is not how it works.

Yes it is. Some people are totally non responders while other are hyper responders. Some people need 3iu to get 450 ng/ml where it takes others 6+iu to get the same result.

 

[clearheaded]

I know HGH and IGF-1 cause growth to any tissue, but after what level does the growth begin? Excessive growth doesn't happen from any HGH and IGF-1 level, if that was the case, then every person in the world would have had organ growth because we all have HGH and IGF-1 present in our bodies.

If I keep my HGH level at upper limit of the reference range or just slightly above it, for example, at 11 or 12 ng/mL, will this be a problem?

uh?

every person and every tissue react differently, any even normal/natural amount makes ur organs and ears and nose grow.

fat people often have nice skin and large organs that is to say they often have more igf. that same person skinny/lower glucose may have alot less.. taking gh in a sense makes u a fat person, hold on to water, higher glucose organ and head growth.. (ever see 600lb people? they have large heads and its not all fat)

any amount will cause more growth, thats the point of taking it..

also I don't know if there is proper reference ranges for gh.. its one of those that can go up and down pretty fast and u miss ur peak no mater how fast u get to the lab. but at any rate if go to a specialty lab they may have one. someone who knows more can chime in but essentially mostly just under pituitary tutor agro levels is all they use it for from my limited understanding.

if any concern at all id say dont do it as not like night and day difference going on it. forsure has benefits but often slow (and even slower at just above replacement dosing)